Is Swain Vastayan?

Beastyboy387IVC··8 votes·4,259 views

"You were given Vastayan blood yet chose to be blind" Is this how Swain got his powers to shapeshift? Rakan also has interactions with Udyr which are pretty interesting. Based on this, I wonder what direction they will take Swain with his VGU.

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dolphinosplash244 votes

"HELLO WORLD I AM SINGLE NOW" FREAKING LOVE IT

kitcat3002 votes

Seems like it. Maybe a descendant or stolen powers? Who knows at this point.

Also, the way his personality pulled a complete 180 against Ionian's caught me way of guard. Being a Karma main, it was kinda unsettling.

Jeddy0172 votes

The term given leads me to assume Swain was once a normal human, but something happened where he got Vastayan blood. I think he got into a nearly fatal accident or something & a Vastayan gave him some of their blood to save Swain's life. Swain likely used his new powers for his own gain.

winteriscoming971 votes

Man, Inuyasha was great

TheHappyReaperz2 votes

I'm more confused about Zed dateing Xayah. How did that happen?

Splision1 votes

What makes you think Zed dating Xayah is what Rakan was referring to?

TheHappyReaperz1 votes

4:11 You messed with my girl, what did you think I was going to do?

Splision1 votes

I heard that VO line, but for some reason I get the impression that he was trying to kill her (Zed isn't known for being romantic... At least post-Jhin). I have to see Xayah's special interactions to get a better idea.

TheHappyReaperz1 votes

It fits with his personality though. That, and the icon Xayah has, that looks quite a bit like Zed, suggests there is something going on there.

Splision1 votes

Well if they did date, I imagine what started them off was them just liking each other. They're both idealists that want to change the world, and they both seem to be calm and collected individuals most of the time. Also I think it would be interesting if Zed was the one that taught her how to be an assassin.

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

How do you get dating rather than killing?

TheHappyReaperz1 votes

Rakan a showing kind of guy. He has the attitude of "Hey, you looking at my girl?" about him, especially around Zed. If Zed had been a their or killed some Vastayans or something, it'd be reasonable for Rakan and Xayah to hate him. However, Rakan and Xayah already hate people, just as a standard. If Zed killed some random Vastayans, it'd be just another human being evil to them. However, Rakan has several tuants based off killign Zed, and Xayah's ability icon this one, which resembles Zed getting shredded by some feathers. Now, what would motivate someones current boyfriend/husband, idk if they are married, to hate you, and a woman to want to tear your heart out? An ex. Which, leads me to beleive Zed had some form of relationship with Xayah, and something went bad. The definitive evidence will be in Xayah's special interactions, which aren't out yet.

Chromatic Eagle3 votes

He could've personally tried to kill Xayah, which Rakan would take great offense to.

Jet Sett4 votes

"You messed with my girl" implies that Zed did something to offend them, so there's no way they were dating. There is the chance that Zed and Xayah had an affair, but that's the closest you can connect them romantically from that line alone.

Grimmjowned1 votes

It's based on the animation that Riot did. You know? The one where Zed tried murdering Xayah and she was saved last minute by Rakan's Shield? However when the rubble and dust cleared, Zed was gone, escaping into the shadows. Which also prompts the "You think you got away?" [vlad-salute]

Shadowkirby141 votes

From the looks of it until Swain's rework, there's a possibility that Swain might be. Dunno about Udyr since he's only taking the spiritual stances of animals.

Ralanr1 votes

Is...is he hitting people with a lemon?

Edit: though giving Swain a magical people blood transfusion seems more...interesting than being a corpse puppet controlled by the bird.

I think.

kitcat3001 votes

Pocket mirror it looks like.

Big Lincoln1 votes

i don't really agree

beatrice being a mystery is a lot more intriguing than just being a hybrid and having them tell us outright what it is

Ralanr3 votes

Being simply a mystery is more frustrating than interesting imo. It's basically what Eve is.

I like the corpse puppet idea more but no one else does.

THE BIG BROTHER1 votes

Nah, I'm with you on the corpse puppet. At least over the Vastayan blood idea. I personally like the idea that Swain struck some Faustian deal and he got Beatrice as a familiar.

Blood Magicks1 votes

Judging by his Udyr interaction there might be some secret lore where magical shapeshifters achieve their powers through Vastayan blood?

Wrathof3001 votes

I assume you are referring to characters like Frey from Vayne's story?

Destaice1 votes

Notice how he claims other characters are Vastayan too. It seems more to me that he associates transformation and athro characters as being vastayan rather than them actually being of that area.

That or Swain used their blood to achieve his power rather than actually being a descendant of the people.

Tattersall1 votes

I don't know about Swain, but I have thoughts on Udyr.

Everyone seems to be taking the word "blood" literally, but I doubt that it's meant to be. I have a feeling that all it is is that Udyr has a strong connection to mystical animal spirits, while Vastaya probably also have a have a strong connection to mystical animal spirits, perhaps even a genetic or "blood" relationship. Which would mean that Udyr, while human, draws power from a source at least similar to what the Vastaya draw power from.

Rakan seems a little… upset at this, but I have a feeling that it's just because he's not the most educated person when it comes to Udyr's job and intentions. He says

It is from our blood your gifts came, and my hand that took it back.

I still believe that the spirits that give Udyr power do so willingly, but Rakan seems ignorant to this. Almost like he's been indoctrinated into a radical rebel group…

Chromatic Eagle1 votes

Wait, Zed tried to kill Xayah? Why?

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

I didn't think about it when I was reading the stories they put out, but this pulls nidalee in, too doesn't it? And Elise?

Seems like they are taking this all the way with all the champs that can transform into other animals (or versions of them). I like how they are finally pulling it all together.

And yes, as a Swain enthusiast, I LOVE that they are planning to dig deeper on that. Swain has always been a tad TOO mysterious in the lore. He needs some background and setup that it seems like they plan to give soon... I hope.

SolarisCorvus1 votes

Elise isnt vastayan because her spider transformations are explained through vilemaw.

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