For the Viktor Lore Update

JungHai0·8/10/2016, 5:54:13 AM·44 votes·3,833 views
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I know that Riot has painted a nice picture of what the fans should except of Viktor and when I say expect I mean they obviously wanted us to see Viktor as a maniacal mad scientist laughing as he obliterates everyone that stands in his way, followed by hooded nameless acolytes that do his bidding only so that the shinning example of heroism that is Jayce could shine brightly and bring down his hammer upon the wicked. And there is no denying that this is “meta” or an “interpretation” when their current lore literally paints this picture and want this message to be loud and clear. But I think the writing community can do so much better, so before he is reworked let me lay out what I hope to see:

  • Give me a young student Viktor who designed Blitzcrank because he wanted to help humanity, how he designed Blitzcrank so that people wouldn’t have to put their lives at risk when science held the power to create beings that could do the difficult work so humans won’t have to. Talk to me how Viktor and his team of scientists valued human life and humanity so much that they decided to attempt something no one else had before them.

  • Give me young Viktor and his team caring about the environment as well as the people since Blitzcrank was supposed to help dispose of the radioactive and toxic wastes that were destroying their home.

  • Or a younger Viktor in the process of making Blitzcrank only to discover that not only did they succeed at making sentience but they didn’t make something - they made someone. Viktor seeing how Blitzcrank develops personality and talking to him as one would to a human, teaching him various things and seeing him become curious about his surroundings.

  • Give me a Viktor who suffered not only because he lost his lifes work but because he was betrayed by his professor, someone he trusted and he also lost Blitzcrank who was at that point more than just his creation. How much he felt as if he lost everything and that wherever he turned he would see Stanwick hailed as a great mind and he was spat on by everyone as a student that tried to steal from his professor.

  • How he isolated himself not because he was a “mad scientist” but because he was so hurt and betrayed by humanity he chose to abandon it even though everything he had done before was to help his fellow Zaunites who turned their backs on him.

  • Show me how Viktor in the deepest of his depression and isolation without anyone else managed to pick himself up and in his anger do something he wouldn’t otherwise do - experiment on himself despite knowing the risks.

  • Or how Viktor managed to create fully functional augments from scrap, from the little resources he could have in his isolation and without any assistance. How not only are they extremely well crafted and functional, but how he managed to install them on himself all alone and somehow survive the process and emerge with something that no one in either Piltover or Zaun has done.

  • Give me Viktor who honestly thinking the Glorious Evolution can help humanity and can save it from itself, and he would rather educate his followers and acolytes instead of coerce them to join. Viktor who would be happy to be able to once again work with fellow like-minded scientists with similar interests on something for the greater good.

  • I don’t want any dark or grim implications about Viktor forcing others to augment and strapping them to tables, give me Viktor saving lives of poor people and ones that were turned away by everyone so they came knocking to his door and he couldn’t bring himself to turn them down.

  • Give me the Viktor that first approached Jayce, tried to explain to him why he believes in the Glorious Evolution, trying to reason and befriend Jayce as a fellow scientist and intellectual, only to be turned down and accused of villany. Give me the Viktor who did not hurt Jayce and only took what he came for even though he could have clearly kill Jayce and save himself the trouble and yet by comparison is still the villain opposing to Jayce who stormed his laboratory and hurt his acolytes.

  • Give me Viktor who did not go after Stanwick, even though he is the sole reason for ruining Viktor’s life and bringing him to that point. Give me Viktor who chose self improvement over revenge.

Riot don’t give me another “misunderstood” villain who will be defeated by the hero and woobified by the fandom. Don’t give me another Marvel comic book villain to sell more dark themed skins. Give me a morally complex character deep in the grey zone whose main purpose is not to be the antagonist to Jayce but an antagonist and a hero to himself. Give me the Viktor you began writing in your story, the one you accidentally made someone with a good heart and noble intentions that has a dream to change a world that might as well not accept the change. Give me a Viktor whose struggles will be within him and who will at the end of his story see the flaws in himself and his Glorious Evolution however would still believe he can save humanity. Give me the Viktor that has a good heart that was forced into the metal shell by the humanity that betrayed his kindness. And honestly he has such a good set up, that it won’t require too much work to make his lore say this more clearly than so far. He is already complex for those that notice the details. Besides,who said anti-heroes and anti-villains can’t wear cool armor and have fancy long capes?

23 Comments

Malicious Metal8/10/2016, 9:38:26 AM21 votes

https://media.giphy.com/media/1Z02vuppxP1Pa/giphy.gif

Seriously though, nothing more to add.

Vik4prez8/10/2016, 12:46:27 PM10 votes

Its a shame but it seems the way Riot has been describing him lately indicates they plan on making him a purely evil character. Ive sort of given up all hope on Riots ability to handle Viktor as a champion conceptually. After his mid-season update, which most of the Viktor maining community was against but Riot just up and did anyway, ignoring all constructive criticism the community offered them, has left me with a sour taste in my mouth.

I seriously hope they can do his character justice with new lore, but I just really have no faith left in Riots ability to deliver something that isn't purely stereotypical comic book/Saturday morning cartoon villain-y.

Nurgle Prophet8/10/2016, 1:46:58 PM8 votes

Yes, please!

Creator Viktor and the Battlecast line, to me, lose a lot of weight as skins because it seems like something that could 100% happen in the main lore, given Riot's current direction.

Rework Viktor's lines and lore to reflect that which the fans see in him, which the original lore team saw in him.

I'd say to go as far as to have Viktor, who worked years on Blitzcrank, seeing his creation as his son, and Stanwick's legal fuckery over him as more than just humilliating him, more than just discrediting him, but as taking away his son, someone he LOVES.

Personally, I'd have him wipe away Blitz's memories of him so the sentient robot wouldn't suffer, and implant the idea of gaining independence from all those who would wish to use him to their own ends. Make it so the Glorious Evolution is more than an idea. It is the logical conclusion of a grieving father, a man who saw all he loved being taken away from him, and who saw more humanity in a machine than in any man or woman he knew.

And if you want tragedy, make it so he purposely suppressed his emotions when he "evolved" himself, so he wouldn't have to deal with the pain.

I'd love to see something akin to a short story where Viktor is working on a machine of his, and its internal circuitry reminds him of a part of Blitzcrank's designs, and the scientist lets out a single tear, before using his laser to disintegrate his would-be creation and immediately start working on a stronger emotion suppressant.

Voidzilla8/10/2016, 9:35:44 PM5 votes

This concept could also fit into the Battlecast line and Creator Viktor, with how he's using many of the Voidborn as the basis for his models. He's trying to combat the greatest threats to Runeterra by turning them into its protectors.

It's a shame to see how Riot seems to be reinforcing the notion that Viktor is a purely evil villain, instead of the tragic and maybe-a-little-misguided man who had to go to extremes in order to deal with betrayal.

TyrekGoldenspear8/10/2016, 11:35:46 AM4 votes

So, why are we all of a sudden trying to make Viktor a good guy? I like him, don't get me wrong, but I always saw him as somebody that turned to evil after all the crap that happened to him that caused him to say "screw the other scientists, I'll show them."

I hope you're not also trying to make Jayce the villain. He's a egotistical dude but he isn't evil.

And you're right, the cape looks really cool.

Whyte Lyon8/10/2016, 12:20:12 PM2 votes

Yeah I don't get what OP is trying to get at here. Are you worried Riot isnt going to do something similar to what you've copied from?

There are a handful of individuals in the community who fear over Viktor's potential new lore, which I think is misguided. I think maybe at one point Riot had a very black n white view of Viktor but I struggle to think that they would be dumb enough to carry out that "meta" interpretation. I thought it would be obvious Riot fully intend to embrace what the fans want, give or take some differences.

Ultimately Viktor is bad, but he's the bad guy with understanable motives. But only we as the viewer can see the grey. Totally nerdy example but I love the villian General Zod played by Michael Shannon. His motivation was to rebuild his home and it was his duty to save his people from annihilation, which he attempted to do multiple times. It was one of those "my people's future out ways your people's future" So you understand the evil because to the viewer it's almost honorable in a way, still evil tho.

There's no need to worry about Viktor, his time will shine.

Mimaropa8/10/2016, 5:50:22 PM2 votes

Viktor is a rival to Orianna ? I want to know more about that than Viktor and Jayce .

Blitzcrank is friends with both of them (and Rammus somehow).

Erractic Eick8/16/2016, 7:15:19 AM1 votes

DAMN YOU I DON'T EVEN PLAY THIS CHAMP AND I WANT THIS DONE RIGHT! HOW DARE YOU MAKE ME FEEL?!?!?!