The lore team needs to put up or be rotated around.

C9 Scott Free ··5 votes·900 views

I was talking to an ex Rioter on Tiwtter when they quit and when I asked who the lore head was they laughed and said no such position existed. Well there is a problem right there. The reason why the IOW constrained you is because you tried to do a free flow story and had no particular direction to go in and not one person making sure your stories all line up.

Secondly, the current writing style is border line insulting. What do I mean? Well let's take a listen to the Shurima videos. Only a listen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKnM6Hh5gOg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYyuH1Bp2ZI

They are giant expositions. That is not good writing. This is just a dude (Nasus) talking. You guys claimed your lore would speak for itself but the thing is that with this approach you are just yammering it at us. The story isn't telling itself. Maybe you guys didn't want to hire the voice actors to actually have a meaningful interaction but then a web comic would have actually been a lot better. This was low quality and honestly you guys removed the IOW claiming it would free up story telling and so far every story that has been told could have occurred with or without the League in place

Nothing that I have read has mentioned that IOW took complete control over the summoners either outside of the fields and even then the story said they had to work together and get better acquainted it wasn't like just hopping on to someone else's Xbox after playing your XBox so I am curious as to where a lot of these stigmas came from with the Iow as Gods almighty because your lore says the opposite. Even Lee's lore was proof that summoners weren't so great seeing as the dude blew up a village and summoned a kid corpse on accident. They were not omnipotent in the slightest. Hell, half the monster creatures are only barely contained in the League but aren't destroyed because they can't actually take them out.

Sion's lore was ok but really it was the same lore he had before with just a little more detail on his final battle which is fine with me as that fleshed him out. The problem is you retconned what people cared about with the moniker of trust us and the promise of soon (TM). The writing style needs to be made more complex because the majority of your playerbase is in the 16-25 yrs old demographic and not the 7-10. Your game is rated Teen anyway so there shouldn't be kids playing so details of violence are a non factor as it is up to parents to monitor their kids. I want meaningful interactions and actual good story telling through the characters since Riot claims that is what this was about. You say you removed the IOW so that you could get a better character driven story and we are all waiting. I have rather low expectations at this point and Shurima fell below those. There is a lot of slack to make up for but only you can do it. Unless you wanna fly people like me, CCT, Ouroboro, Captain Marvelous, 1v1meAtTurret and several other people invested in your lore out to California to fix it. I am sure we could all use a paid vacation anyway.

15 Comments

LordHippoman3 votes

Yeah, I bet most videos are a lot worse if you close your eyes and ignore the actual video part. It's not an Ebook. It's narration of a video.

C9 Scott Free 1 votes

Yeah, I bet most videos are a lot worse if you close your eyes and ignore the actual video part. It's not an Ebook. It's narration of a video.

The story is still very soft. The story needs to stand up stronger. They said they wanted stronger characterization. Narration is not how you got about getting strong characterization. Imagine if harry potter had been nothing but some dude talking the whole time.

DG Ashabel1 votes

On the opposite, I find that the videos become much better if you mute them and put on the Indiana Jones soundtrack or some epic music.

The animation is strong and music is decent, but the writing is very forced and audio editing is completely bonkers. In the second video, they have Nasus repeat the same thing several times as he desperately tries to explain what's going through Azir's mind when he looks at Sivir. It completely tramples the "show not tell" rule, to the point where the videos are worse than they could be.

C9 Scott Free 3 votes

On the opposite, I find that the videos become much better if you mute them and put on the Indiana Jones soundtrack or some epic music.

The animation is strong and music is decent, but the writing is very forced and audio editing is completely bonkers. In the second video, they have Nasus repeat the same thing several times as he desperately tries to explain what's going through Azir's mind when he looks at Sivir. It completely tramples the "show not tell" rule, to the point where the videos are worse than they could be.

The videos are good. The writing is the problem. Like you said it is a tell fest. That is a major no no. Thats why I said a web comic would have been better if that styel was because of cost. The whole Nasus rambling a bunch thing was kind of lame. The lore is being carried by the visuals and a story should be strong on it's own with visuals as icing. It shouldn't need the video to be good.

C9 Scott Free 2 votes

Because the story of Shurima was TLDR in coming a dude wants more power HIs homie betrays him They lock away the traitor and a guard with him Years later his descendant goes down there with a chick The chick betrays her The chick gets cursed The guard and triator are free and crazy Sivir bled on Azir and now he is alive again

TerraRising2 votes

Do you have a link to that conversation with the ex-Rioter?

C9 Scott Free 2 votes

Do you have a link to that conversation with the ex-Rioter?

https://twitter.com/tomabernathy/status/515202904253149184

I was avoiding putting him out here but I guess since it was said on Twitter it should be common knowledge or considered as such.

TerraRising2 votes

Well, I would have known that if he hadn't blocked me (too many pointed questions, I guess.)

I do like how he threw his former compatriots under the bus. I give him that :)

LordHippoman2 votes

I read that tweet as being more "Nobody is really the "boss" " than "lol, my coworkers suck".

Why be so outright rude? Who does that help? Harassing Tom Abernathy on Twitter until he blocks you isn't going to bring the IOW back. Terra, you're smart, you've made good posts. Don't do this, man summoner 3

TerraRising2 votes

I read that tweet as being more "Nobody is really the "boss" " than "lol, my coworkers suck".

Why be so outright rude? Who does that help? Harassing Tom Abernathy on Twitter until he blocks you isn't going to bring the IOW back. Terra, you're smart, you've made good posts. Don't do this, man summoner 3

I don't think I was rude, but I did keep asking him questions he wasn't prepared to answer (about one per week). When he left the team, I think he just got tired of it/had a bad day. It doesn't really matter anymore, though.

LordHippoman2 votes

Eh, yeah, guess I read "pointed questions" the wrong way. My fault for reading too much into it.

Ouroboro2 votes

Agreed. I strongly prefer the direction the old lore was in, while connecting players into the game as Summoners. I personally think the retconning of the League of Legends in League of Legends is just...ridiculous. The story isn't unique anymore, and they're expecting to make a Super Smash Bros. esque thing when they can't, because the characters from Smash brothers have their own ENTIRE DAMN UNIVERSES BEHIND THEM. The characters are enormously out of place in my opinion with this new path.

That is unless, they literally retcon 70+ champions, give or take.

You have no idea how easy it is to explain this game to newbies by saying "Basically, you're a Summoner and you summon champions to fight other Summoners."

C9 Scott Free 1 votes

Agreed. I strongly prefer the direction the old lore was in, while connecting players into the game as Summoners. I personally think the retconning of the League of Legends in League of Legends is just...ridiculous. The story isn't unique anymore, and they're expecting to make a Super Smash Bros. esque thing when they can't, because the characters from Smash brothers have their own ENTIRE DAMN UNIVERSES BEHIND THEM. The characters are enormously out of place in my opinion with this new path.

That is unless, they literally retcon 70+ champions, give or take.

You have no idea how easy it is to explain this game to newbies by saying "Basically, you're a Summoner and you summon champions to fight other Summoners."

Yay the person with my favorite fek replied. In other news though they just want the cash dollars I highly doubt there won't be a League book or something to make cash off of.

Legacy of Xion1 votes

I'm down for a paid vacation to go help them fix their shit.

When are we all going?

On a more serious note, Riot really needs to start being more clear with EVERYBODY. They need to spill it all and stop trying to hype us with surprises. They aren't learning from Shurima it seems.

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

Is it not obvious that Riot does not care for lore to be a major part of their game? I think complaining about their position on lore is the same as complaining that Call of Duty had a bad campaign.

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