Soooooo... the Ionian invasion is still going on?

Voidrey··12 votes·5,161 views

How long has Noxus been at war with them? unless this is in the past... but if not, you'd think that the Demacia, Piltover, and maybe even the Yordles would be intervening in this. I am so confused... [zombie-brand-mindblown]

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RiotRiotJaredan16 votes

Demacia wouldn't be touching that with a barge pole. It's just not on their front door. Piltover has reasons to stay neutral.

Ralanr3 votes

So Ionia has no alliance with Demacia I assume?

RiotRiotJaredan11 votes

You assume correctly.

Ralanr1 votes

I see. Forgive me for asking, but has Demacia made attempts in the past or is Ionia some mystical land that was only discovered recently before Noxus invaded it?

Helmight7 votes

In the original pre-Great Retcon lore, Demacia was notorious for not intervening in anything unless it directly involved them. They stayed the hell out of Ionia and out of the Freljord during the Barbarian Pacification campaign. While they're opposed to Noxus, they don't exactly jump at the chance to defend other nations.

I'm assuming that, in the new lore, Ionia is just as well-known as Piltover or Zaun. Demacia just isn't interested in expending manpower to defend them.

RiotRiotJaredan12 votes

Ionia is very hard to miss. And yeah, Demacia takes care of Demacia.

kDrakari4 votes

I mean, Demacia COULD take care of Ionia.

You know, if Ionia was part of Demacia...

Justice and such, y'know?

AvatarRoku222 votes

If they did that then garen cant shout FOR DEMACIA since... you know.. it would be for ionia... >.>

DeathBurst1 votes

I can't help but notice that you pointedly avoided mentioning the Yordles. I mean, come on, we are teased since at least Illaoi, can't remember for sure about TK / Kindred special interactions. Could we at some point get a little more than tease? :)

MrBuffington2 votes

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It's just not on their front door.

Jaredan, Runeterra map where? (inb4 Ezreal)

Voidrey1 votes

okey dokey, thanks for answering!

l Helios l1 votes

Piltover has reasons to stay neutral.

I'd imagine they don't want to give more reasons for Zaun to create strong ties with Noxus. That could be a problem. Plus, Piltover may not consider themselves directly threatened by the war.

ReZisT Lust1 votes

woah woah woah you mean theres gonna be a jarvin barge worker skin omg [slayer-pantheon-rainbows]

GenoXx3 votes

Jhin

TenshouSNK3 votes

Why are Shuriman's being employed by Noxians...Why don't Shurimans serve the Shuriman Empire? Azir is back, he can re-create the Shuriman Dynasty.

DragonShea1 votes

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Why are Shuriman's being employed by Noxians...Why don't Shurimans serve the Shuriman Empire? Azir is back, he can re-create the Shuriman Dynasty.

Well form Sivir's case it's safe to assume that some Shurimans go to noxus for a better life if they can make it there. hell I even think that some of the Shurimans have mixed with noxus. Personally I think that Katarina, Cassiopeia and Sivir are half Shuriman, half Noxian

Also, not all of the Shuriman know of the rebirth of Shurima and Azir so it's safe to say Taliyah doesn't either.

Anu3isII1 votes

BIG EDIT: This is a comment that will contain some spoilers of the new champion's lore.

In the story of the new champion, the Shuriman Empire is still known to be buried in sand, and most of the Shurimans live in tribes, and are nomads.

In Sivir's case, she is a known mercenary, that would do almost everything for some good gold. She had numerous missions for Noxus, and some people still don't get why she did not go in the Ionia-Noxus War.

The new champion instead volunteered to help them, but immediately left, not really enjoying her decision. When she and Yasuo went to a tavern, they two merchants who told them about the "Bird God", and how he does this and that. That is the moment when it is known that Azir has awakened.

Until she went to Ionia, she didn't know anything about Azir, and even now when she knows that the "Bird God" is back, she fears that this God will enslave her people instead of thinking about Shuriman Empire's restoration. Every single Shuriman believed that their old empire was lost forever until they met Azir.

Her story is not over, and Shurima still isn't reborn.

OurLestrade1 votes

People from Shurima are just nomads now, suppose they wander for work.

kasfas3 votes

If that's true, why haven't they released Sion in Ionia yet? I know Riot just made him a new skin, but if they plan on updating noxus' lore next and Scott McNeil isn't busy...

Basically I want to see the choo choo crush some Ionian bones. Any chance of that happening anytime soon you think?

Also, I'd like to know what's happening with Sion right now. Is he caged still, or is he destroying fortresses somewhere?

OurLestrade2 votes

Finally putting an end to the whole "Big evil meanie Noxus invades innocent Ionia but the talented and perfect and pretty and intelligent Ionians kick their butts for freedom" will make my day :3

kasfas2 votes

Ionian weaklings! We will show them the true power, of NOXUS! Sion CHOO CHOO!!

OurLestrade2 votes

Noxus is love. Noxus is life. Now all I need is my tough Noxian Sergeant support with a flag and a sword :P

Ralanr2 votes

AD support when?! Rito Please!

La Barbotte1 votes

wont happend, rageblade yi three shotted sion while being afk #hard champ

ModWulf Helhammer2 votes

No Institute of War =/= no League match to determine who wins. It becomes just like a regular war, and given what we know about Noxus, they don't seem the type to surrender.

Valaran Nara1 votes

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How long has Noxus been at war with them? unless this is in the past... but if not, you'd think that the Demacia, Piltover, and maybe even the Yordles would be intervening in this. I am so confused... [zombie-brand-mindblown]

During World War II, America tried to stay uninvolved with what was happening until Japan bombed Pearl Harbor.

Yes, America partook in it, but it's not because "we should help them" It's because "They did NOT just kick over my sand castle!!!!??"

Demacia would only be involved through virtue of offsetting Noxus, and that's IF they're not busy with their own stuff. I don't believe Ionia has a current alliance with Demacia, so Demacia's immediate involvement to protect an ally does not exist.

The Yordles are yordles. Why would all of Bandle City bother running up to protect Ionia? This is an isolated war between two factions that shouldn't include the intervention of others (even if Ionia would appreciate the help). Having 2-3 other factions involved would make it a World War which, by the look of things, is not the scale Riot is trying to make this out to be.

Voidrey1 votes

Demacia ain't exactly America. Their all about justice and protecting the innocent! I thought they would veiw this invasion as something totally evil and ignoring it would be a disgace to their honor or something like that. also they have bone to pick with Noxus. This is why I thought they would intervene with the invasion

Valaran Nara2 votes

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Demacia ain't exactly America. Their all about justice and protecting the innocent! I thought they would veiw this invasion as something totally evil and ignoring it would be a disgace to their honor or something like that. also they have bone to pick with Noxus. This is why I thought they would intervene with the invasion

Yes. And Americans like to think of themselves as the hero (Watch "Hetalia". The anime has characters who personifies each individual country.)

And the thing is, this is also politics. Demacia can't interfere in every single thing Noxus does or every single thing bad going on around them.

For Demacia to be willing to randomly jump in and say "Eff you" to Noxus with their invasion of Ionia, Demacia needs to be able to get something out of it. And what they get needs to be more than just "Ha. Nice try Evil." Demacia getting involved means that they're either trying to achieve 1 of 3 things

1.) Cripple Noxus (which is the most obvious, but that only gets them so much if nothing else comes of it)

2.) Acquire Land and Resources (they are trying to stop Noxus from taking Ionian land and resources, so Demacia may have rights to Ionian land and resources.

3.) Self honor. (now, while this may seem like the point you tried to make earlier, Demacia has no dealings with Ionia nor cause to fight for them. Especially if Demacia is trying to care chiefly for themselves and build upon their own power and might. But if, say, Zaun, who is a close ally of Noxus during the invasion did something to Demacia in the meanwhile, not ONLY will Demacia protect Ionia from Noxus, but they will also make sure that Zaun burns.)

When it comes to government dealings and politics, jumping headlong into every single fight a non-ally commits to or jumping at the chance to protect every single country that has no need of your protection (or rather would cause you to lose resources and commit to something that should be left alone) does not bode well for the future.

DragonShea3 votes

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Demacia ain't exactly America. Their all about justice and protecting the innocent! I thought they would veiw this invasion as something totally evil and ignoring it would be a disgace to their honor or something like that. also they have bone to pick with Noxus. This is why I thought they would intervene with the invasion

Demacia is full of shit, if they REALLY cared about justice, they would be hounding the fuck out of Noxus, as well as offering help or currying favour with Ionia, but no. they only use justice and righteousness as a disguise for their own lust for power, most like Noxus is doing the same with their own ideals. Really the two factions are not so different.

TenshouSNK1 votes

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Demacia is full of shit, if they REALLY cared about justice, they would be hounding the fuck out of Noxus, as well as offering help or currying favour with Ionia, but no. they only use justice and righteousness as a disguise for their own lust for power, most like Noxus is doing the same with their own ideals. Really the two factions are not so different.

Why doesn't bandle city intervene? Demacia don't give 2 cent about anyone who is not demacian. So they can kiss my arse with their rediculous justice mottos.

DragonShea1 votes

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Why doesn't bandle city intervene? Demacia don't give 2 cent about anyone who is not demacian. So they can kiss my arse with their rediculous justice mottos.

I don't really think Bandle City care much either, they are like demacia in that they are too stuck up in their own ideals, I.E their diabetes including happy-go-lucky sweetness. in other words they don't care enough to get involved with the war between Ionia and Noxus, but bet my ass of that they would only fight Noxus if Piltover got into a war with Zaun and Noxus was backing their homie up.

RottedApples1 votes

america was already supplying some tanks and resources to other countries though before they entered the war themselves.

Do we know if demacia is doing this?

Devack The Holy1 votes

I can just see them doing this:

Karma : Hey, we're getting invaded by Noxus. Can you send us over some tanks?

JarvanIV : Well... We only have the one, but he's a damn good one. Garen

Karma : Well, if it's him, that's all we'll need.

JVP151 votes

Hmm. Kind of off topic, but with the new little bit of lore with Yasuo, I got to thinking, who killed the elder? Riven, probably not. She seems to honorable and wasn't in the right place at the right time. So, any other Noxian we might know about? Well, Darius and Sion are out, as neither of them command wind. Swain and his birb couldn't really do it. LB, again, isn't a wind person. I doubt Talon and Katarina where involved in this thin... Wait. Talon and Katarina. Katarina Du Couteau. We know that Katarina's father, General Du Couteau, disappeared. We don't know when. We don't know why. We don't know how. So, what if he went to Ionia and killed the elder. We don't know what Du Couteau can do, other than he is an amazing swordsman and handed Talon his ass. Maybe he knows a wind technique, and so when he was away from Noxus, he assassinated the elder. He has a motive, and he certainly has the skill.

Kallian1 votes

GASP MYSTRYE SOIVED

ReZisT Lust1 votes

leblanc is the mistress of lies she coulda used the move metronome for a wind ability

JVP151 votes

LeBlanc, use Metronome!

"LeBlanc used Gust. It's super effective."

ƒoes1 votes

It's lore with new characters being introduced with their own separate yet similar lore. It is very possible that the lore's timeline is not parallel with the League of Legends (the actual lore League of Legends) timeline - it could have taken place a long time ago. Just don't question it - I treat the Runeterra lore as a completely different timeline than in the League of Legends (game) lore because there's not much you can do to make the two timelines parallel. To be completely honest, I think that the League of Legends is the "Hunger Games" of Runeterra.

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