Yorick has such a cool lore

femmé·Mar 6, 2015·4 votes·878 views

too bad the champion is completely toxic to play against and isn't good past laning phase...

the lore is cool, but he needs the rework.

i don't even play yorick but i'm willing to say this.

19 Comments

Fed by Snu SnuMar 6, 20151 votes

Chogath Nasus Trundle

All 3 beat him and scale better.

Even Fiddlesticks can lane against him, win the lane and then be more useful.

"But muh lcs picks, rito please, so toxic, wah wah wah"

femméMar 6, 20151 votes

not at all what i'm saying man, i'm talking about how his kit is spam with little to no counter play....his whole kit is dumb and really should be reworked but he has a really interesting lore at the same time.

Fed by Snu SnuMar 6, 20151 votes

I just gave you its counterplay. Stop spewing buzzwords. The counterplay is outsustaining. And champions that can do it do exist.

He is also really easy to gank with pretty much everyone.

GreenLoreMar 6, 20151 votes

Counterpicks don't help people in normal games though

Fed by Snu SnuMar 6, 20151 votes

There's a reason why dota has the term "pubstomps" and why they aren't used as a balancing stand point.

SharjoMar 6, 20151 votes

There's also a reason, many reasons, why in League they treat such things differently.

Fed by Snu SnuMar 6, 20152 votes

Yes.

They are bad at understanding what "counterplay" means and only use it vaguely to justify their biased changes.

femméMar 6, 20151 votes

i'm not gonna argue with you, you clearly don't understand that this isn't a "qq" thread of any means. His kit needs a rework, it's boring to play against and boring to play with i'm not talking about how you deal with yorick at all there is a reason no one picks him lol.

Fed by Snu SnuMar 6, 20151 votes

"Boring" and "fun" are subjective terms.

If you can't understand that, then you clearly lack the ability to properly "argue" about Yorick.

A kit isn't judged on how "fun" it is, but on what it offers gameplay wise. And Yorick offers one of the most unique interactions, with some perfectly fine ways to deal with it.

And then the "self entitled brats" nation attacked LoL.

femméMar 6, 20151 votes

alright man, i don't want to argue about this but you really want to so I'll let you have the last reply so you can feel accomplished, this is not what i'm talking about at all but obviously you want bicker with some one on a different continent than you for no reason other than to complain. I'm not replying to this anymore so say what you want in response...have a good day.

AbsoluteSadmanMar 6, 20151 votes

"unique interactions"

spawn ghoul, spawn ghoul, spawn ghoul, ult self

Fed by Snu SnuMar 6, 20151 votes

Not in laning, but his ultimate.

Trying to diminish something like that shows an extremely narrow view of things.

AbsoluteSadmanMar 7, 20151 votes

He makes a friendly morde ghost with a 10 second revive slapped on, thats pretty dull imo. I find vlads AOE DFG much more entertaining to play against and with.

Fed by Snu SnuMar 7, 20151 votes

Less dull than any other nuke/dash out there.

And I like Vlad's fairly unique utility as well.

The point is that he DOES have counterplay and people should stop using shitty buzzwords.

GreenLoreMar 6, 20151 votes

I think he is one of these characters where they consider a full relaunch,like Sion

The next one to get a full relaunch is Poppy and after her they plan on relaunching Urgot I guess Yorick would come after that :(

Only Play DariusMar 6, 20151 votes

A better question, is what the hell were they thinking when they designed Sion? Have you heard his original voiceover?

SharjoMar 6, 20151 votes

Probably not much. Old Sion comes from a time where Riot was just getting on its feet and League was still a game you could purchase in full in shops.

TerraRisingMar 8, 20151 votes

Once more, into the breach.

Lore wise, I believe the best way to simplify Yorick is "blue collar." He's the guy who cleans up the messes left behind by the rest of the Shadow Isles champs and, possibly, relates to mortals the best out of all of them.

Kit-wise, what holds Yorick back is his ultimate. It's an ultimate that was created at the last minute days before he was to be released. It's a last minute creation, with little to no testing done on it, that continues to plague Riot worse than the great Stealth rework did, from crashed games when Yorick was released to his ult breaking the recent "Ascension" game mode last year.

Xelnath, with the help of the community, created a new kit rework that was finished 14 months ago., but Sona, Soraka, and all of the other reworks released in 2014 were a higher priority, apparently. Hell, Yorick is, likely, behind Urgot and Mordekaiser in terms of rework priority that is "Sion-level" or higher.

The main problem is that, unlike Malzahar and any other "pet" using champion, Yorick's ghouls would likely difficult to program for since they should act as extensions of the Grave Digger instead of slightly faster minions. If this is what's delayed Yorick's rework, I'd like them to at least admit it without the whole "We know he's a problem and we appreciate your passion, but he's just not in our scopes right now" nonsense.