Anyone else very hyped for the VGU list update?

Brutusness··96 votes·6,564 views

I know Urgot is almost certainly one but just having two confirmed champions getting visual and gameplay overhauls after Galio will be very nice. A lot of times it's pretty ambiguous about who's going to get a VGU but now we'll be certain about what's coming. Very excited for when this info drops.

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Big Lincoln65 votes

more exciting than new champs honestly

Sharjo33 votes

Indeed. New champs can be fun but seeing the old champs revitalised and brought up to the caliber that they truly deserve is just awesome every time.

Big Lincoln4 votes

i have hated most the champs from 2014 onward. except for bard and jhin, and illaoi who I don't care about

they've been very lackluster and repetitive. or outright infuriating to play vs

SteelMankind14 votes

Interesting opinion. I would say that most champs released in the past two years have had new and innovative features, such as Azir soldiers, Kindred ult, Aurelion passive, etc. Only old champs I can think of which match new champs in this regard are Yasuo and Orianna.

And ever since Riot killed tank Ekko, playing him is straight up the most fun I've ever had in League; I can't imagine whats not to like about his scrappy, mobile, bursty playstyle.

Big Lincoln7 votes

AurelionSol Kindred Taliyah are wasted potential, could have been much more interesting with the themes they all had but fall flat very hard for me

Ekko Gnar Kalista Camille cancer supreme

RekSai Illaoi Velkoz TahmKench are just boring and uninspired

h5LYF41Lam3 votes

common man illaoi is lit

Big Lincoln2 votes

Illaoi actually isn't boring but i don't like her gimmicky RNG passive shit

riot limits juggernauts way too much and their kits suffer for it

Xunthrae4 votes

its not really rng i feel like they spawn in the same place if you position properly to set up the tentacles (lennyface)

JoeMG22 votes

Gotta disagree about The Kench. Being able to straight up eat people is pretty entertaining

Big Lincoln5 votes

his eat is great but i find his Q and his ultimate to be sorely underwhelming

E is amusing just for having the second health bar

THE RlVER KlNG3 votes

He was a lot better before they gutted him in 6.13.

He's just a Devour bot bot lane now, top and jungle are near unplayable.

MrHaZeYo4 votes

Yas is a old champ? News to me.

junglerboy162 votes

yup, over 3 years old now, although Orianna has him beat at over 5 years old.

MrHaZeYo3 votes

Lol dam I've been playing this game awhile now.

I remember him being new.

A serial feeder2 votes

That moment when yasuo is now considered an old champ but you still consider him new [zombie-nunu-tears]

warpenguin55510 votes

Eve is probably after Urgot but I really wonder who is after them. Especially if the divers aren't the mid season update. Pantheon and Irelia not being eligible for 6 more months would make things interesting and I'm not sure who would take their places.

Brutusness12 votes

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Eve is probably after Urgot but I really wonder who is after them. Especially if the divers aren't the mid season update. Pantheon and Irelia not being eligible for 6 more months would make things interesting and I'm not sure who would take their places.

Hopefully Swain. They need to get to him considering he's one of the only champs blacklisted for skins.

50000000000000001 votes

Swain needs a rework? What's wrong with him?

Brutusness6 votes

Riot says his model is outdated so they will not make a skin until they have a new one, and that his playstyle does not match his character and theme.

Pimasterchampion1 votes

I want swain to remain a battle mage

I love his ult, and he isn't that op either

Brutusness3 votes

There's now way they could completely do away with the bird form. It's a pretty huge part of his appeal.

50000000000000007 votes

It's probably difficult to preserve his battlemage identity and make him more like a Master Tactician, though. One says go in, and one says stay back.

Nymzo2 votes

Honestly, I think it would be better if Riot would just remove his title of a ''Master tactician''.

They should give that to a future champion and call the ''General Raven of Noxus'' or something.

50000000000000001 votes

That'd be such a simple way to solve his theme/gameplay mismatch. If he gets a VU, I guess that's alright. I feel like there are other champs higher on the priority though.

Wordofmask2 votes

It's not as easy as that. The themetic mismatch isn't just his title/gameplay but his lore too.

In term of gameplay, His kit have problems in itself. Riot feels his kit design are all over the place.

Wyrmblade1 votes

<The Raven King> would be fucking baller.

Spice POWAH5 votes

Birdmaster Swain

the weeaboo10 votes

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Pimasterchampion5 votes

supposed to be a man and fight

stays away from team and enemy by splitting

IceKingChernobog10 votes

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Plz Tryndamere

His kit rn is so toxic and outdated. His particles are shit. And he doesn't even work thematically, he should be a big clunky warrior not some punk swinging his Crit-dildo faster than Palpatine took over the senate

Crit dildo. Give this man a cookie, no, give him 10 cookies!

TzQGRUST399 votes

I doubt it, but I'm hoping for Pantheon.

Garentheon2 votes

Me and you both brother

Ralanr2 votes

The three of us!

GhaelWinds2 votes

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I doubt it, but I'm hoping for Pantheon.

Theres so much you could do with Pantheon that i'd be hyped

Onkel Malte8 votes

I'd love to see so many of them. I think the most promising one could beIrelia even if she's in a good spot, but a rework could make a cool "telekinetic blade woman" Urgot Aatrox and Mordekaiser need it the most. Pantheon Nunu would need some love. Tryndamere definetly needs work. Akali Evelynn Shaco there have been rumors about those 3 but since the assassin update happened my hopes are gone.

Sexy Jack Rabbit4 votes

Evelynn's rework is a case of severely bad Game health, hence why she's so far up the VGU Priority list. Permanent Stealth/Camouflage can kind of limit counterplay, which Riot has suddenly become obsessed with as of November last year.

Akali and Shaco are however cases moreso similar to Irelia. They aren't necessarily in bad spots, (heck Shaco is almost a top tier jungler) but just in need for some new fantasy in their kits and character.

GreenLore4 votes

Aatrox doesn't really need a VGU. I mean his ingame model and design are fine,so he only needs a gameplay update and divers might even be the next class update.

Also it was said that the changes to the 3 assassins during the assassin-update were pretty much just bandaids for the time between the assassin-update and their eventual VGUs(the same was done with Swain ),it actually looks like Eve is one of the top candidates for a VGU at the moment,because they feel like her theme is lacking and that gameplaywise she is kind of a mess right now(she is supposed to be an assassin,yet she is usually played as a diver)

Stars Shaper6 votes

My hopes would be Aatrox and Mordekaiser

Chase Me Daddy9 votes

Aatrox won't get one. He'll be put into one of the class updates because his overall theme and visuals are up to the standard. I would love to see Mordekaiser though. He could be so cool if he's done right. This time without pizza feet, a clunky attempt of making him an botlane juggernaut and a dragon that's just there to give him power that was taken away from elsewhere. Oh and of course he'd finally look badass and maybe have more and better hidden metal references.

Winterkill6 votes

No I am not. I hate to be that Debbie Downer and I am happy for all of the mains of these champions that are getting a VGU. I just am disappointed with Riot's work on my main for the past 4 years and zero communication. I think it will be Urgot, Eve and then Irelia.

I wish it was Karma or even a mini rework. Feel free to read Riot's treatment and work on her since four years ago. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/UjzIverq-meddler-reav3-the-karma-injustice-of-2013-and-continued-injustice-of-2017?

Garentheon3 votes

I say Urgot and Evelynn but I secretly wish for Pantheon

Fowus3 votes

especially hyped for Udyr's

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

So hyped. I will be a little surprised if one of them isn't Urgot... but I wouldn't count on it.

Riot has said many times in the past that they let designers pitch a good idea and direction for a champ in these cases. When someone has a vision, they can jump someone up the list. Currently, my top 3 guesses are...

  1. Urgot
  2. Evelynn
  3. Mordekaiser

There a lot that don't make it on that list, too, like Akali. There are a lot of champs that would benefit from a rework. But I wouldn't bet my life on any of those that I mentioned making it. There are a lot of champs to choose from.

VelvetCrotch1 votes

Source?^^

Dat Kat1 votes

Did they list all the champs they're going to give VGU for? If so, can somebody post them here?

I'm only hoping Caitlyn Evelynn Leblanc Lux Janna Morgana Mordekaiser are on the list because their in game models are super weird and tiny in most cases, they don't fit with the new champion line designs at all.

And for those who will butthurt over lux, I'm speaking about their base skins only. That also applies for Udyr and Ezreal . Their base models are weird. Poor ezreal has the same problem on his ultimate skin too anyways.

Billy VoHagen3 votes

That would just be a Visual update, a VGU is like Taric, Poppy, or Sion.

GreenLore2 votes

They once gave us a list of champs who are planned to get a VGU,however that was a long time ago and since then more champions have been added to the list. From what we know the list consists of: Akali Amumu Chogath Corki DrMundo Evelynn Fiddlesticks Galio Irelia Mordekaiser Nocturne Nunu Pantheon Rammus Shaco Swain Teemo Tryndamere Urgot Volibear Kayle & Morgana will be updated together

Though we don't know if these are all the champions that are on this list(however we do know that galio will be next and I've read that Urgot is now in the works as well)

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/riot-official/uTEZqLz9-chromas-yorick-and-champ-mastery-in-ask-riot?comment=000c0000000e0000000000000000000000010000

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/Aa02NmcX-i-feel-like-we-need-to-do-vus-by-themselves-again?comment=00040000

Dat Kat2 votes

Thanks! That list was more than I expected tbh. Shit, why are they even still bothering with new champs when they know they got a list of a lot of champs they need to work on. . . it's really strange how riot deals with things sometimes.

I'll be waiting for the day they work on Kayle & Morgana.

GreenLore2 votes

Yeah its quite a lot. They said that according to their data new champion releases are still valued more by the players,so there is currently still more focus on those than updates. However they also said that VGUs are gaining popularity and that they will likely decrease the rate of new champion releases so that they can make more VGUs instead in the future.

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