Riot's new lore has me looking for Lore updates more often than I want to play.

Mig89··42 votes·2,010 views

Nothing against the game, I've just become a lot busier as of late. When i have a free half hour+ the first thing league related I do now is check the universe page. Hats off to the lore team.

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PlanetWarwick9 votes

They've lore'd you in

ModCaptainMårvelous5 votes

Consider this a tinfoil hat theory buuuuuuut...

Months ago Riot said they wanted League to be around forever. Which is laughable. The longest lasting SINGLE game we have right now is CS:GO with DOTA2 coming in second place. Both, at most, have been around for nearly two decades. Riot saying League will be around for 50 is the equivalent to pointing at the moon and saying you're going for a home run.

However, Riot realized they now have an IP to the scale of Warcraft or Starcraft. People know this game and lvoe it, even if they don't enjoy the gameplay. In doubling down on lore, they're building the world for the eventual "death" of League that happens when they have to move on. However, this means that the IP will still exist and that they can continue making league products. After all, a lot of people dislike the MOBA genre.

Velzard of Koz2 votes

Pinball of Legends Game confirmed!

On more serious note, Meddler should be now working on expanding the game gallery so that Riot Games deserve the S at the end, however it is questionable If it's anything lol-related.

ModCaptainMårvelous4 votes

They bought radiant entertainment who was working on rising thunder. However, according to "sources" (Read: nothing we can confirm) it (A league fighting game) was apparently scrapped months ago.

Which is a fucking shame if true.

Mig892 votes

I'm not a big fan of fighting games but A league one would be cool. Even if they took out all the ranged and mostly magic champs, you would still have a huge roster to choose from.

Xonra1 votes

Which also seems slightly illegal seeing as the previous game was the equivalent of kickstarted, the money was taken, then Riot bought them out, then scrapped the game for a "league" version, then scrapped the project.

Not sure how they can't be full on sued for that kind of shiftyness.

ModCaptainMårvelous1 votes

Depends on the service they used. I don't know too much about it but if I had to guess, worst-case-scenario was that it's a shitty thing to do but perfectly legal.

Mig891 votes

I would do league a favor and stop playing (im really bad) if theyd make an MMORPG set in Runeterra. (im lying, Id still play league)

50000000000000001 votes

MMOs have been on the decline for a while now, so I doubt people are gonna try to make new MMOs.

Jesus is Savior3 votes

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MMOs have been on the decline for a while now, so I doubt people are gonna try to make new MMOs.

MMOs are on the decline because all the good MMOs are old and dated (or turned into pay2win scams, eg: Ragnarok)

A new GOOD mmo would actually be decent. But you'd have to do it perfectly. ie: if you ignored bots on release your game is dead.

Mig891 votes

I doubt it'd ever happen but i can want it. XD

hi im alphonse2 votes

MMOs are hella resource intensive and im not sure even riot wants to take that gamble.

Swarovsko3 votes

Agreed. They are really talented.

Papa Andrei2 votes

I used to be someone who never once played the game. I learned about it around early S2, gave zero shits about the game itself and memorized every single scrap of lore out there. Then decided to start playing in 5.18. AAAAND now im back to just lore hunting xD

Mig892 votes

haha nice

50000000000000001 votes

My first few months of League was looking up every single character and learning about their gameplay mechanics and lore. I spent more time looking those up than actually playing.

Mostro Gallo1 votes

The lore is whack

It's gotten better, but it's still whack

Mig891 votes

I like it. You get enough to know a decent amount about the champs and they're not too long to the point where it's a turnoff. Everyone has an opinion though. I hope they release something you like.

Jesus is Savior2 votes

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I hope they release something you like.

I liked the old lore that they deleted. I also liked summoners.

It also took them 2 years to even come close to replacing the lore they got rid of.... So we were sitting on "no official lore" for a long time, and at this point it's too little too late. I no longer care about the lore.

GreenLore2 votes

While I agree that the time where we had almost zero lore was really bad,I think your logic is really immature.

You are basically acting like a child that wanted a specific toy,but then doesn't want it anymore once it gets it,because it had to wait.

Jesus is Savior2 votes

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While I agree that the time where we had almost zero lore was really bad,I think your logic is really immature.

You are basically acting like a child that wanted a specific toy,but then doesn't want it anymore once it gets it,because it had to wait.

I wanted a SNES. I had a SNES. I was happy. Then my SNES was taken away, and I didn't have a SNES for 2 years. Then 2 years later I was given a SEGA Genesis. I am not happy with my SEGA Genesis. I liked Mario. My SEGA doesn't have Mario.

GreenLore2 votes

More like: You like your SNES and had it. Then they stopped making new games for the SNES and released the N64 You decided that the N64 can't have good games because its not the SNES The end.

Because its not like you can't reread the old lores or anything like that.

Jesus is Savior2 votes

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More like: You like your SNES and had it. Then they stopped making new games for the SNES and released the N64 You decided that the N64 can't have good games because its not the SNES The end.

Because its not like you can't reread the old lores or anything like that.

The old lores are not canon. They no longer have anything to do with the League of Legends world.

I can't feel "connected" to my champion when I'm playing them based on the old lores.

GreenLore3 votes

They might not be Canon anymore,but that doesn't mean that they don't exist anymore. And the game was never that much influenced by the lore,so if you don't feel connected anymore,then that is your own decision.

Not to mention that in the end,you yourself pretty much said that you didn't even give the new lore a chance simply because it took the new lore so long,which is a childish behavior eitherway.

Jesus is Savior2 votes

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They might not be Canon anymore,but that doesn't mean that they don't exist anymore. And the game was never that much influenced by the lore,so if you don't feel connected anymore,then that is your own decision.

Not to mention that in the end,you yourself pretty much said that you didn't even give the new lore a chance simply because it took the new lore so long,which is a childish behavior eitherway.

  1. Summoners no longer exist. Master Yi is no longer talking to me when I issue movement commands. He's just saying random shit to himself. "Did you miss it?" is no longer directed at the summoner, in a playful "I'm so fast even my summoner can't see me" sort of way. Now it's just random banter.

  2. Why should I give this garbage a chance?

http://i.imgur.com/iyeswZb.png/img

"And like a dog dragging its backside along the ground, Feen let himself slide down the glass with his ass-cheeks splayed for the viewing pleasure of the people below."

GreenLore2 votes

1.Most champions didn't have lines directed at the summoner anyway. Heck even this "did you miss it" that you yourself mention was not necessarily directed at the summoner.

2.Oh yeah because lore like "janna's dirty pictures got leaked teeheee" was so much more tasteful. Different lore pieces have different tones,the one about the zaunite kids had a more childish tone,wheras Warwick was a lot more serious or Mundos lore that was more or less full with dark humor.

Jesus is Savior2 votes

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2.Oh yeah because lore like "janna's dirty pictures got leaked teeheee" was so much more tasteful. Different lore pieces have different tones,the one about the zaunite kids had a more childish tone,wheras Warwick was a lot more serious or Mundos lore that was more or less full with dark humor.

Sorry but picturing a literal asshole sliding down some glass while reading League lore is.... Disgusting. I don't care about their opinions on "tone" dat shits nasty yo.

GreenLore2 votes

Oh my,its just a child pranking some people.

I mean seriously its funny how this is seemingly more appalling to you,than shaco stabbing the guy who interviewed him because he asked too many questions.

Jesus is Savior1 votes

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Oh my,its just a child pranking some people.

I mean seriously its funny how this is seemingly more appalling to you,than shaco stabbing the guy who interviewed him because he asked too many questions.

When I read, I am picturing images in my mind.

Some dood's bare asshole isn't one I wanna see. And the author was VERY descriptive, so-as to put that image in my mind intentionally.

GreenLore1 votes

Well in the end thats your opinion. Though generalizing this one bit that you dislike and projecting it onto the whole thing really feels unnecessary and like you are just searching for a reason to badmouth the new lore.

Jesus is Savior1 votes

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Well in the end thats your opinion. Though generalizing this one bit that you dislike and projecting it onto the whole thing really feels unnecessary and like you are just searching for a reason to badmouth the new lore.

That garbage was plastered all over the forums when it came out. I didn't need to "search" for anything. Heck I didn't even believe it was real, that's how bad it is.

Xonra1 votes
  1. Yes they did. That is the long and short of it. Now you are just lying to make your argument.
GreenLore1 votes

I hate to admit it,but I did a mistake here,forgot about all those "I received your command"-style of quotes(like Fiddles "yes my master" or Teemos "yes sir") which a lot of champions used to have.I only thought of those where the champion would directly adress the summoner(like Sonas "only you can hear me summoner" or Mordes "you only need to click once fool").

Xonra1 votes

The game actually was influenced by the old lore. I mean there are full on items (multiples of them) in the game based on LORE events.

It sounds more and more like you just weren't around for the old lore and are making assumptions based on the fact the newer lore is either all you know or just what you prefer.

Again, you just throw out opinions to discredit someone else's opinion, then call them immature/childish, which in fact makes YOU seem like the immature/childish one in this discussion.

GreenLore2 votes

Uhm as far as i can remember the ionian boots were the only items that were added through an event. I know that some other items had some lore(like dorans items being made by Doran after he got a kick to the head or a very small bit of backstory on wriggles lantern),but that hardly counts as an event.

Also we got Deadmans plate from the bilgewater event(because thats the plate that Gp wears after his near-death experience) and also got more backstory on the blade of the ruined king.

Xonra1 votes

Not true at all. You might like this lore better, but I personally prefer the old lore. You are saying YOU like it better, but that is only an opinion, and not a fact.

I like the old lore much more, and there are tons of things I dislike about the new lore. Just because the new lore is "new" doesn't make it an "upgrade" like in your example.

You are just projecting your opinion of it, but again, it is just an opinion.

GreenLore2 votes

Overall I have no problem if you say you like the old lore more than the new one. Thats your opinion and thats totally fine.

What I criticize here is that the person above me basically said that they dislike the new lore just because it took so long for it to come out.

Xonra1 votes

I'm not sure that is immature at all.

It is more like, you already HAVE a thing, enjoy that thing, then someone takes that thing from you, say a toy. Then you are told "it's fine we are giving you a newer toy" and you go...well....I really liked the other one you took from me, but alright.

Then two years later you gave up hoping for that toy after years of glaring at your parents for taking it away, then they finally go "Hey look, here is that thing I promised you two years ago!" and you would just look at them funny.

Sure some people might go "awesome, new toy", but some of us still remember the one that was pointlessly taken away with a complete b.s. reason ("too many constraints with the current lore"), then given nothing almost for 2 years straight.

It's okay for you to be cool with that, but don't call someone immature for not having the same reaction as you.

Mig891 votes

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I liked the old lore that they deleted. I also liked summoners.

It also took them 2 years to even come close to replacing the lore they got rid of.... So we were sitting on "no official lore" for a long time, and at this point it's too little too late. I no longer care about the lore.

The old lore, to me, felt forced. It seemed like they were just grasping at straws to make everyone fit into the league. I still have this theory that somehow once all the lore is updated theyre going to reintroduce the league of legends. Maybe not as it was but I have a feeling that it will be back in some form but again, thats just my theory which probably wont amount to much.

Xonra1 votes

Sadly this is pretty much the camp I am in. I adored the old lore. Part of what made me stick with the game coming from an MMO at the time and putting time into League.

Then they scrapped it with no replacement, sort of half-ass said "uh...yeah that one thing we did...that is part of the retcon now" with the freljord update, then just went damn near radio silent for 2 years with promises of "things coming up soon guys! Be excited" then more nothing.

It would be like my parents suddenly showing up at my house going "Hey remember that puppy you wanted when you were 7 after we took your other one? Well here ya go!" and I would just stare at them and close the door.

Shonicss41 votes

I'd buy a book full of the lore.

Xonra1 votes

I'm trying to be super excited about lore, but I feel bad that I'm not anymore. I loved the old lore, and the new lore is really good too, if not better in some cases. The problem is I loved the old lore, then they removed it, then waited how many years to start really going now? Something like 2 years with a mostly empty lore hole to fill.

Sadly in that time I fell out of love with the lore and just stopped caring. Is nice that it is here now, but sadly I sort of stopped wanting it anymore after the 2 years span of barely anything but a one-paragraph bleh.

Xodiathe4bdn11 votes

Well this got ugly fast

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