With the new lore can we get some likable villains?

Knalxz··50 votes·7,780 views

Am I the only one hoping for this? Normally the hero is just average good man with powers and the villain is the biggest asshole in the 3rd dimension.

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Examples Lissandra She's just racist, that's her entire character. She just hates everything that isn't like her.

Renekton A pretty cool guy until he had to hear Xerath's terrible singing voice for thousands of years and became a savage killing machine.

DrMundo This guy is just a murder. I don't even know how he even got into the league originally, he just flat out murders people in the streets and uses them for his experiments.

Syndra She was discovered to have crazy power that could go horrible wrong. Proves everyone right -_-

Malzahar Is basically Anakin Skywalker. He knows terrible things were going to happen in the future but instead of being the one man to stop them he just joins the problem.

I think it would be cool to get more grey area characters like those of Noxus. Darius wants what's best for his people. People can like him because he's out for his fellow man. Nautilus in a way isn't a villain at all, he's just a guy who got left behind and wants revenge. He's reasonably pissed, another reason why he's one of my favorite champions. The majority of champions I own is only because of how they are in lore. I find it hard to side with the person who's argument for justice is an eye for an eye. With that logic everyone should be a slave again because Africans weren't ever the only slaves and aren't the last. slavery is still a thing today yet people seem to go a little blind to it. Kind of messed up right.

270 Comments

TurquoiseYoshi45 votes

Honestly, the villain in League is who you find them to be. Some people think Viktor is a huge villain, and cite Jayce's lore for that. Some people defend him with his own and Blitz's lore. Most of it is just personal preference.

Ariel the Cruel15 votes

Honestly, the villain in League is who you find them to be.

Garen would like a word with you.

Not Katarina12 votes

Would like a Demacia with you

ViashinoWizard33 votes

Thresh

Sure he's a complete and utter monster who tortures people for eternity, but he's just so gosh-darn charming.

500000000000000036 votes

No wonder why Senna left.

Belligera25 votes

Too soon.Lucian item 3070

ViashinoWizard6 votes

100% wifesteal.

333lom32 votes

It'd be really nice if Riot added something in the lore to push Viktor back and place him in the gray area again, instead of pushing him towards an A-hole murderous villain like they're doing now.

A Superb Villain10 votes

I am not sure he even qualifies as a villain, since he's never done anything that can constitute as villainy.

iamdestinos5 votes

Let's see he has broken into jayces lab and had stolen ahigh tech crystal of power

A Superb Villain10 votes

He did ask nicely first, which is more than can be said for most villains. Even so, what he did was rude rather than evil; Jayce was left unharmed when he could have been killed to ensure his silence.

And you have it backwards; Viktor politely knocked on Jayce's front door, it was the Defender of Tomorrow that broke into Viktor's lab.

Baron of Bread4 votes

I don't know about calling it just rude. Theft is usually considered a crime even if it is non-violent and you leave them a thank you note.

Tails Doll1 votes

His whole character is about a guy that wants everyone to be like him and join his "glorious evolution". Sounds like a classic villian if you ask me, even he if is not one, he just needs a little push to be one.

333lom3 votes

But why should he be pushed towards a generic villain like that? It would be a big waste of his character. The guy even wanted to clean Zaun while he was a student.

A Superb Villain22 votes

How can you not like Veigar?!

Sure, he is unabashedly evil, but he suffered legitimate trauma and is just so ridiculously over-the-top his villainy wraps around to comedy relief. No one takes him seriously and he hates it with a volatile passion.

Rustling Bush18 votes

Leblanc

is pretty likeable, she like the funny sacarastic kind of villian you can't help but rooting for.

Sulghunter12 votes

Until you try laning against her.

Kadavik18 votes

Viktor Vladimir Draven Diana Graves TwistedFate Gangplank MissFortune TahmKench Shaco Sejuani Veigar

All of these champions are either the way they are because of tragic events or just plain evil yet hilarious and relatable. League has a couple of cliche villains here and there, yet not as many as you think.

Gigahappytown23 votes

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Viktor Vladimir Draven Diana Graves TwistedFate Gangplank MissFortune TahmKench Shaco Sejuani Veigar

All of these champions are either the way they are because of tragic events or just plain evil yet hilarious and relatable. League has a couple of cliche villains here and there, yet not as many as you think.

>sej >villian ????????????

don't talk shit about my wafiu kid

Ralanr14 votes

Damn right she's no villain! She's lawful neutral!

If anything she's an antagonist to Ashe's story. But they are both pawns of Lissandra and both want what's best for their home. Ashe just focuses on uniting the people while Sej focuses on bringing out the strongest.

Plus on Sej's side we got Volibear and Udyr. Both inherently good but are with Sej because strength is needed to combat whatever is coming.

Plus I think we got some likable villains. TahmKench Is fantastic

Swain Dare consider him unlikable? He's perfect for chessmaster characters in lore.

Shaco Could use more lore but that's why he's perfect for a likable villain role.

Gangplank Pretty sure that's what the recent event was for.

Diana Say what you want, she's a villain. Yes the Solari did horrible things, but her answer with "Kill em all!" isn't something a non-villain would do in my mind. Not even sure if she even tried to explain her actions to Leona. Yet she's still pretty damn sympathetic

Aatrox Still want to see how he effects Mt.Targon, the nation built around war.

Zed and Syndra...Honestly I just base their lore off that shipping webcomic until they get expanded lore. I really need to catch up on it. Left off where the master was going to reveal Syndra's powers background to both Shen and Zed.

Celio Hogane HD3 votes

What? NO, DIANA IS NOT A VILLAIN

SHe is not going full "KILL SOLARI" she is going the "i will show the true, if you think im still heretic im not going to let you live, im not idiot"

Ralanr13 votes

It's the, "I'm not going to let you live" part that kinda brings her into villain territory.

Kadavik6 votes

Although Zed and Syndra have a reason for their current mentality I can't really relate to either of them. Iv'e never had unlimited power or forbidden techniques within my grasp. I have however had my work stolen Viktor I've had to leave behind friends to save my skin TwistedFate and the other way around Graves .

Ebonmaw Dragon31 votes

{quoted}

Viktor Vladimir Draven Diana Graves TwistedFate Gangplank MissFortune TahmKench Shaco Sejuani Veigar

All of these champions are either the way they are because of tragic events or just plain evil yet hilarious and relatable. League has a couple of cliche villains here and there, yet not as many as you think.

Wait! Draaavenn is not a villain!

He kills PRISONERS, and prisoners are usually BAD GUYS... and he does it with STYLE

That makes him a HERO, a hero with STYLE.

ZeichiVos13 votes

By that logic, Alistar and Xin Zhao are villains, both having been kept as prisoners in Noxus.

Celio Hogane HD6 votes

Im fine with that.

RogueWill8 votes

For Noxians they are indeed villains. Remember that Demacia just proclame themselves justice is not like it was unanimous. The enemy heros are always your villains. Simple as that.

Rozzeta7 votes

Sejuani is the true queen of the Freljord. Don't talk crap about her, she already has to put up with the useless archer and the psyco witch.

Avious1 votes

{quoted}

Viktor Vladimir Draven Diana Graves TwistedFate Gangplank MissFortune TahmKench Shaco Sejuani Veigar

All of these champions are either the way they are because of tragic events or just plain evil yet hilarious and relatable. League has a couple of cliche villains here and there, yet not as many as you think.

Half of the champions you mentioned are not even close to being villains man... Draven, Diana, Sejuani and even MF are misunderstood and quite relateable. They are... Right?

Kadavik4 votes

Draven executes "guilty" prisioners for a living, that itself is not villianous. His attitude towards it is though. Sejuany is the only hope for the freiljord once Lissandra's plan starts moving forward, yet she is ruthless and brutal. Mf's parents were killed by Gangplank, yet after she "killed" him she still went out of her way to also murder every single person who had sided with him. Read her new story in the website. Diana was called a heretic and was almost executed by those she trusted, yet once she was free she swore to kill every single one of the Solari, even those who had nothing to do with her execution. One thing is for sure, they are definitely NOT heroes.

Galaxy King17 votes

Veigar: There's Veigar, I feel like hes that villain that wants to be evil and has a lot of power, but no matter what he fails and you feel bad for him, you would want to root for him and maybe he doesn't know what to do so hes doing this or that, the only person who can really understand him is lulu, who's just like him in someways, Veigar is just needs help.

500000000000000011 votes

You want to root the enemies for Veigar so he can land his combo.

Blade of Justic11 votes

Well, Xerath USED to be a tragic villain that people could really feel for, but instead, he was retconned into a mustache twirling Saturday morning villain.

A Superb Villain13 votes

I would say he is still pretty tragic, considering he was acting out of spite that had been building for years, and when he realized the level of destruction his actions would cause after Azir had given him, and every other slave in Shurima, freedom, he tried to avert disaster as best he could. Instead, the world he knew was reduced to dust, given power he never asked for, and vilified for his mistakes.

Peridition9 votes

I don't think black and white characterization is one of the things that LoL suffers from. In fact most of the characters are shades of gray with a new outliers being completely malevolent or benevolent

Gorgannan9 votes

Riven worked for Noxus, only really left because she got bombed, not because she disagreed with the ideals.

Heck, She hates Swain and Singed, and so does Katarina.

Vayne's a criminal vigilante law-breaking, but like Batman, we support her.

Karthus ! Straight up murderer, but look at his quotes and tell me he doesn't think he's doing the right thing/making people happier.

Ralanr8 votes

Actually he thinks he's doing the right thing. It's really subjective to himself.

Life bad. Death good. <---his logic.

Celio Hogane HD8 votes

well i think is more about

Death for ever = bad

Be an undead = good

Catastrop9 votes

Lissandra Excuse you! Don't be dissin on the homegirl like dat^Snaps Fingers^ And no she doesn't hate everything, she just wants to bring back her Higher Ups so they can conquer the world. How you got racist I don't really know, so please explain that part.

Jofeyy8 votes

Syndra only went horribly wrong because they tried to contain her instead of helping her grow and learn to use her powers.

Zed is the coolest villain ever. So cool in fact i hope he conquers ionia

Artificial Human2 votes

But Zed is not a Conquerer and i dont think he would be interested in that.

Celio Hogane HD2 votes

Zed is just there becoming strong because he can.

Marcia6 votes

Jinx Jinx is a pretty harmless villain, if she counts. She's destructive and chaotic, but she never really has any bad intentions. Morgana Morgana can be seen as a villain, she fell from grace and turned to dark magic to regain power. She doesn't get along with her sister, but otherwise she's a pretty nice person. She runs her own bakery outside of the league, that's pretty innocent in itself.

I guess it just sort of depends on what someone considers a villain.

500000000000000011 votes

One of Jinx's quotes is literally "I have the best intentions...said no one ever." She does not have good intentions, and she's pretty harmful, with destroying buildings and people.

Tails Doll4 votes

"Lets just behave... said no one ever"

That's the actual quote.

Evewynn30 votes

"Rules are made to be broken... like buildings! Or people!"

Jinx's utter disregard for life and property is almost textbook evil. Sure, she might not specifically go out of her way to kill others, but that doesn't mean she's any less evil.

hi im alphonse9 votes

Jinx? Harmless? Probably not. Considering, like others have said, her disregard for life shes probably killed SOME people when she was out blowing shit up. She IS kinda likeable, not in the sense of "I can relate to her and understand where shes coming from" (unless you do, im not judging), but more in the sense that "I hate her but shes so funny", kinda like Handsome Jack

FistOfSharkiesha13 votes

Morgana is not the slightest bit canonically evil. If anything Kayle is evil. Morgana did nothing wrong, she simply refused to take part in a conflict and Kayle shunned her because of it. Kayle seems to be one of those self-righteous people who turns out to be the tyrannical villain.

GhostOfShrimpmas1 votes

Jinx is a textbook definition of Chaotic Evil. Her only motivations are to destroy things and kill people.

BlackSunNocturne3 votes

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Jinx is a textbook definition of Chaotic Evil. Her only motivations are to destroy things and kill people.

Riot says she's Chaotic Neutral.

Also, by Dungeons and Dragons standards, a character who is completely and utterly insane can only be Chaotic Neutral, because they don't know right from wrong. Now, I'm no psychiatrist, but Jinx seems pretty insane.

Chaotic Evil people know they're doing wrong, and enjoy it Veigar

Also on the Demaica/Noxus thing:

Demacia is, essentially, a Fascist Monarchy nation. Noxus is a Meritocracy (or definitely on it's way to becoming one. If Darius had his way it already would be.). The problem with Noxus is the fact that the people in power are a bunch of assholes

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