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League has great lore why waste it.

TouchNotMyWaifu··6 votes·1,154 views

The only time lore ever progresses or changes is when a new champ is released or reworked and when no champ reworks or new champs interact with their lore it never changes. Ashe has been trying to conquer the Freiljord for years and we haven't had any updates or changes in the lore since she was released. Azir has been trying to revive Shurima for some time now and we have no idea how its going. League has lots of awesome lore in a awesome world and its sad to see it go to waste. I really haven't had any great ideas on how to make the lore more fluid but ill share some of the ones I've had. Since the League Of Legends is pretty much a mix between Mortal Kombat and roman gladiators. Imagine in worlds each country is assigned a country in Runetera. What ever country in Runetera won that country progresses in wars and their lore progresses massively in general. As an example Noxus and Ionia are at war so if Noxus won they would gain ground. At the end of the season every nations lore would progress. Like Azir begins to revive Shurima and gets further every year. And if the lore reaches an end point they could throw in a conflict. Like imagine in several years Ashe unites the Freljord but then the 3 ice gods return and Lissandra begins to wage war against Ashe's empire. It would be like a Bildgewater event every pre season but without the game mode and map just the lore changes. As a writer it bothers me that such a colorful world with so much conflict just stays static for years upon years. If Riot would give the right to right to write a book I would as well lol. What do you guys think of a more dynamic lore. IMO it would increase immersion there for increase fun. If you guys have any ideas please share them and hopefully Riot will see one and maybe consider it.

PS. This is like my third post and I haven't slept for two days so sorry for the misspelling and chaos.

13 Comments

GreenLore1 votes

I actually think that GP and Mf got a rework because of the bilgewater event,not the other way around. So in that case we didn't get new lore because of a new champ or rework,but we got the reworks because of the new lore.

Also last years harrowing came without a new champ,yet it gave us more information about the harrowing than any others before.

Overall the thing is that riots lore team is slow,so I think it is not a matter of "they don't want to deliver more lore",but more along the lines of "they can't deliver it any faster".

Narasimha1 votes

I actually think that GP and Mf got a rework because of the bilgewater event,not the other way around.

Actually, in this case, I think it would be the latter. GP's rework has been long in coming, and its not like MF really had a significant rework anyway. It seems entirely fair for them to think "Hey, we have a major and a minor rework coming up. Why not make an event around it?"

GreenLore1 votes

they did do VUs for Sejuani Trundle Cassiopeia Renekton for the respective events(I guess Nasus&Sivir were also done with the shurima event in mind),so why would it be different this time around? Would be kinda silly if all those "just happen" to be finished around the time the event was planned.

Narasimha1 votes

Would be kinda silly if all those "just happen" to be finished around the time the event was planned.

Not really. That's why it's planning, and thats why you have deadlines. It's no different than producing a project for any other company.

GreenLore1 votes

You said the event could have been made because of the GP-/MF-vus,but so far every other event came with 2 VUs,despite the fact that these events were not based around the VUs. So why would it be different for the bilgewater event?

In the end I think it is possible that the GP-VU was the thing that inspired them to do a bilgewater event,but we can't be sure if they did the event because of the VU,or if they did the VU because of the event.

Narasimha1 votes

You said the event could have been made because of the GP-/MF-vus,but so far every other event came with 2 VUs,despite the fact that these events were not based around the VUs. So why would it be different for the bilgewater event?

You're looking at it backwards. The VU might not be the main point of the event, but having an event is the best time to reveal the VU. It's simply too unlikely that they would plan otherwise.

GreenLore1 votes

Whats so unlikely about: 1.Decide where to put the next event&which champs are gonna be involved 2.Think about who is from that region/involved with the event and could use a VU.

Narasimha1 votes

Because thats entirely backwards. Have you ever worked with a company? You don't make a big picture for the small ones. You first look at your inventory, say "This is what we have to work with", and structure around that.

In this case, it'd be "Ok, we have a few VUs coming up from this lore area. Why not put a timeline together to release them simultaneously, and make an event out of it?" I mean, do you HONESTLY think they'd say "Heres a lore place coming up, lets make some VUs relating to it."? That doesn't make sense at ALL. You'd have to take designers away from what they're working on and move them to an unrelated project. That's completely inefficient.

GreenLore1 votes

Yes that does make sense,you decide which kind of place you want to make an event for and then you decide what you'll develop for this event. You look at the different nations,look what kind of opportunities you have for each of them(what champs can be updated what could be the story about,etc.) and then start working towards that event,releasing it only once everything is done.

I mean if it were like you say,wouldn't it have made much more sense to base the event around Tahm Kench?You know the first bilgewater related champ that we got ever since nautilus in season2?Who was released shortly before the event and had absolutely nothing to do with it?

Also the event directly affected Gps update,they considered the events of the burning tides already when they made the GP-VU,as they needed to make a pre-plank GP and a post-plank GP,meaning that the story was already planned out to some extent when they started to work on GP.

Narasimha1 votes

Yes that does make sense,you decide which kind of place you want to make an event for and then you decide what you'll develop for this event. You look at the different nations,look what kind of opportunities you have for each of them(what champs can be updated what could be the story about,etc.) and then start working towards that event,releasing it only once everything is done.

Both Heim and Trist got seperate VUs. As per YOUR logic, there should have been a Bandle city event already. But... there wasn't. Why? Becuase you don't plan the event first. You throw it in as a culmination for things already in place.

mean if it were like you say,wouldn't it have made much more sense to base the event around Tahm Kench?You know the first bilgewater related champ that we got ever since nautilus in season2?Who was released shortly before the event and had absolutely nothing to do with it?

Tahm isn't really any more affiliated with Bilgewater than any other nation/area. He gets around a lot.

Also the event directly affected Gps update,they considered the events of the burning tides already when they made the GP-VU,as they needed to make a pre-plank GP and a post-plank GP,meaning that the story was already planned out to some extent when they started to work on GP.

This is perhaps true, though I favor the other view. Captain Gangplank was more of a 'temporary skin' than a two-part VU. It's safer to assume that the new GP was always meant to be the final one, and that the Captain skin was thrown in to make people who liked the old GP happy.

GreenLore1 votes

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Both Heim and Trist got seperate VUs. As per YOUR logic, there should have been a Bandle city event already. But... there wasn't. Why? Becuase you don't plan the event first. You throw it in as a culmination for things already in place.

I dunno how you get that idea.In fact that would be YOUR logic. YOU say that they base events around opportunities,so making a bandle city event when they are doing yordle vus anyway would seem logical based on YOUR arguementation.

I say that if they'd do a bandle city event they'd choose the event place first and then they'd look at what champs could need a VU. That doesn't mean that they do VUs just for events,if that would be the case,then they'd never get anything done.

Tahm isn't really any more affiliated with Bilgewater than any other nation/area. He gets around a lot.

Tahm Kenchs appearance&name do change from place to place,but his current form is the one from bilgewater. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/miscellaneous/Ts4NEAq5-champion-qa-tahm-kench-the-river-king?show=flat&comment=00070001 There was also a tahm kench figurine on the bilgewater event sites.

This is perhaps true, though I favor the other view. Captain Gangplank was more of a 'temporary skin' than a two-part VU. It's safer to assume that the new GP was always meant to be the final one, and that the Captain skin was thrown in to make people who liked the old GP happy.

Have you read the GP-design article?They talk about how they needed to design "pre-plank" and "post-plank" and how they considered the change in character for gp,how his design would change,etc.based around what happened in the event. They were quite aware that postplank would be GP after everything was taken from him,while preplank would be the ruler of bilgewater.

kneel on Ice1 votes

Waiting for Freljord updates for 2 years Lissandra item 3070

Dextix LT1 votes

Answer to the title question. Because lore on its own doesnt bring money. It only brings money on events.

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