Galio Lore / New Lore(s) / Why? / Is this really needed? / Lazy Writing

NikeyMoney··4 votes·4,476 views

Hmm,

So I am not a hard core player of this game however I do enjoy it and did spend time last year getting to level 30.

What I do (and still do) love is creative back story and character depth. What I do miss about modern Hollywood including new Starwars / Marvel / DC / movies in general is deep motivating well flushed out humanity and conflict that drives me to care and feel for the creations of the mind which help me to escape my otherwise boring and sub par life.

So when I found Galio two years ago, I couldn't put him down. I love Gargoyles with a passion. I went to school for Art / History and Literature and focused a majority of my junior year on the dark ages - romance period. I have always had a thing for Esmerelda and been a big fan of the movie Hunchback of Notre Dame.

And immediately I mastered Galio when mastery was available. Sona was my first main because I bought her DJ skin when I created my account but Galio was the first champion to make me want to keep playing to the point of neglecting my work and studies.

This is why I am creating this post now, I noticed in the past these reworks come with "newer , more lazy, and far less thought up lores" and honestly when I was told a rumor of Galio being reworked I never thought his story would get changed as well.

What was wrong with it?

Now it is dull ... now it makes him seem like a big dumb magical wall.

I used to think how cool it was, the loyalty of a Gollum / Gargoyle created by some mysterious wizard yet to be flushed out into the lore.

The idea of until the last breath but in a Golem. Poppy a lonely warier headed to Damancia stumbling (as if by Fate!) upon a statue only to have her Hammers magic somehow reawaken Galio and give him a new purpose to guard Damacia from the evil magics of Runterra and swear aligeince to the bitter end protecting his new friend Poppy!

Now he is just some dumb over sized tower that only wakes up when magic approaches....

It's pathetic.

I could care less about the fact you changed all of his abilities (Even if his ult LITERALLY turned him into stone which was AWESOME) ...

but why did you have to water down such a creative lore?

I recognize you could care less about me but still I feel the need to vent and seek any others out there who may also relate and or feel the same about their favorite champions which may have already or may soon be next to the chopping block....

I am sad. Also I find the new reworked in game grafix to be an eyesore but eben this I do not care about as much as the fact his lore was actually something I had anchored into my heart and grown to love.

Truly, I feel a bit violated inside because I really loved the story of loyalty and friendship which now has been thrown aside for what seems to be a single minded linier focus on professional gameplay at the stake of everything else.

TL;DR

Old Galio Lore had depth and was a tale of loyalty and friendship which inspired me and made me wish to be a better human being.

New Galio lore is stale, lazy, and uninspiring.

-NikeMoney a short time player which mains Galio from love of Gargoyles and nothing else.

*walks away to buy bleach and consider drinking it. what's life without passion.

34 Comments

Ebonmaw Dragon11 votes

I didnt knew that you were able to read the complete lore that has not been fully released yet... Please time lord, give us knowledge about the future of the lore.

NikeyMoney4 votes

Sure thing, can do.

"Looming brazen above Demacia's walls, the colossus stands with silent lips. The elders tell of ages past, when the mighty man stirred to defend the huddled masses. Many doubt these legends. But—like imprisoned lightning—the colossus is waiting. And when he's most needed, he'll stretch his conquering limbs again."

Source - Riot's newest article.

Ebonmaw Dragon8 votes

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Sure thing, can do.

"Looming brazen above Demacia's walls, the colossus stands with silent lips. The elders tell of ages past, when the mighty man stirred to defend the huddled masses. Many doubt these legends. But—like imprisoned lightning—the colossus is waiting. And when he's most needed, he'll stretch his conquering limbs again."

Source - Riot's newest article.

I said: "complete lore"

When Riot Upgrades and/or releases a Champion, they make at least 3 pieces of lore for the champion: Color Story, Biography and a Short summary for the client... the thing that you posted is the summary, not the complete lore.

Here is an example of Warwick:

http://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/champion/warwick http://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/champion/warwick/ http://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/warwick-color-story/

All those stories are put on the Universe Page after the release of the champion, not before.

lightdragoon889 votes

It amazing how people say Riot gutten the lore when all they read is the short summary and never the complete lore and color stories.

Lanceworks3 votes

Hell, most of the people who say that don't even read the summaries either.

NikeyMoney2 votes

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I said: "complete lore"

When Riot Upgrades and/or releases a Champion, they make at least 3 pieces of lore for the champion: Color Story, Biography and a Short summary for the client... the thing that you posted is the summary, not the complete lore.

Here is an example of Warwick:

http://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/champion/warwick http://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/champion/warwick/ http://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/warwick-color-story/

All those stories are put on the Universe Page after the release of the champion, not before.

with all due respect....am I wrong or did they not change Warwick from being a cursed werewolf into a chimera?

As a matter of fact call me crazy but also was not Singed actually the scientist Warwicks apprentice before he was cursed?

Apologies if I am wrong about his entire lore being changed....

Ebonmaw Dragon4 votes

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with all due respect....am I wrong or did they not change Warwick from being a cursed werewolf into a chimera?

As a matter of fact call me crazy but also was not Singed actually the scientist Warwicks apprentice before he was cursed?

Apologies if I am wrong about his entire lore being changed....

This is hard to answer because... you are wrong and right at the same time.

The lore that you mention about Warwick being a scientist that was cursed by Soraka was changed in 2012... After that, he became a Hunter of Zaun that was transformed into a beast by Singed.

Considering that, the new lore of Warwick actually kept the part of the lore about Singed turning Warwick into a beast... the only difference is that this time was unwillingly... like Soraka did in the first lore. And in fact, the new lore also took into account the incident in the JoJ where he was caught and a scientist experimented on him.


Also, Riot already mentioned that Durand still his creator in the new lore... and in his new VO he mentions that Poppy is friend of him.

NikeyMoney1 votes

this makes sense as I did not know much of that. So Warwicks lore was changed twice now it seems.

Well, personally I like Lycanthropy and curses more than experiments I also appreciate the lore of Sion , Singed, and Noxius In general and by all means cannot say that Warwick being an experiment definitely fits right into the Noxian way of life and evil science to gain power.

However, Sorakka now seems out of place as she was tied into Warwick it seems ... it would be as if Kayle and Morgana ceased to be siblings.

I understand that Durand is still Galio's creator, and that Poppy still his friend...however this is not my problem with changing the lore.

My issue is with the fact Durand made MANY constructs / sigils / golems / etc ... and in fact Galio was simply his greatest creation / the peak of his ability and MOST importantly ... his Body Guard.

So I much prefer the idea of this new champion being the Colossus which inspired a young Durand to become an artificer to begin with as opposed to what seems to be where they are heading.

This Colossus is far to big in size to possibly be able to travel along side Durand...

I am sorry but this is simply a lazy rework of lore to me where as the way you have now explained Warwick to me seems much more fair to his original story with the exception of the previously stated Sorakka.

Ebonmaw Dragon5 votes

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this makes sense as I did not know much of that. So Warwicks lore was changed twice now it seems.

Well, personally I like Lycanthropy and curses more than experiments I also appreciate the lore of Sion , Singed, and Noxius In general and by all means cannot say that Warwick being an experiment definitely fits right into the Noxian way of life and evil science to gain power.

However, Sorakka now seems out of place as she was tied into Warwick it seems ... it would be as if Kayle and Morgana ceased to be siblings.

I understand that Durand is still Galio's creator, and that Poppy still his friend...however this is not my problem with changing the lore.

My issue is with the fact Durand made MANY constructs / sigils / golems / etc ... and in fact Galio was simply his greatest creation / the peak of his ability and MOST importantly ... his Body Guard.

So I much prefer the idea of this new champion being the Colossus which inspired a young Durand to become an artificer to begin with as opposed to what seems to be where they are heading.

This Colossus is far to big in size to possibly be able to travel along side Durand...

I am sorry but this is simply a lazy rework of lore to me where as the way you have now explained Warwick to me seems much more fair to his original story with the exception of the previously stated Sorakka.

Yeah, there are many things that are left out of place with the reworks and updates of the lore... in fact, when the first change to the lore of Warwick was made, Riot did not upgrade the lore of Singed.

The thing is that we have to be patient before jumping into conclusions (Like what people did when the lore of Jayce was updated and everyone went crazy before looking at he lore of Viktor)

NikeyMoney1 votes

I do not know anything about that it was before I started playing this game. But to me it is more about the fact I love Gargoyles and Galio was certainly believable as "made in the image of" where as now it seems like they just want to work around it all without considering that instead ... they could have kept some of him the same.

I do not mind reworking his abilities in fact since he is pretty much the only champ I play I welcome the idea of an entirely new design (except I do miss the fact his R actually turned him into stone while he channeled it).

But the story is so good already. I do not feel as if they have to change it.

That was my entire point in posting this... asking why they must change his story as is.

Why must he suddenly become this GIANT colossus as if they feel that because he has new abilities he much then require a new story when in reality I doubt many people even read his old one.

Why not instead flush out his already awesome lore if they simply could not handle copy / pasting the original.

And then in fact create a new champion and make THAT champ into this "colossus" instead.

The idea of hearing the next chapter in Galio and Poppy ... when they return to Damacia as she seeks her hero and he follows his new sense of purpose.

I can imagine Poppy finally discovering her new "shadow" following behind her into Damacia at the gates witnessing this Giant colossus and saying "Hey Statue I have seen you following me it is okay look up at this the Colossus of Damancia the Oldest protection against Magic ... you know, it looks a lot like you ... you could very well be family" and then to have Lux come by and explain the story of a Colossus which only wakes up when only the most dangerous and destructive of magic threatens Damacia" ...

And then maybe some day come out with some super mage of Noxius which activates the Colossus and it witnesses Galio stating something along the lines of "Little brother!" you and me are the same! ...

or whatever...idk it's not my job to make lore I simply feel in love with Galio's and now feel a bit violated as they seem to not care at all.

Grimm Howl2 votes

He was talking about the most recent rework released, and how they rolled out his Lore.

Yes, Warwick changed lore wise, but he's still within the same core thematic. A creature on the hunt. He's less of an incomplete result that's out for Soraka's heart to be whole because he took his own potion to early, and now is the results of Singed's experiments on him to bring out the beast dormant inside mankind.

Galio is still a stoic guardian of Demacia, but instead of being awakened and given a new purpose and hope to protect. He is now a Demacia's architectural take on what a gargoyle is withing the world of Runeterra, built to colossal proportions, that can ever only be awake to defend the city state from magical attacks, before his falls back to sleep for another couple decades after he extinguishes the threat.

NikeyMoney1 votes

yes this sadly seems to be the case....however, unlike Warwick which by all means maintains core concepts fair to his old lore and only slightly seems to alter his story (aside from eliminating lycanthropy which is something I personally find more interesting as Sion already covers Singeds' crazy Frankenstein needs and poor Sorakka now makes less sense accordingly) ...

Galio was the final and best creation of Durand and in fact his personal body guard something by no means this "colossus" could possibly do.

We can agree to disagree or you can come over to my side of the table but either way to me .... this new Galio story line is looking very weak, incredibly lazy and entirely rushed.

How much better it would be to have the Colossus of Damacia be in fact the inspiration of a young Durand to become an artificer because of how grand, and powerful the last line of magical defense for Damacia was ...

in the current lore Durand created constructs (plural) extending the borders of Damacia and protecting the smaller villages ...

doesn't this make sense to anybody ?

I cannot understand how it does not.

Grimm Howl2 votes

Soraka is most likely getting a lore update when they tackle Ionia.

From what Riot Reav3 revealed on Reddit, Durand is still a key character in the upcoming new lore for Galio. Instead of constructing multiple sentinels, maybe Durand invested all of his materials into creating one large hulking construct. We'll find out that answer in the following week I'm sure.

I agree that Galio's live lore is compelling and deep, but you can't say the new lore for updated Galio is weak, lazy, and rushed based on a simple summary.

NikeyMoney1 votes

I can and I did. and I will do it again. It is weak, lazy, and obviously a rush job.

Sorry but you just don't get it. They had no need to change the lore.

There was obviously something goin on why else does the voice over work on this new "galio" say things about being vs another construct, or that this other construct looks like him...

my idea is way better having this Colossus of Damacia be an inspiration to a young Durand than what they are going to try and force down peoples throats.

Glad to hear Rakka is getting the uneesicary new story ... might as well. While we are at it let's just do it for the entire repertoire.

Far as I am concerned Katerina is now Garens long lost sister and they are in a relationship all the while J4 killed his dad and stole the crown and while we are at it Willump killed Nunu's parents and kidnaped him.

Grimm Howl4 votes

Alright, let me start with this. You have no idea what his new lore story will be about based off a single paragraph. He has two other stories being released that are between 5 to 8 paragraphs just like the rest of the champions with current lore.

Soraka does in fact need a lore update, and it is in no way at all "unnecessary." How can it be with the removal of Warwick being linked to her. If it wasn't for defending herself, she would never have lost her immortality, and outcast. All of the old champions are getting new lore. They've done it with Shurima, Piltover/Zaun, Bilgewater, and they aren't stopping. Riot has been working on this for the past couple of years. Getting stories on track, updated, and in their new format, etc.

I'm a huge lore junky, and following the lore Riot has compiled since 2012 when I started playing, and I embraced the retcon to remove summoners, the Institute of War, and the lot of it with open arms. It's not our company, not our characters, and certainly not our intellectual property. We can not dictate what they can do with their characters, and we can't judge a change before you been able to read/play it in game.

Don't go on tangents straying from the core of the subject. That's just showing me that you're having a fit that it's not the way you want it. Garen and Katarina have been shipped by members of the community as a couple, and certainly it's never been incest based. I know you're trying to prove a point with the examples of J4 and Nunu, and yes those would be some ridiculous changes. That isn't what has happened to Galio though, and we won't know what or how much has changed until his lore is released.

He's a colossal sized Demacian take on a gargoyle/sentinel constructed by Durand, that watches over the city-state, and only ever activates when magic is nearby. That is all we know. So please, just be patient. It's better to judge/critic something as a whole than based off a mere fragment.

midnight oil248 votes

That is not his full lore. That's a summary.

And if you listened to his VO, he's clearly got a big existential crisis going on.

NikeyMoney1 votes

I did listen to it. Especially enjoyed the part where it blatantly says it is not the only construct and also mentions the construct looks like himself...

It's my opinion that Riot's team was making a different champ and instead decided to be lazy with Galion's rework and swap it out for said new champ.

lightdragoon883 votes

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Yet again we have another person who thinks the short summary is the only "lore" Riot does now while never reading the full story they release.

NikeyMoney1 votes

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[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Yet again we have another person who thinks the short summary is the only "lore" Riot does now while never reading the full story they release.

I did not say that at all....

Grimm Howl1 votes

I was about to ask the same thing when reading this post. Glad someone said it first.

Variks the Loyal4 votes

"Goin' ta sleep means sayin' goodbye..."

"They made me to stop magic, and yet I hate when it's gone."

"I'm not sure why life chose me, but I'm glad it did."

Yeah, keep pretending that 1), there's no depth there, and 2), he isn't still melancholic because he only gets to experience the joy of life a little bit every few centuries.

midnight oil242 votes

Honestly, when I heard his full VO I teared up a bit. And I'm teh most apathetic and disconnected person you're likely to meet. The way he speaks, the pain he's clearly going through, are sad and slightly beautiful in how they portray his character.

So obviously I needed to detox.

Kled Holy #### where are we?!

NikeyMoney1 votes

[{quoted}](name=midnight oil24,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=hzbOn8pJ,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-03-09T02:21:55.312+0000)

Honestly, when I heard his full VO I teared up a bit. And I'm teh most apathetic and disconnected person you're likely to meet. The way he speaks, the pain he's clearly going through, are sad and slightly beautiful in how they portray his character.

So obviously I needed to detox.

Kled Holy #### where are we?!

I agree his new Voice Overs are great, his new kit doesn't really bother me either (except for the removal of him turning to stone when channeling his ultimate attack).

But I feel this truly is not Galio but an entirely different champion.

I'd much rather this "Collosus" be the Inspiration which the mysterious wizard used when creating his body guard.

Imagine the lore of when Poppy and her new friend Galio finally reached Damacia and Galio layd eyes for the first time upon his "big" brother.

But I do agree, the voice over certainly did give me the feels as well. Just not the same way the first time I discovered Galio did.

midnight oil242 votes

Trust me. As a person who's lost many friends, often just by me not being around for a bit of time, and someone who loves fisticuff-type fighters, this Galio is perfect to me. And Durand still made Galio. It was confirmed by a rioter.

NikeyMoney1 votes

Mmm, I will wait for the final release but as I feel now it is better to have this colossus as the inspiration for the mysterious wizards body guard .... as Gargoyles are never the size which they have made this new thing to be. And also traditionally they are crouched and four legged, demonic , and meant to ward off evil ... I much prefer this idea.

Having Poppy discover a statue only to accidently wake it up and have fate bring the two together.

A tale of loneliness , fate, and friendship. Loyalty and magic.

Whaillord123454 votes

You know a gargoyle can be anything. A rabbit, wolf, dragon. Just a stone statue of an animal of sorts. Gargoyles are often thought to look like demons, but can be anything

NikeyMoney1 votes

{quoted}

"Goin' ta sleep means sayin' goodbye..."

"They made me to stop magic, and yet I hate when it's gone."

"I'm not sure why life chose me, but I'm glad it did."

Yeah, keep pretending that 1), there's no depth there, and 2), he isn't still melancholic because he only gets to experience the joy of life a little bit every few centuries.

mmm, agree to disagree. While some may be easily satisfied (you) others are not (me) ...

I much prefer his old lore and shall regrettably remain in a state of discontent until the new lore is released but so far all signs point to a sub par story and removing his entire journey to Damacia with Durand his Mysterious Wizard companions murder and inability to protect .... followed by his accidental discovery by Poppy (as if by fate) and in turn new sense of purpose fighting the evils along side his new friend Poppy.

The Anagram King3 votes

Galio is a superhero made to appeal to a large target audience. You aren't going to get support for a revert. Riot shouldn't've been so callous as to delete an identity and moveset in favour of creating a brand new champion, but they did. And so Galio is a superhero.

I'm not a Galio player, but I've fought him enough to know that new Galio keeps nothing of old Galio's playstyle or identity. It's a brand new champion; saved over the Galio slot.

if they did something like this to Viktor, I would just up and quit. So I can totally empathise (It's borderline mean!). I've no idea why they took this approach. Is there a market benefit to replacing Galio with his less-niche stepbrother? :P

NikeyMoney2 votes

thank you for your compassion and I totally agree.

I feel as if Riot was working on a new champion and then decided to instead use it as the new galio.

Galio was Durands greatest construct and his body guard no way this colossus could be the same Galio ... and in the voice work it even says things about being vs another construct as well as how another construct is like him.

It's a damn shame they have to be so lazy with this game/

I get the fact Galio was underplayed and even the fact they want to change the entire kit but really...the lore did not need to be changed there was no reason to remove the story of loss, fate, friendship, loyalty, purpose and even a touch of self doubt.

The Anagram King2 votes

I do think a company should have the integrity to own a concept, and try to please their fanbase - even if only through compromise. What they did to Galio was remove one identity, entirely, to replace it with another.

And that was cruel.

The role is no longer the same, the visuals are no longer the same. The way he glides about is gone; as is kit and playstyle. Riot has the power and authority to do this stuff, but does that make it okay? That's the question, I think.

Lanceworks2 votes

Nothing like watching two people circlejerk each other .

runrunTJ2 votes

{quoted}

What I do (and still do) love is creative back story and character depth. What I do miss about modern Hollywood including new Starwars / Marvel / DC / movies in general is deep motivating well flushed out humanity and conflict that drives me to care and feel for the creations of the mind which help me to escape my otherwise boring and sub par life. So when I found Galio two years ago, I couldn't put him down. I love Gargoyles with a passion. I went to school for Art / History and Literature and focused a majority of my junior year on the dark ages - romance period. I have always had a thing for Esmerelda and been a big fan of the movie Hunchback of Notre Dame. I used to think how cool it was, the loyalty of a Gollum / Gargoyle created by some mysterious wizard yet to be flushed out into the lore. The idea of until the last breath but in a Golem. Poppy a lonely warierheaded to Damancia stumbling (as if by Fate!) upon a statue only to have her Hammers magic somehow reawaken Galio and give him a new purpose to guard Damacia from the evil magics of Runterra and swear aligeince to the bitter end protecting his new friend Poppy! I am sad. Also I find the new reworked in game grafix to be an eyesore but eben this I do not care about as much as the fact his lore was actually something I had anchored into my heart and grown to love. Truly, I feel a bit violated inside because I really loved the story of loyalty and friendship which now has been thrown aside for what seems to be a single minded linier focus on professional gameplay at the stake of everything else.

I just want to point out the following errors, I probably missed some

NikeyMoney1 votes

Other than the intentional "grafix" you would be correct. not that it matters all that much I appreciate it, would you add something of merit to my personal take on the rework if I made the effort to fix these errors?

lightdragoon881 votes

Hey in case you are still caring: His full story came out today.

http://universe.leagueoflegends.com/en_US/story/champion/galio/

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