Poppy's new comic is by far the worst fantasy peice I've ever read.

Knalxz··4 votes·1,921 views

Essentially the concept is Poppy is a great Hero and doesn't know it yet. That's actually something cool to work off of but the comic goes far out of it's way to insult the reader and every character in the universe, most importantly Poppy, since she's the focus of the comic...sort of.

I've made and read literally thousands of short stories over the years and this is just the worst I've read in a fantasy series.

Poppy goes into a village of many great Heros looking for the true wielder of his OP hammer and then a giant monster attacks. She sees this as the perfect opportunity to find the hammer's master and after a stalwart hero losing his weapon fighting the monster he is given Poppy's hammer. He then fails to even scratch the large mountainous monster and dies in the process. Poppy then causally takes the hammer back and destroys the monster leaving the village in search of the so called legend meant to wield the hammer.

The reason why this is so insulting to the characters and the reader is that it's so obvious that she's the hero she's looking for. Hell they even try the worst throw off ever by having her constantly refer to the hero as a male, in a universe where females seem to the the most powerful. Yeah, I'm pretty sure you're looking for a man there Poppy. It's insulting to the characters because not a single villager comments on her ability to destroy fiend that apparently was causing massive issues for this town of heros. She also doesn't even seem to think that in anyway she could be this hero.

You of a better way this comic could of gone?

Imagine this, instead of Poppy being oblivious to her great power, she is instead looking for someone greater to wield the Hammer because it is rumored to have a next level of power that she can't unlock after many attempts. Unknowingly to her she can unlock this power but after much practice.

That'd make far more sense then turning her into the most powerful idiot in fantasy. Modesty is thrown out of the window with this comic. She and the entire village are totally unaware of it.

Imagine how annoying it'd be if in Lord of The Rings instead of Fordo being tasked with destroying the The One Ring he is instead tasked with finding someone who can take the journey. Watch as he goes from major city to major city uncorrupted, giving this power to randoms who are killed by the raw power, than moving on to screw over more innocents.

That's basically what Poppy does here. She could of easily of killed the monster but got the Helmetless Bro killed because she's an idiot.

Is this really the kind of hero's Riot thinks people want? It's an obvious slap to the face. How does something like this get the green light? It's insulting to the reader, it's insulting to the characters and it's a terrible show of Riot's writers.

Now the art is great and hints to many things. Like how the monster is attacking because the native people are mining it's fellow monsters and that blue buff could one day become something so monstrous. But that goes on to make you wonder, why Baron Nashor was even a problem. I'm pretty sure that this literal mountain monster could fight Baron and win. If you look at the new baron's comparison size, this creature could just do a barrel role over Big Nashor and GG.

Art=Great Lore=Immersive Story=Abysmal

40 Comments

Zyorhist8 votes

Starting with the Gender concern. Granted that there are many female champions out there, they are the anti-norm. Soldiers, warrior, bandits and the like are primarily male. Riot has even gone so far as to emphasize this through lore such as Fiora's. So even though you get a random hero or two that are female, they would primarily be male.

Secondly I'd like to point out that she leaves through the opening in the walls, she doesn't go back and get people out of the cellar, she doesn't say bye to anyone. There is literally no one around to talk to her. No one witnessed her deed. No one to tell her that she is the hero. Then there's the fact that she has already stated (in her quotes) that he isn't the hero. Whether she is right or not she believes she isn't and therefore wouldn't believe anyone who told her she was. She wouldn't see it.

The other fact is that she believes the power she wields is from the hammer not her. She is looking for someone who can use the hammer's powers better than her. She doesn't believe that she could do these things without the hammer. She knows two things. 1) she will fight to protect those who need to be protected, and 2) she will continue to look for the hero for the hammer.

Like the comic or not, it drives home the point they were making. Even when it's blaringly obvious that she is the hammer's owner, she cant see it.

Knalxz1 votes

Another talked about the gender balance of Demacia being a bit off. I can understand it better but it doesn't exactly change the fact that extremely powerful women dot Runeterra. Several of which are from Demacia.

That seemed to be a major settlement and I doubt what must of been hundreds of people went into a single cellar and not a single person saw Poppy. It was a town of many heros and only one guy stood up against the beast. I doubt they'd all run and hide. If anything the dying screams of the monster and silence after would prominent anyone hiding to come out and see the yordle with the hammer leaving. Not to mention that someone would have to be on watch on that massive wall with several defense towers.

The sheer fact that she has used the hammer better than those she thinks are great heros is a statement to herself. She's seen other fail to do what she can with the hammer. Whether or not if she believes she is the true wielder of the hammer is irreverent, she must atleast know that she has power with it since others can't do what she can with it. Again why I say such a thing is insulting to the character and the reader.

The exact same thing I suggested drives the point as well but without making Poppy or the village people seem like fools. Not to mention that Poppy is carrying an extremely powerful weapon without even being noticed in a town filled wit great Heros in dire need of an ever greater one.

You just do not notice King Arthur and Excalibur walking into town. Granted she isn't a royal she must have some sort of reputation to even be given the task of finding the true wielder of that hammer. The Hammer is legendary, not just a blacksmith's side project.

Zyorhist1 votes

You're suggesting that someone would notice a person, with such a small stature, by word of mouth alone. This is a society and time where there is no way to pass on how someone looks. You have to go by verbal decree and that changes from person to person. Take the movie Braveheart for example. William Wallace was described as 6 foot tall despite being of average stature. This is because as a story is told about someone the details get exaggerated.

Then you have to factor in the fact that someone has to know the tale of poppy over the tales of Garen, Jarvan, Tristana, Jayce, Darius, Draven, Quinn, Ashe, Braum, so on and so forth. There are a number of famous people to keep track of. Not everyone will know Michael Phelps when he walks into a room, and we have internet and TV to know his face by. Most people don't know what Bill Gates looks like, would you know him if he walked into your city.

Her hammer also is nothing special, it looks like a normal demacian hammer. Who's to say she didn't buy it from a vendor. How do you know its special. Just packing it around doesn't make it any kind of special.

Then you got to consider the awe factor as she leaves the city. Even if there were people who witnessed her kill this creature. They would be in awe and shock. They wouldn't know what to do at the sight they just witnessed. After she left they'd tell her story but they wouldn't even know who she was so she would just be titled "The Hero". So even if she had a legend no one would know it really. And then you consider that this could be early into her quest. There is too much going on here that you cannot just decide was poorly written.

Personally I would rather give into the "suspense of disbelief" than try to decide that this was just plainly flawed.

Also, on a final note, during early times (dark ages) when there was no way to pass on how someone looks, royalty WOULD go into public AND be unnoticed. The only way to tell was the colored vanguards that traveled with them.

Knalxz1 votes

She's known to be carrying the hammer of legends. That alone should set of this supposed city of heros.

The sheer idea of us being able to comprehend the feats of the characters and go about our daily lives taking in a shit ton of other information proves that you can't know a shortage of tales.

Old weapons like that are identified by their general design. That hammer has many components that don't seem to be that of a run of the mill Demacian weapon. It even bears a large sigil on the side of the hammer allowing for an easy ID. Those kind of designs on a weapon aren't the average "Meh" Just look at Garen's sword. He has one of a similar design.

Early or late into her quest she's still carrying a legendary weapon. Again, it doesn't matter who walks into town with Excalibur a guy managed to free Excalibur! While it is a sight to behold it clearly wasn't since Poppy walked away as if nothing happened, which leads me to the point of the comic being useless. We didn't learn anything new from it besides the background art of what seems to be people mining blue buffs. IF this comic existed or not nothing about Poppy would be different than it is now.

You acknowledge that symbols played a key roll during these times, hence why it is so hard to believe that this hammer would go unnoticed in such a place. Not to mention that she's a Yordle, I doubt it's extremely common to see them around Demacia since the comic has her as the only one in town.

Many things are off and more should be expected. It'd just be far better to make her not seem like an idiot.

Zyorhist1 votes

The character doesn't exactly have a sign pointing at her stating, "I'm poppy the hammer hero". Some people might guess that is who she is, if they have heard of her. There is also the fact that she doesn't appear to be in demacia, and we don't know how much yordle presence there is around the areas.

The legendary weapon, when dealing with situations like having to identify her hammer from a number of other weapons, all of which you catch a glimpse of as you walk past, even if you might think you saw something notable, you'd be inclined to second guess it. Think about it, you're walking down the street, you see someone that kinda looks familiar for some reason, you think they have an expensive jacket, and maybe you think they're famous for something...you'll keep walking because, well you're a peon.

Point being, noticed or not, they are civilians and she is a hero, no one would confront her, no one would dare to tell her she is wrong. Not because she is intimidating, not because she is scary, but because she is noble or regal or however you want to phrase it. Only those in her league would state that.

The same is true of any interaction you have. You're at a bar, you hear someone who you think is cute telling a friend of theirs that they are ugly. You'd like to think you'd correct them, but you feel outclassed and you feel like talking to them would only embarrass you, so you walk away. This happens day to day everyday. There are very few who'd take that chance. There are very few who'd even try.

Going back to the weapon, every smith wants their stuff to look different. You're trying to pick out 1 hammer from thousands of possible designs. Sure, Excalibur is notable, but only to the locals who have seen it day in and day out. Take it to another city where no one has seen it before, no one would think it was any better than a masterwork sword. Notable, yes, but nothing more than money spent on good steel. The same could be said of her hammer, who's to say its special unless they walked past it day to day knowing its meaning.

Knalxz1 votes

Well the comic says that it takes place in a remote corner of Demacia. While remote it's till pretty clear the city is Demacia from the colors and style.

Wow, the idea that you see the general population as peons sounds extremely wrong. Either way, a "peon" will see such a style like that and normally rush to the person. Are you aware of how consonantly celebrities used to get swarmed by their fans? Many can't even stand next to such a person without feeling light headed. If you spot someone wearing a specif set of unique clothing that only a celebrity wears, you're going to be fully aware that the person who just walked past you wasn't the average joe. Just seeming someone wearing high end clothing usually will spark some kind of conversation.

Why would they tell her she is wrong. Kind of confused on the context on that statement. If you're speaking of wrong to think herself not to be the hero than yeah, they would. Think of a prince marking int town. Her's said to be a great fighter but doesn't wish to go to war because he's fearful that his skills aren't comparable to what he says are "True Warriors."

Throughout all of his journey's one person, friend or stronger must of come to him specking of his great feat of slaying a dragon or taking down 12 armored men with nothing but his bare hands so a totally viable reason to join the war effort. To be plain with you this is exactly what happened to my father's family. Their father's friend was apart of the military coming over to their farm, saw my father and his brothers remarkable shooting skills and got them into the military. Each of my 8 uncle served with 4 dying in war leaving only Denny, Kevin, Mark and my father Darcel, each serving in different branches but my father and the oldest Denny. Sadly my uncle Denny later used his set of skills in the wrong manner and saw 2 decades of jail time.

Anyways the point I'm getting at is, that once skill is displayed it never goes ignored.

that third paragraph actually seems like you have low self esteem. Maybe that's why your defending Poppy. Instead of seeing her as a humble character you see yourself within her. This isn't exactly uncommon to see in art so I don't blame you for jumping to the defense of what essentially is yourself. IF this is true I'm sorry to of offended you but this story isn't good for a character.

The Hero's journey is ruined by this tale because it misses the key component. The rejection phase. The hero MUST NOT follow their destiny only to be reminded that they are the only person who can do such a task. Poppy ignores this line for the worst. Her entire character is locked into the rejection phase but she still continues with the Hero's Journey.

The problem with how you're going about your last paragraph is that you're unaware that only the greatest blacksmiths were even allowed to do such designs mainly because they're the only one's who had complex forges. Other blacksmiths were reduced to basic outlines while the greats had a plethora of different devices to work with.

I'd just like to say it again. If I offended you in anyway please understand that it isn't because I'm spiteful of your existence it's purely because I know Riot can do better. I refuse to see them slack off when they've shown there skills to be much higher than represented. True skill never goes unnoticed, the simply turn around in such a way is a sad sight.

Zyorhist1 votes

Your post is rather long, and I cant say mine aren't, but as a result of that I need to break it down and respond to it in segments. Before I do though, I'd like to let you know that I actually see a couple of your points but I think they are slightly mis-founded.

Well the comic says that it takes place in a remote corner of Demacia....

I missed this part...so yea I guess you're right, but also remote corner could mean anything.

Wow, the idea that you see the general population as peons sounds extremely wrong....

Considering that medieval cultures (and fantasy storylines are almost always based on that cultural style) thought you were nothing if you weren't noble, yes the general population would have been viewed as peons or whatever you want to term them as.

Are you aware of how consonantly celebrities used to get swarmed by their fans?

This is from a culture where the celebrities can't do anything about it. In many early cultures it was acceptable to kill you just for being too close to someone of importance.

If you spot someone wearing a specif set of unique clothing that only a celebrity wears, you're going to be fully aware that the person who just walked past you wasn't the average joe.

She isn't necessarily wearing anything special. Sure she has a full set of armor and only the rich could afford something like that, she could easily be a knight on an errand or just some daughter of a rich guy trying to make her name known through the kingdom for her combat skills. She wears demacian colors at best, without some way to compare hers to other nobles and conversely to the commoners there isn't a way to know for sure that her gear is anything special.

Why would they tell her she is wrong. Kind of confused on the context on that statement...

Yes I was talking about them telling her that she is the hero and her not agreeing with them.

Family stuff...Anyways the point I'm getting at is, that once skill is displayed it never goes ignored.

I'm sorry that your family was broken up in such a way. Its truly saddening, and I'm sorry. As a vet I know that some skills never get forgotten, and other skills find another use. Its really sad that he didn't find something constructive for those skills.

that third paragraph actually seems like you have low self esteem. Maybe that's why your defending Poppy. Instead of seeing her as a humble character you see yourself within her. This isn't exactly uncommon to see in art so I don't blame you for jumping to the defense of what essentially is yourself. IF this is true I'm sorry to of offended you but this story isn't good for a character.

This isn't offensive to me. I have a personality like poppy's and I know that I've done things people think are heroic (Like going to Iraq and whatnot) but I don't see the heroism in it. I know her side of the fence because I know what its like to be told you are something and not feel it.

The Hero's journey is ruined by this tale because it misses the key component. The rejection phase. The hero MUST NOT follow their destiny only to be reminded that they are the only person who can do such a task. Poppy ignores this line for the worst. Her entire character is locked into the rejection phase but she still continues with the Hero's Journey.

This may be true when it comes to a storytelling, but as far as character goes it fits right in. Lives aren't like books, or stories. Some people can do great things while being stuck somewhere. Some people make it through their story to have achieved nothing. Just because she is stuck somewhere doesn't mean she is a poorly designed character.

The problem with how you're going about your last paragraph is that you're unaware that only the greatest blacksmiths were even allowed to do such designs mainly because they're the only one's who had complex forges. Other blacksmiths were reduced to basic outlines while the greats had a plethora of different devices to work with.

This is true within context. All smiths could do something different from another. They had a hammer and pieces of steel they could use for etching. They don't all have special molds or the such so maybe they didn't come up with tryndamere's blade but, her hammer is a slab of chiseled shone on a polearm. that's nothing special. Fabric on the side...nothing special. A crest...if a smith cant make a crest they aren't a smith. So looking at her hammer, its nothing a common smith couldn't do.

I'd just like to say it again. If I offended you in anyway please understand that it isn't because I'm spiteful of your existence it's purely because I know Riot can do better. I refuse to see them slack off when they've shown there skills to be much higher than represented. True skill never goes unnoticed, the simply turn around in such a way is a sad sight.

You haven't offended me and I only hope the same is true for you. I do think it could be written better, and honestly could make a great novel, but most of the newer lore would. I would like to sit down and write a bit of lore or do something to go with the world they set in place, but I honestly don't think its outside of the "suspense of disbelief" that they set out to attain.

edit: id also be interested in your view of a couple of my other threads...I would really appreciate you dropping in one of them and giving your opinion there too.

FloRaider421 votes

You make fair arguments and it's nice to see somebody actually explaining why he dislikes something

But I personally don't find her "stupidity" that unbelievable. She gets passed down the hammer from her mentor, whom she probably though of as the greatest hero ever and I think that she idealised him so much over the years (she searches since the start of Demacia) that she can't even compare herself to him anymore and searches for an unrealisticly perfect hero, who could come close to her mentor. The size of the hammer also plays a role since she can't "properly" wield the hammer and therefore searches for a large hero who would be able to swing the hammer with ease, maybe there is also a bit of racist background as a yordle as Demacias representator would get quite some hate. Lastly there is also the theory that she suspect that she is the hero, but is afraid to accept her role, as that would mean that a lot of time and lives have been wasted and that she has to become a shining beacon of hope for Demacia, which is a huge responsibility and something she probably thinks of as impossible for herself.

Knalxz1 votes

Got any counter points to make?

PROJECT Bear2 votes

the comic was pretty bad, but then again I doubt they hire professional storytellers (like, Rothfuss who is a bestseller fantasy author). I'm sure the story was written by a professional game designer, which is a different artistic medium altogether.

your idea sounds better already.

Knalxz1 votes

Thanks.

Ryugi Kazamaru2 votes

Poppy's new story is unique mainly because she doesn't see herself as the true hero of the hammer.

She's humble, she's sort of soft-spoken, she's a little awkward, and she doesn't truly believe in herself. She is not, by any means, your traditional hero on some traditional quest. She doesn't see herself as "the hero destined to shape Demacia" even though she does great things. Instead, she sees what she can do as nothing special, that anyone could do it if they could use the hammer effectively. She rationalizes her supposed greatness in any way that makes her seem less amazing than she truly is, because she refuses to believe she's anyone or anything special.

And honestly, in a world filled with powerful people, thinking of yourself as lesser when compared to them is pretty easy to do. So what if she beat up the mountain monster? Someone else could have done it too, like Garen or Jarvan, or some other hero. She's nothing special. She's just a yordle looking for the right person to wield the hammer. That's how she sees herself. And people in that kind of mindset constantly underestimate their abilities compared to everything else. It isn't unrealistic in the slightest.

Look at artists, in every sense of the word. Artists can create things that make the rest of us swoon with envy and interest, and yet, they only see the flaws, where they can improve, and fail to see it as anything amazing. They instead see their shortcomings, what the thing lacks, and not the beautiful colors and lines those of us outside might see. We, as people, constantly underestimate ourselves, we fall into depression, we believe that we can't do something, and that's simply the way things are to us.

Runeterra is FULL of heroic people who know they're badasses. They don't have to question it. They just are. They know how powerful and capable they are. Turning Poppy into another such character wouldn't have been unique or nearly as interesting, as you've suggested in your initial post. It would have just made her "the heroic yordle" rather than re-imagining her to be something more. Here, we have a dynamic and complex character with many different levels working together to create her.

She's filled with doubt at her own abilities. She doesn't think she's good enough. She's convinced that she's not anything special. Yet, when the chips are down, she'll fight, and fight hard to protect what she feels needs protecting. Despite her humble, dismissive nature, she's determined to find the right person to wield the hammer, a real hero. I don't think this slaps the reader in the face, and I don't think it insults them, or Poppy. What I think it does is challenge our concept of what a "hero" really is. Sometimes a hero isn't the biggest, strongest, baddest bastard around. Sometimes it's the quiet one, who walks softly, doesn't draw attention, and carries a big hammer.

Knalxz1 votes

Like I said the idea of not seeing herself as the hero is a good one just handled in the wrong way.

Humble goes out of the window when she gets people killed for not realizing her power. Like I said the story would of been much better if she knew she had power with the hammer but seeks someone who has the ability to master it. That way she doesn't come off as an idiot. Her greatness is far beyond obvious. If a humble person is critical in ending a war, yes they'll speck of their fellow soldier as the true victors and not themself. But, when that person single handled wins the war.

A truly humble character is Aang. He's the kind of person who is far stronger than anyone in the series but understands he can't do his job alone. He has inconceivable power for a child but still believes that others are necessary. He is perfectly aware that his power are far greater than others even thought he wishes they weren't.

The bad kind of humble character is Goku. He has constantly put lives at risk just so that others can win a fight. Vegeta was almost killed by Cell because he wanted Gohan to fight him. Majin Buu destroys the world's population because Goku wanted Goten and Trucks to have a story to tell. He let's his and Vegeta's son's die because he believed that two of the weakest characters in the series were key to their victory. He allowed many villains to reach their full potential just for a better fight which lead to even more deaths.

Goku is powerful but stupid, Aang is powerful but humble. Poppy' falls into one of these and I'll cut to crap, it's not Aang's path she's following.

So if this so called mountain monster wasn't such a big deal then why didn't this town of great warriors kill it? Most of this is assumptions here on the both of us but the sheer fact that the people were running into a cellar to survive shows that this rock monster was truly a Big Bad. Just because people do great things all day that doesn't mean your greatness is over shadowed. Great things are being done constantly in science, that doesn't mean that the guy who ends a plague threatening city goes unnoticed.

Your third paragraph is odd because you make it seem like you've never meet someone who's over confident. Thought many people are shy to their set of skills the majority are not. Like I said in my OP. The short stories I've read and made count in the thousands now. I've had the pleasure to meet hundreds of people who've made inspiring universes and we all love trading around our stories. Not a single one would read this tale and think differently than I. It has GREAT potential but is handled in the wrong manner.

There aren't any different levels of dynamics this new Poppy brings if there are, please list them. All it does is show that she believe she isn't a hero. Mine does exactly the same without making the hero or the people seem like an idiot. Instead of searching for a great hero she's searching for the perfect hero. Like you said, Runeterra is filled with greats, to find the perfect one to save a country would be a daunting task instead of juts finding anyone who can use a powerful hammer.

Again she can't have that thought process after watching someone wield the hammer, and die than killing the monster that killed the same person. How many times have you done someone else's job but better? You are aware that you did something better than another not oblivious to it. When you turn in that math test, that everyone said was extremely hard and you got a 100%, you'd come off as arrogant if you tell everyone that you need their help to do better on the next test.

She isn't after the right person to wield the hammer, that's what my story asks of her, she's looking for anyone to wield the hammer. No doubt that a hero can be any being I.E. Yoda but that doesn't mean that those small creatures don't doubt their own power. Yoda flat out shows Luke that size doesn't matter. Someone needs to do that for Poppy because she clearly thinks so little of her self that she's putting other lives at risk.

ADepressedLeona1 votes

That's kinda the joke here. Poppy doesn't recognize herself as a hero, even when it's painfully obvious. As the old saying goes, we are our own worse critics. As far as females being the most powerful... I'm not so sure about that, yes there are powerful females in Runeterra, but there are male characters that are equally powerful

Hecarim Azir Bard Brand Mordekaiser Nocturne Kassadin Malzahar Aatrox MasterYi etc

Are all very powerful on multiple levels

Knalxz1 votes

A joke is something you laugh at not the center point of an entire characters story. You know, because we need another Jar Jar Binks.

Also, this team,

Syndra Annie Illaoi

would be able to destroy all the male characters you've listed in terms of lore. I'm not doubting that the male characters have power, the female just have the most of it.

ModWulf Helhammer1 votes

Syndra and (adult) Annie, yes. Illaoi and young Annie, no.

Knalxz1 votes

Illaoi has a literal god at her disposal, I think it is the most powerful champion in the game.

insaiyanbacca1 votes

i mean bard could literally wipe all 3 of them from existence just by thinking about it, so whatever.

Knalxz1 votes

Well Bard isn't exactly male, isn't he genderless only being called a he because he has no famine appearance. Also Saraka is a celestial being just like him. I doubt he'd be capable of easily killing her.

insaiyanbacca2 votes

he can literally change time and reality, his body that we see was just something he made to interact with runeterra. hes a cosmic being of infinite power. and don't forget soraka gave up her status as a celestial being, she is now very mortal.

Knalxz1 votes

Where is the confirmation of this? Bard isn't an all powerful god he's merely a being who keeps the universal powers in check.

Syndra's power has no cap and she grows stronger each day to the point that makes her powers even more devastating and Soraka ONLY had her immortality taken away. Her lore literally says,

"for her transgression, she became mortal. She still felt the power of the stars within her, but they no longer offered her guidance."

Skelenth1 votes

Veigar, same as Syndra PLUS he can use the power of enemies against them and uses a similar power as Soraka and Bard. His abilities are cosmic occurences. You just don't wipe that off with a fire bear or ghost tentacles Don't forget about Xerath, who is actually energy himself. I think they are male

P.S.: I am not glorifying a gender over the other, just saying there are Champions that are "lore-wise" at the same level of power. And if this debate is continueing i suggest you go to one of the: "Who is the most powerful champion"-Threads

insaiyanbacca1 votes

gonna be honest, did you read the bard q&a where they talked about various things relating to bard and his power? his horn literally split reality allowing him to tap into all magical energy. reffering to his body:

Bard is a huge pillow with a something-like-soul inside. Correct!

(No joke) You're spot on. (another question from someone)Is this the only form Bard can take? Is it dependent on how people see him? Bard puts on this costume SO people can see him.

quoted from loping cinder on the q&a another rioter i believe his name was shiska(or something like that) answered someone saying bard is ancient beyond human understanding there have been various other comments on other posts about bard but it would take a while for me to find those the q&a is easily accessible tho

Ralanr1 votes

The gender dynamic might be a cultural thing. Gender seemed to be a tough topic in Fiora's story. Demacia might be very patriarchal.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

Note: If Poppy refers to the hero as a "he", that's technically correct grammar for someone she doesn't know the gender of, in proper English. Also, she didn't kill the guy, the guy asked for a weapon. She literally did what he wanted.

While the story is pretty bad, compare it to the Ekko comic. Both are pretty bad, and Ekko had 5 more pages. I just think that Riot can't fit decent amounts of lore into a very short comic while still making the comic good.

Knalxz1 votes

Choosing not to help someone in a dire moment is just as bad as killing them. Why give him a weapon wen you can crush the opposition? Unless you're going to teach him a lesson that pain hurts.

She clearly could of easily killed that monster which has been apparently has attacked the town before. Kind of surprised a booming city like that didn't have some kind of alarm or cannons on that wall.

Also, nice note.

TurquoiseYoshi1 votes

Because he asked for a weapon. He did something to the monster the first time, maybe she thought he could kill it.

Technically, that monster could have only attacked the day before or 100 years before. They might not have needed to make it/not had time to make it.

Zyorhist1 votes

also to note, the city didn't seem to be any more booming than any other city. They were a city with their own market...not anything notable. She had a quest to find the hammer wielder and was focused on that, not the monster. She thought she saw a hero and went with it, nothing wrong with that. She only crushed the monster out of necessity.

Knalxz1 votes

Any City with a mining operating and a wall standing that high with defensive towers is a powerhouse in someway. How many cities do you know of in reality that had hundred foot walls and weren't a key settlement?

Zyorhist1 votes

depends on the design of the world really. Also, my take is that its near a desert, and considering what kinds of creatures litter runeterra, what city wouldn't want to have some form of wall, with or without armaments.

Knalxz1 votes

Judging by how casually the guard says "It's back" that alone gives off the breathe that the beast is a somewhat common attacker .If it had been a monster of legends, they would of referred the create as something more than "it".

I.E. Baron Nashor and Gromp are two legendary creatures, they've been named to show so. If Riot wanted to show the power of such a beast a name is exactly how to give it off.

Zyorhist1 votes

could be that it came days, weeks, months or years later too though. Doesn't mean that its a frequent attacker. and also maybe its a little difficult to yell "Trogdor is back"

Doctor Jarvis1 votes

I just think its funny that apparently the Hero will just "know" how to use that hammer. Like she thinks she can just huck it at a dude and he'll be like "Oh yeah, huge hammer. This is the sort of thing I've trained with for years" instead of "This looks nothing like a sword".

Zyorhist1 votes

given the supposed cultural status, every warrior would be versed in using the basic weapon styles. Hammer (to include axe), Polearm, and Sword. Bow and Crossbow would also be known as well. Being skilled with these would be another story but to survive everyone would need a base knowledge of these weapons.

Stars Shaper1 votes

It's probably a matter of standards. Poppy declares that ppl around demacia must be strong if they are able to fight those monsters but after seeing the most brave and strong of them fail she looses hopes about finding the hero there, she consider them weak because even she could defeat the monster.

Knalxz1 votes

A nice point to make.

Disneylord1 votes

its not fantasy it happened in real

Star Guardían1 votes

Who says that the blonde guy died? People have survived from worse.

Also Baron Nasor is waaaaay bigger in the lore than he is in game. The same goes for blue and red buff. The blue buff in game is probably as big as the monster in the comic.

V Khat1 votes

Poppy suffers from Anxiety Disorder. She seeks stability as her lore and voice suggest, has issues fitting in, and wants settlement, something concrete to base herself. The reason why she doesn't think she is the hero is because she lacks confidence, but she had trained for so long, so her skills in combat is part of her security and safety zone, but she lacks the confidence to ever think that.

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