So URF is Back AND.......

EvilScotsman1974··102 votes·7,774 views

People are still complaining

Like seriously you guys wanted it back its back, be happy.

Yeah i know they balanced it slightly but that way sona and ali and hec are not perma pick/bans and they wont have to disable them.

I guess that even though Rito brought it back because people were complaining about wanting it back it still wasnt good enough.

Get over it people and be happy that the game mode you have cried about wanting back for almost a year is back so enjoy it and stop complaining.

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Sukishoo36 votes

They won't be happy till

  1. It's Permanent
  2. They get all the permabans they want
  3. They get all the balance changes they want

So I still wish Riot would have released NURF just to say FUCK YOU.

Maganar12 votes

"Not Ultra Rapid Fire:

"Cooldowns increased by 200%, mana regen reduced by 50%, summoners spells disabled, death timers TRIPLED.... and +5000% damage to dinosaurs!"

I would have laughed myself sick if they'd done this (though I would mainly be laughing at the agonized wailing and rage of those that I had been forced to see spamming the comments to "Bring URF back!!!!!" every time I scrolled down for a year now, revenge is sweet).

Funny thing is, that actually sounds waaaay more interesting than all these other featured game modes. More strategic, more tedious... yes, perhaps even more boring, I'll admit that... but interesting. Everyone would fear wasting ultimates, worry about all-in engages with no flash to get out, play safe to avoid dying. It would become all about strategic map control and gaining objectives like dragon and baron to shove down turrets from relative safety, with last-ditch all-ins from losing teams sometimes pulling off miracle comebacks by acing enemy teams that couldn't flash away and then had their bases wrecked during the increased death timers.

It would be interesting for a bit, but if played for more than, say, I don't know, a week, would become more stressful than fun as the initial interest wore off. Gosh, an interesting idea that would allow people to play the game in an entirely new way to maintain interest in League among it's longstanding fanbase but that no one would really want to see in the long-term... that almost sounds like what a featured game mode is for! (Not that I'm naive enough to think this would ever happen, not that I'm even so much as suggesting this, and not that anyone other >1% of players would actually appreciate it, but just pointing out the irony.)

Honestly, I wouldn't really have even enjoyed NURF myself as I described it, but if it had been released sometime before I'd become completely blasé about featured game modes entirely I might have tried it. By now, though, it'd take something REALLY intriguing to me or sounding particularly fun (I did not enjoy the original URF, and don't feel compelled to even try the "balanced" one) to move me from my disinterest to actually try a new featured game mode (Poro King accomplished that actually, and I did like it, if you want an example of something I would consider a success, because I'm not just a killjoy lol).

Sypher The Poro7 votes

{quoted}"Not Ultra Rapid Fire:

I just want to point something out: If NURF ever turned out to be a real thing, four champs would dominate easily: Yasuo Katarina Garen Riven

Yasuo: His Q is not affected by CD, but attack speed. His E has a cooldown of 0.5-0.1 depending on level, late game there would be almost no difference even if doubled. Ult cooldown is rather short, especially at level 3. Manaless.

Katarina: Base cooldowns are rather low. Her E would become a lot more risky. With Q and E maxed, her passive would still reset the CD completely. Again, even doubled her ult cooldown isn't very long plus with her passive using it to secure a kill is easily worth it. Manaless.

Garen: Tank. With less poke being thrown at him, his passive would become more effective. Base cooldowns are low, except for ult. Manaless.

Riven: Again, low base cooldowns. Low cooldowns on hard CC. Extremely high scaling, and ult is also on a short cooldown late game. Manaless.

While in normal URF there is a "Special" pool that is either banned or played, even underplayed champions like Urgot are tons of fun to play because everything becomes stupidly goofy. In "NURF", there would be an even smaller pool that would be played. While a game like this does sound interesting, it would quickly become boring with pretty much every game having the exact same champions.

Maganar5 votes

This is part of the reason manaless champions drive me nuts lol...

You're entirely correct, they'd end up being permabanned and this is exactly why I was not seriously recommending this mode and why I only brought up "that it sounded like what featured game modes was for" in order to show the irony. Just figured that since someone brought up the pun "NURF" I wanted to throw the thought experiment out there, and lol did you expand upon my experiment! xD

BaronHorst2 votes

There is another class of champ that would become totally terrible in NURF too. Those with DoT will tick just as fast, and channels will be hard to break. Get knocked back, and it takes forever to walk away from danger.

Teemo : since autos apply poison, it will keep ticking just as fast, regardless of AS. He only has to attack often enough to keep it applied. Another reason to hate him even more.

Nunu : try getting out of that ult with -200% movement. Does anyone have hard CC to interrupt? Not for 17 more secs....

Fiddlesticks : if you don't have flash, just forget about trying to escape the ult. say goodbye to all your HP. And it will take so long to walk away you can't escape drain either

Blitzcrank Thresh : get pulled under the tower, die before you can get out...

TonyTonyMordecai4 votes

I would have had a blast had they released NURF, I was honestly looking forward to a really stupid game mode XD

But when they announced URF's return, I was completely blown away. It seemed so amazing, and such an improvement from the original URF, that now I think that at this point (if they wanted to) they could keep it as a game mode forever.

But I have to agree with most people... It wouldn't be so much fun if it was permanent. The reason these silly game modes like OFA and Hexa are fun, are because they come around at certain times, and it's a good break from the norm of Summoner's Rift. Plus URF is just ridiculous and everyone is laughing and having a good time. (except for some people who just want to win... Seriously, it's URF. Chill out)

dnsup2 votes

You sound REALLY toxic. No wonder you don't like URF.

Jingerbeardman2 votes

{quoted}

They won't be happy till

  1. It's Permanent
  2. They get all the permabans they want
  3. They get all the balance changes they want

So I still wish Riot would have released NURF just to say FUCK YOU.

right there with you on nerf.

OneMoreDaySK23 votes

The argument is moot unless it's the same exact people that were clamoring for it that are now also wanting it to go away. Otherwise there's always room for improvements.

One suggestion I have is to have the game mode peek into your URF match history and prevent you from picking the last 10 or so champs you've played. That'll force people to play their non-standard champs and make matches more interesting.

lightdragoon885 votes

{quoted}

The argument is moot unless it's the same exact people that were clamoring for it that are now also wanting it to go away.

Well said

Maganar3 votes

The catch is, I think the majority of us are highly suspicious that those are the "same exact people," and I think that's who the appeal is being made to here, since they would likely come to the boards and check out topics commenting on reactions to changes about nerf, and it is implied that's what will be referred to in the title to this thread.

If it is indeed other people entirely, as you imply, then they should be quiet even MORE. I mean, they didn't even care enough to ask for it back, yet they care enough to whine that it didn't come back the "right way!?!?!" That'd be crazy!

So either way, even though you are making a good point that we have to be careful where fingers are being pointed, I think the OP is still getting to the heart of matter. Whether it is the same people or not, they have no need to be stirring up yet more of a ruckus either because they were beggars and beggars can't be choosers or they were disinterested in URF returning and don't really have a reason to be complaining on how it returned.

EvilScotsman19742 votes

nicely put.

Sicksadpanda16 votes

I didn't care about URF too much. But it was getting annoying about how people wanted URF back in the past year. And now people are complaining about, pretty much everything in URF.

This is exactly why Riot doesn't want URF to be permanent, because there will be more changes towards champions or the gameplay in the future. And those changes will become true for URF as well. In other words, it'll probably create more complaints about their "fun-mode" game being "ruined".

In short, balancing or changing the normal game will always ruin URF for many people, and they will flood the forums with complaints.

So as OP says, just enjoy it and stop complaining.

Ariel the Cruel5 votes

I'm having the time of my life with AP Shaco.

Box and vanish every 2 seconds. XD

EDIT: I don't care if he's not strong. It's still fun.

EvilScotsman19743 votes

You are exactly right.

the forums are already flooding with complaints about the balances and op/broken this and that.

I am gonna play a few games a day of it but wont miss it when it is gone for another year.

dnsup2 votes

The people complaining aren't the ones playing. How do I know?

Because they're complaining on the boards instead of playing. The people playing like the mode.

Fierce Deity15 votes

They didn't reduce Volibears passive cd along with Aatrox, Anivia, and Zac. Its cruel.

1999 01 1711 votes

my complaint about URF is that it isn't fun. woo everyone just died in .2 seconds. when is ascension coming back again?

Ryu the first5 votes

whoa whoa whoa.....URF may not be as good as I remember, but Ascension was shit...

ValiantDogFood1 votes

stfu ungrateful bitch

AbsoluteSadman10 votes

Its lost the magic for alot of people, im getting ALOT of tryhards. "OMFG VEIGAR U DUM FEEDER YOU FED ZED GG." "OMG YI IS SO OP WHY DIDNT YOU BAN HIM STUPID FUCKING RETARDS."

IcyPepper7 votes

"OMG YI IS SO OP WHY DIDNT YOU BAN HIM STUPID FUCKING RETARDS."

On URF, everyone is OP :3

AbsoluteSadman3 votes

Tell that to evelynn, shes literally the same.

IcyPepper4 votes

*On URF, almost everyone is OP

NewOnyx1 votes

still no love for Singed item 3070

IcyPepper1 votes

Just get the entire team to chase you :3

Turn the entire rift into a gas field.

KarKzz1 votes

More like "Can't hit anything, get instagib"

Thefriendlyorc2 votes

Yeah Singed is my favorite and in Urf it just makes his already difficult problems even worse.

dnsup2 votes

Eve is definitely OP in URF. Played with 3 really great ones yesterday, won twice lost once.

Ironclad Dragon7 votes

I never wanted it back. The amount of people who whined about it drove me to loath it.

Yuudachi5 votes

First time playing urf...

champions with blinks are extremely unfair

That's right i'm talking about you Zed and Leblanc They are practically untouchable especially zed.

Zrima3 votes

I played against a Diamond Zed on first URF game. I chose Sion. I don't how he did that, but on top of free-flashing every 2 sec or so, he was able to create a shadow on my position, spin 2-3 times while throwing shurikens everywhere. He would eat my lifebar in 2 secs flat. And I was building tanky items.

But in a way, getting one shotted was not that much of a problem (It was kinda not fun), but the main problem was, he was pushing all the time, always changing lane and pushing. He was not playing for fun, he wanted to win, at all cost.

Thefriendlyorc2 votes

Yeah this happens with every zed in urf. It goes from it being a fun mode to a try hard contest with who can pick the blink master. Kat is also a problem. I fought a zed as teemo with an irelia alongside me 2v1, zed was able to keep us pushed under our tower with his unlimited poke. That said, felt just like a normal.

dnsup1 votes

Just get your team to focus him (even at the expense of losing a few towers). The entertainment value of a diamond zed crying in [All] chat and getting flamed by his team is totally worth it. He chose zed because he wanted to steamroll his lane, so he deserves to get denied.

It helps if your team has a fizz or a vlad--switch lanes with that person and zed will be frustrated to no end.

Sijm4 votes

Nidalee is a problem. So is syndra. Perman ban nid pls. Syndra can spam Q like crazy

Killer of Poros4 votes

The only thing I hate about it is how many times I'm being yelled at while trying to enjoy myself. I just want to try and enjoy a game mode that people had been hyping for me for about a year, and then when it comes back it's even more hatred being spewed out, with me having to mute more people than when I fed in ranked.

DJ Di03 votes

The best way to enjoy this mode is to invite some friends and mute the enemy team, if you don't want to listen to qq.

LOL Spammer3 votes

Funny how this thread has turned into a thread about people posting what they think should get permabanned instead of his actual point which is STOP COMPLAING ABOUT PERMA BANNING THINGS.

Auryiel3 votes

Only thing I don't understand is why certain champs that were perma banned before aren't this time around. They will ruin your games. But that aside, I'm super happy.

BluesMusic3 votes

That map is horrible, it's basically just a dozen characters exploiting a few abilities. It's almost unplayable as a melee, or if you don't have an op spam ability.

What they need to do is just make a map where everyone is level 18 with unlimited gold. That way we can actually see who is good at PVP. Killing minions and leveling up is just a waste of time.

Jingerbeardman3 votes

{quoted}

That map is horrible, it's basically just a dozen characters exploiting a few abilities. It's almost unplayable as a melee, or if you don't have an op spam ability.

What they need to do is just make a map where everyone is level 18 with unlimited gold. That way we can actually see who is good at PVP. Killing minions and leveling up is just a waste of time.

getting to level 18 is part of the challenge, and starting everyone at 18 with unlimited gold would just end up being a few team fights and the match would be over.

1cec0ld3 votes

It would also be biased toward late game champs. Jax, Tristana, can't think of more off the top of my head, but Roflstomps inbound.

QueenAqua3 votes

Remember alst time they released it and they "deleted" champions? LOL. They should just be glad that Riot didn't just do that to all the champs that would get "too much benefit from it". I wholeheartedly agree! Just be happy its back and play the heck out of it before it goes away again.

Whimsy Spook3 votes

The fact people are actually complaining about some champions being more unfair or more OP than others is just stupidly silly. Who cares? The game-mode is still the funnest thing ever.

Thefriendlyorc2 votes

I honestly dont find it very fun anymore, They took away maokai's only strength with his traps, shaco gets blown up and teemo is... teemo. All trapmasters are utter shit and I cant really have fun. =/

Drakzul1 votes

Shaco and Teemo are still really good. Shaco can alternate with q- w-q-e-q and just keep dancing around anyone. You have to go ap though for sure. I ended up getting like 8 kills just due to people running over boxes lol. Especially with tele and q you can traverse the entire map in seconds lighting it up with boxes like a xmas tree. Let alone your perma ult that does 50% most squishes health on explosion lol.

Teemo requires a specific item build to be the best he can be and is UNSTOPPABLE against skillshot champions. Try hitting me with a skillshot when I'm running at 600 MS. At one point I avoided a leblanc dash that was straight on target, BY WALKING AWAY. Lichbane, Luden's echo, Boots, Ghost item if you want or another luden's :P, Deathcap and then either Liandries (so much trap burn) OR Zhonya's OR more Movespeed with luden's again :D. Paired with your w you can go at a constant 600+ movespeed and literally RUN across the entire map in like 6 seconds. BRING GHOST FOR UBER FUN! Place shrooms across the entire map and launch 1 sec blinds at anyone who dares AA you.

Thefriendlyorc3 votes

Played both. Shaco is only good if ahead and cant recover. If there is EVER a kat in game the game is over. She's beyond godly with any knowledge of the game. I had a few matches where I had fun, but I just dont understand why they gutted URF Maokai because his seedlings were op, meanwhile kat can ult twice in 2 seconds, Jax can jump faster than he can auto, Zed cant be caught without surpress, and nidalee is nidalee.

Besteau2 votes

I think Jayce is more annoying than Hecarim. I lost my top lane 4 min in and the second tower at 7 min. because all 5 of us had to be used to kill jayce the rest just caved in

Dracid2 votes

i never wanted it back. Its the same shitshow as last year. People just try harding with the most OP champs and not trying new things. Zed akali, hec, sona ez, xerath in every game. god forbid i try AP nasus only to get dumpstered on

dnsup1 votes

If you didn't like it last year, then why are you even playing it this year? Just don't play it. No one's making you. It's literally that simple.

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