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Why didn't Gangplank kill Miss Fortune?

Knalxz··1 votes·4,374 views

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't she a well known pirate hunter?

Se probably killed alot of GP's crew over her 15 years of hunting him and her time as an infamous hunter. It just begs the question that GP would send his best men, to stop TF and Graves from rampaging but do nothing to the person who's been causing him pain for nearly a decade. That seems to be a massive loop hole in this story.

Also, who's in control of Bligewater? there is a bounty board and what pop culture might have you believe bounty hunters are people of the law. Who is the one making the laws of Bligewater?

seems to be some pretty big plot holes that need filling and not going to lie, I think Riot wrote themselves into a corner yet again. This just doesn't make any sense on how GP died and kind of sucked a bit of faith (atleast from me) in Riot's future updates of the lore.

This is the first real lore update for the game (not dissing the Shurima but it didn't really update just retold) and a bit flawed.

One last thing, how did Miss Fortune rebuild her mother's pistols? Did her mother just make great designs on guns or did she make complicated master pieces of weapons? I thought it was the latter with how it was described but yet MF manged to rebuild them, so are they just good looking guns or are they something else?

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Duke Anax3 votes

MF is a Bounty Hunter, not a Pirate Hunter. And she is based in Bilgewater herself.

The way I understood it, she brings in Bounties for Bilgewater. So in a fashion she is actually working for the pirates some of the time, probably even for Gangplank.

Gangplank actually didn't have much animossity against MF beyond her being another infamous Captain. MF made it a point not to openly confront Gangplank. He never even knew that she was that little girl that he shot along with her family 15 years ago.

Knalxz2 votes

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MF is a Bounty Hunter, not a Pirate Hunter. And she is based in Bilgewater herself.

The way I understood it, she brings in Bounties for Bilgewater. So in a fashion she is actually working for the pirates some of the time, probably even for Gangplank.

Gangplank actually didn't have much animossity against MF beyond her being another infamous Captain. MF made it a point not to openly confront Gangplank. He never even knew that she was that little girl that he shot along with her family 15 years ago.

Oh, ok I get you, sort of like how Boba hated Vader.

Melancholy Exile2 votes

Miss Fortune's new bio refers to her as "One of Bilgewater's most infamous bounty hunters," implying there are others of similar fame or infamy, tells us that she ran an operation that would have been dwarfed by Gangplank's influence - "a small but loyal cadre of allies and lovers" - and ultimately puts forward the idea that her larger-than-life persona was a smokescreen meant to make her seem less of a serious threat.

Certainly she would have been on Gangplank's radar, they even banded together to fight off the incursion from the Black Mist, but that doesn't mean that he would perceive her as a genuine threat to himself or even had much reason to care about her unless she was becoming too much of a thorn in his side. Given what we've been told about Sarah in her new bio, I'm quite sure Miss Fortune would have been very careful to avoid getting too heavily on GP's bad side before the time was right.

Knalxz1 votes

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Miss Fortune's new bio refers to her as "One of Bilgewater's most infamous bounty hunters," implying there are others of similar fame or infamy, tells us that she ran an operation that would have been dwarfed by Gangplank's influence - "a small but loyal cadre of allies and lovers" - and ultimately puts forward the idea that her larger-than-life persona was a smokescreen meant to make her seem less of a serious threat.

Certainly she would have been on Gangplank's radar, they even banded together to fight off the incursion from the Black Mist, but that doesn't mean that he would perceive her as a genuine threat to himself or even had much reason to care about her unless she was becoming too much of a thorn in his side. Given what we've been told about Sarah in her new bio, I'm quite sure Miss Fortune would have been very careful to avoid getting too heavily on GP's bad side before the time was right.

But she is a rival and Gangplank spent his entire career as a pirate lord getting rid of those. He knew of her power from the battle with the mist which only furthers the point of why he'd want to kill her when all was said and done. She still hunts down pirates daily, wiping entire bounty boards clean. There is no way that none of those men weren't GPs forces at any point in the 15 years she was hunting him.

What really stopped him from walking into her favorite bar and shooting her in the face?

Helmight1 votes

"GP's forces," as you've mentioned, aren't always his. Gangplank rules Bilgewater through fear primarily and owns a lot more than he actually does. Many pirates will listen to his orders just because they don't want to cause trouble - even if they nominally are free men. So if MF offed a couple here or there, Gangplank wouldn't even notice.

Meanwhile, Gangplank's REAL crew probably avoided the bounty board for the simple fact that Gangplank owned Bilgewater. Anything they did wouldn't be a crime if he said it wasn't - therefore, they were never wanted. I think you're underestimating the amount of clout Gangplank had in Bilgewater.

There's also the fact that MF fought with GP against the Black Mists. If anything, GP would assume that MF is another complacent pirate captain that's alright with living under his thumb. MF probably agreed to fight the Black Mists with him specifically to lead him to believe that. That way, when she finally made her move, she'd be the last person Gangplank would expect to attack.

Radnar the bold1 votes

In her lore, he killed her parents and wounded her, hoping to leave her out for dead. But she made a comeback and used Miss Fortune as her name to stay out of his radar. She wanted to become powerful then kill him.

Knalxz1 votes

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In her lore, he killed her parents and wounded her, hoping to leave her out for dead. But she made a comeback and used Miss Fortune as her name to stay out of his radar. She wanted to become powerful then kill him.

I know that i'm talking about the 15 years that she spent hunting pirates for bounties. why did he never kill her anytime during this period. She apparently became an infamous bounty hunter of pirates. Gankgplank saw TF and Graves as threats so I'd assume that he'd see her as one as well and of taken care of her years in advance.

OperationDEEZ11 votes

He left her for dead. This was before Miss Fortune started a campaign against Gangplank. She was just a child at the time.

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

Im pretty sure that she didnt hunt the pirates that served GP, that is why he forgot about her.

Shénzhì1 votes

At the moment of execution he was distracted with a thought. Out of spite of MF's mother he broke the weapons she deemed were 'too good for him' and then left MF for dead forgetting about her. MF grew to be a bounty hunter incognito among all other bounty hunters. Gangplank no time to route through them all, I guess.

There's probably more psychology to it. In act one he does not kill the boy and taught the boy a lesson probably much like himself may have been. Bilgewater is a harsh place.

OuttaControl561 votes

Miss Fortune never registered as a threat to Gangplank. Sure she was a bounty hunter and he had a bounty, but Gangplank never realized that Miss Fortune was the same girl who had her mother and father die to his blade. He never knew her ultimate goal of vengeance and thus never realized how dangerous she was.

Only Play Darius1 votes

Because she was the second most powerful person in Bilgewater. Much less influential than Gangplank by a long shot, but she was no pushover. As vicious as Gangplank was, it was stated that he likes keeping things very organized and stable, he saw no reason to go to war with Miss Fortune, it would have just created a mess that wasn't worth cleaning up in the end. He was reasonable and intelligent, he wasn't about to wage total war unprovoked.

Knalxz1 votes

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Because she was the second most powerful person in Bilgewater. Much less influential than Gangplank by a long shot, but she was no pushover. As vicious as Gangplank was, it was stated that he likes keeping things very organized and stable, he saw no reason to go to war with Miss Fortune, it would have just created a mess that wasn't worth cleaning up in the end. He was reasonable and intelligent, he wasn't about to wage total war unprovoked.

But she was able to build up those forces. I'm talking about in the long haul. Gangplank must of seen her as some sort of respectable threat as he did for TF and Graves.

When she first came to the town killing pirates why didn't he off her there or anytime between the 15 years that she was hunting down people?

Only Play Darius1 votes

Most of her operation was underground. Yes he knew she was a bounty hunter but no one dared even talk back to Gangplank, let alone try to kill him, so he didn't bother with her, he had more important things to do. He knew that Miss Fortune couldn't take him on by herself but he didn't know the full extent of her influence in Bilgewater. He got blindsided.

Knalxz1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jelly Mac,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=bVxAyWiW,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2015-07-30T21:05:10.455+0000)

Most of her operation was underground. Yes he knew she was a bounty hunter but no one dared even talk back to Gangplank, let alone try to kill him, so he didn't bother with her, he had more important things to do. He knew that Miss Fortune couldn't take him on by herself but he didn't know the full extent of her influence in Bilgewater. He got blindsided.

Wait that first line contradicts what you said before about her being the second mots powerful person in Bligewater, also she was extremely infamous as it says in her updated lore.

Confused was she a well known power house or not?

Only Play Darius1 votes

Miss Fortune herself was very dangerous and not to be messed with, which is what made her powerful. But Gangplank was also powerful in the same way. However, Gangplank did not know about all the power she had in the city, enough power to set up this sophisticated plot to bait Gangplank into a public execution and expose himself.

She was infamous as a bounty hunter, but bounty hunters usually work alone and at most have a single ship and crew. Gangplank had multiple ships and Gangs that pledged loyalty to him.

Knalxz1 votes

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Miss Fortune herself was very dangerous and not to be messed with, which is what made her powerful. But Gangplank was also powerful in the same way. However, Gangplank did not know about all the power she had in the city, enough power to set up this sophisticated plot to bait Gangplank into a public execution and expose himself.

She was infamous as a bounty hunter, but bounty hunters usually work alone and at most have a single ship and crew. Gangplank had multiple ships and Gangs that pledged loyalty to him.

and yet he still saw twisted Fate and Graves as threats. See the problem here? Why not take out someone who's just as dangerous as himself, aka meaning this person could overthrow him one day and save himself the hassle of being hassled.

Even if most of her work was underground GP is a pirate king, you think he wouldn't hear about this kind of stuff everyday? Eventually MF must of hit some heads that belonged to GP and why he didn't take care of her is the problem here.

Only Play Darius1 votes

He had some unexplained history with Graves. Also, he knows that TF is a thief with magical powers and the only reason he would be near GP's warehouse is to steal his prized possesions. He didn't respond to TF because he was scared of him, he responded because he needed to make an example of someone who would dare steal from the pirate king..

Also, keep in mind this is the first part of the brand new lore, there are some things that still are being fleshed out. I'm not on the narrative team i'm doing my best here to make sense of it for you.

Knalxz1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Jelly Mac,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=bVxAyWiW,comment-id=0005000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-07-30T21:46:43.258+0000)

He had some unexplained history with Graves. Also, he knows that TF is a thief with magical powers and the only reason he would be near GP's warehouse is to steal his prized possesions. He didn't respond to TF because he was scared of him, he responded because he needed to make an example of someone who would dare steal from the pirate king..

Also, keep in mind this is the first part of the brand new lore, there are some things that still are being fleshed out. I'm not on the narrative team i'm doing my best here to make sense of it for you.

Sorry, if it seems to be that i'm pressing, can't really show emotions in a simple text all to well unless you want me to speak from a narrative POV.

Anyways it kind of leaves the realm of he knows that are just well known people when he sends all of his gang after them and uses his favorite canon to execute them both in front of the entire town.

He knew a great measure of the two otherwise why would he execute them in such a fashion.

You don't tell your friends about the fly you just killed you tell them of the lion you hunted.

Trylobyte1 votes

Given all the other threats in Bilgewater and her cultivated image as a relatively harmless large-chested airhead, he probably had a lot more to worry about.

GreenLore1 votes

Miss fortune learned from her mother how to make guns. I guess MF was present when her mom designed those guns and she remembered the way they were done(probably took her quite some time until she managed to replicate them though)

Knalxz1 votes

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Miss fortune learned from her mother how to make guns. I guess MF was present when her mom designed those guns and she remembered the way they were done(probably took her quite some time until she managed to replicate them though)

I can see that if she was older but I find it hard to believe that an 8 year old girl, had the skills of her mother in making weapons.

Solidair31 votes

In the new lore she's just a mere Bounty hunter, and she probably takes lots of bounties, pirates or not, so as to not raise Gangplank's suspicions. We know she kept a close (small) band of allies (and tools, as I'm sure she thought of most of them) so as to keep under Gangplank's radar.

I think it's also important to note that Gangplank clearly thought very highly of himself and his power and probably saw other powers in Bilgewater as very little threat to his enormous influence.

It's possible that he had been keeping tabs on Miss Fortune, but it is also possible that she was concealing her true intent enough that he didn't quite understand what she was capable of. We know from her first entry in the Burning Tides arc that her public persona is VERY different from her "I'm going to murder gangplank and everyone who follows him" persona. This public persona is very likely what he understood her to be, after all, she's just a pretty lady bounty hunter who is all charm and no bite, right?

And as for the guns, I'm sure Miss Fortune had good understanding of how the guns worked. She's spent her entire life helping her mother make them. Maybe the first time she fixed them it wasn't great, but I'm sure it's a talent she could develop in her own right.

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