Boards›Story, Art, & Sound

Put the League in the Future

Capn Of Capns··7 votes·1,616 views

Instead of removing the league, why not make it so it's a thing done in the future? Instead of having it so that the champions exist at the same time as the institute make it so the institute is a futuristic place where powerful mages have made constructs based off of legends, and they use those constructs to settle disputes, entertain people, blah blah blah. It's the league of "legends," right? Well, most "legends" are dead. It would also explain why champions who are supposed to be basic, like Garen, can do impossible things, like summon a giant sword of Demacia from the sky.

I know I'm not the only one who enjoyed having a reason why these people/creatures are killing each other, or enjoyed there being a reason why I'm controlling them, or enjoyed being a part of the game because of the story. When I was younger it amused me to imagine myself as living the life of a summoner. I've always held a little bit of that, and now it's been taken.

Edit: It occurred to me today that this would also solve the problem of why someone like Gnar is a champion. Champs like Gnar, Rammus, Orianna, they're just interesting stories- literally legends. What place do they have in the world other than to be interesting? Doing things in my way would give us a reason for why they exist. They exist because they're interesting legends who someone decided would be an interesting champion.

17 Comments

Alljoy2 votes

I might like where this would go.

Valaran Nara1 votes

If we went with your idea, then they would have to make everything past tense. The construct of how things are would be completely different.

Or maybe, the same. In which case, that just means that they would just fast forward to the future and say "Oh, this is happening at this time, but during present, blah blah blah"

They keep IoW, but it's still "removed" Nothing changed other than adding another element that may just seem...awkward? Maybe? Or, at the least, we no longer do lore of the champs and instead go with the League and how they use the magical summons in something different since, you know, the legends are dead. NO story add to that.

Capn Of Capns1 votes

I don't think it would kill the story at all. If anything it would free them up even more. Tell me, how can they kill off a character as things stand? If Noxus and Demacia go to war, the champions are invincible because how would they be fighting on the fields if they're dead? It would also free them up to continue the world history as time goes on, and continuing making champions without the world getting too full of them.

Ex: They release a champion who is the son of Garen, and for his lore release event they detail how the world has changed in the years since Noxus won the war, and how he led a revolution to fight back.

You get continuation of the world, you get rid of the Demacia champions in the world, and you get new blood to tell the story with.

As things stand right now they have a lore event, like the Frejlord event, and then... no ending. Which of the three tribes won? They made it clear they fought, so who won? Lissandra is trying to freeze the entire world, did none of the other world powers pitch in to stop her? The Freljord and Demacia were allied, making it so Noxus didn't want to tango with Demacia. With Ashe and Tryn's faction tied up fghting Liss, did Noxus launch an offensive on Demacia?

They tell us things happened, they start these stories, and then there is no closure.

SchaakaKon2 votes

If Riot were to actually do that, that would be something amazing. At first I was a little put off by your idea because essentially LoL would be "I choose to summon Genghis Khan mid lane vs Jimi Hendrix from the blue side ect.." it would make LoL waaay to superficial, in a sense.

*But.. *** If they made champions and skins based off of Actual lore that happened at a later event (Such as your child of Garen example in a post-Noxus world) and Riot gave us the Full Lore that lead to that event in the timeline, then Hell Yeah I would be jizzing my pants in excitement about all the lore. (Braums lore actually validates this idea, in a side note)

This would then free up alot of the LoLverse constraints that the lore team is seemingly too worried about. Riot can tell the tale of how Graves finally corners Twisted Fate at the top of a three story church and after a witty (or lame) one liner, Graves blasts him out the stained windows and that story comes to a close. But before all that, Graves finds clues on the whereabouts of Twisted Fate, the world of Runeterra becomes alive and illustrated as we read and he travels the lands finding more clues, he meets companions along the ways ect.. But Best of All even with TF dying, it does not ruin the game of League of Legends. It was the story of these two champions and its conclusion.

Capn Of Capns1 votes

That would be a pretty cool novel to read. Oh look, more lore options, another source of revenue, more merchandise for the fans.

SchaakaKon1 votes

I'd hate to villainize Riot and say they drool at the prospect of making money but creating novels that enhance the world and history of the LoLverse would be f'in awesome (and the side-effect of getting mo' money wouldnt hurt).

FFS, Diablo has several novels that I enjoyed, relative they had to work with a game series that preached 'minimalism lore'.

Capn Of Capns1 votes

I don't feel like Riot drools at the thought of money, but it'd be very cool if we started getting novels set in the universe. It's already set up, it wouldn't even have to involve the champions. I can't see how it would do anything but strengthen the game.

Valaran Nara1 votes

I don't think it would kill the story at all. If anything it would free them up even more. Tell me, how can they kill off a character as things stand? If Noxus and Demacia go to war, the champions are invincible because how would they be fighting on the fields if they're dead? It would also free them up to continue the world history as time goes on, and continuing making champions without the world getting too full of them.

Ex: They release a champion who is the son of Garen, and for his lore release event they detail how the world has changed in the years since Noxus won the war, and how he led a revolution to fight back.

You get continuation of the world, you get rid of the Demacia champions in the world, and you get new blood to tell the story with.

As things stand right now they have a lore event, like the Frejlord event, and then... no ending. Which of the three tribes won? They made it clear they fought, so who won? Lissandra is trying to freeze the entire world, did none of the other world powers pitch in to stop her? The Freljord and Demacia were allied, making it so Noxus didn't want to tango with Demacia. With Ashe and Tryn's faction tied up fghting Liss, did Noxus launch an offensive on Demacia?

They tell us things happened, they start these stories, and then there is no closure.

No-no no! That's not it. We still have the "removal of the IoW" because it did not exist during their time. Which means, say, Orianna would not dream of joining the League because it does not exist. Yes, what you suggest works. It works well, but it would equate to what we have now except "League still exists, just not at present." Because all you said works as of what we have right now. You said "future" which means they can legit just do it "later". They can say that what you suggested is so, but then we'll go from present, future, past, present. Because we still have htings back in the day with Sion's generation. Then we have J4's gen, then they would also do Katherine (Garen and kat's baby). I mean, it works, but all that does is add a 3rd part of the timeline.

Capn Of Capns1 votes

An important part, in my opinion. It explains why the game exists, why these people are bashing brains, how these people from different times are together and not old and wrinkly, and explains what the hell we are doing controlling these powerhouses. I doubt there is a single champion who wouldn't smack me silly for daring to tell him/her/it what to do.

John Berserk1 votes

So basically the IoW would be made waaay after all of this stuff has happened, as a sort of way to turn history into entertainment? Or would the IoW be created IN RESPONSE TO these cataclysmic world-changing events as a means to try and contain them?

Capn Of Capns1 votes

Something like the IoW would take time and power to set up, and to me it seems like it'd be more of a side thing than anything major. I see it as more of an entertainment that happens way after the fact. Keep in mind the IoW was originally created to stop all the wars because the magic being unleashed was ravaging the land. It caused things like Rammus to happen, and everyone agreed the rampant magical damage was bad. The IoW was opened to settle disputes between countries, and while it started as a token gesture made by the city-states while they recovered their strength, it grew in power and popularity until it actually did what it was supposed to do.

Using the IoW as a means to contain the events would put us back at square one and constrain what the lore writers could write.

Glescoron1 votes

As far as alternatives to the retcon goes, this is a really fascinating solution. It'd take a little fenaggling to get right but there's potential here and it'd definitely be interesting.

GreenLore1 votes

While it would be a cheap excuse for the summoners,it would at least be an excuse.

I would be against the idea of it explaining abilities like Garens ultimate,that sounds like Garen was too weak in his lifetime and needed to be artificially buffed for the league(although it could explain why garen can set someone on fire by glaring at them if he is using ignite)

However the question would be how to justify the future league to summon the champions from this specific time? If they can summon legends from the past,then where would be the difference between summoning someone from lets say 100 years ago compared to someone from 200 years ago?Why would they summon Annie in her child form not in her adult form?

I could imagine 2 answers for that: 1.The guys who later create the league of legends do already live at the same time as everyone else,they don't have the power for the league,but they need to use their magic on the champ once to recreate him later and they do it now and not later. 2.A time traveler,who traveled back into time to collect the data needed to recreate those legends(at the same time he/she might try to stop whatever was causing the rune-wars in the first place),there was once a concept of a time traveler named tempus floating around.

There are probably more possibilities,but those 2 came to my mind just now.

Capn Of Capns1 votes

While it would be a cheap excuse for the summoners,it would at least be an excuse.

I would be against the idea of it explaining abilities like Garens ultimate,that sounds like Garen was too weak in his lifetime and needed to be artificially buffed for the league(although it could explain why garen can set someone on fire by glaring at them if he is using ignite)

However the question would be how to justify the future league to summon the champions from this specific time? If they can summon legends from the past,then where would be the difference between summoning someone from lets say 100 years ago compared to someone from 200 years ago?Why would they summon Annie in her child form not in her adult form?

I could imagine 2 answers for that: 1.The guys who later create the league of legends do already live at the same time as everyone else,they don't have the power for the league,but they need to use their magic on the champ once to recreate him later and they do it now and not later. 2.A time traveler,who traveled back into time to collect the data needed to recreate those legends(at the same time he/she might try to stop whatever was causing the rune-wars in the first place),there was once a concept of a time traveler named tempus floating around.

There are probably more possibilities,but those 2 came to my mind just now.

Well, you do raise some valid points. Again though, it's the league of "legends." Perhaps the legend of Annie as a child is more popular than the legend of Annie as an adult? A child who bound a bear thingy to her will might be more popular than the legend of a woman with incredible power. Besides, Syndra's got that down pat.

LordHippoman1 votes

Someone else brought this up a while back, and I think the problem with it is that it doesn't really solve the problem people are having with "I want to play as the characters effecting the world". If they're just illusions or constructs, they still aren't really doing things or progressing the world. The summoners are, at least, but that's the only major hangup, I think.

Capn Of Capns1 votes

Players never did play as the champions is the thing. Like, they did kind of, but really it made no sense. You have political figures just taking time out of their day to settle child custody? And, assuming they could be convinced to, they gave up their free will and did whatever the person who summoned them tells them to? The champions are more like artificial constructs based on people than they are actual people.

Dandymann1 votes

This idea actually seems like a great way to do it. Maybe the destruction of the other teams Nexus provides power to keep the constructs and consciousnesses of the champions around for a while to catch up with the world, or at least live again. Also, if anything happens drastically in the lore, the League isn't affected and there could be some sweet skins made for post-war or revolutionary events.

More from Story, Art, & Sound

Petition to keep the Bilgewater ARAM map in circulation
Story, Art, & Sound154 comments
1,161
votes
[SUPER IMPORTANT PETITION] Change Sion's ban quote...
Story, Art, & Sound54 comments
597
votes
Can we get an Honor animation?! 4 ways to insult an opponent but none to congratulate them.
Story, Art, & Sound202 comments
578
votes
Petition to make Rengar wiggle his butt when there's a pounce-able target near his bush
Story, Art, & Sound140 comments
476
votes
About this years harrowing...
Story, Art, & Sound357 comments
459
votes
RIOT, please postpone Blood Moon Diana and make it into a Legendary skin.
Story, Art, & Sound236 comments
423
votes

More by Capn Of Capns

Akali's Smoke Kills Counterplay
Gameplay148 comments
76
votes
So Zoe is...
Gameplay101 comments
60
votes
Spawn Rainbow Dashing Permanent Icons
Concepts & Creations0 comments
9
votes
Make Kalista Jump Every Other
Gameplay0 comments
3
votes
PBE TFT Can't Finish A Game
Gameplay1 comments
2
votes
Tryndamere's Ult Changes
Gameplay5 comments
2
votes