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The New Harrowing Story: Champions don't know each other?

TexMeta··1 votes·1,085 views

So as we've seen, with the exception of Lucian knowing the creatures of the Shadow Isles, and the others, except Olaf, knowing stories about them, none of the champions know who each other are, or have even heard of each other, whatsoever, even though by player base they've batted many times before. I'm assuming that player based battles don't really matter, being excluded from canon? Or how exactly does that work out?

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GreenLore7 votes

Yeah,the game isn't canon,so most champs probably never heard of each other.

Sharjo5 votes

Valoran's a huge ass continent too, so the chances of some of these champions meeting each other is slim to none. If Bilgewater wasn't so tied in to Harrowings and the Shadow Isles I'd bet that Lucian wouldn't set foot there.

Melancholy Exile3 votes

Exactly what you said. The League of Legends and Summoners Rift are concepts that have never existed in the current canon so unless Champions are figures who would be known on the world stage it's unlikely they'll have heard of anyone who isn't from their corner of the setting.

TexMeta1 votes

Figured. Puts things like "A New Dawn" and the others as just cool cinematics lol but actually, unless they discarded it, the League of Legends is currently canon. The Battle for Ionia was played out in the League of Legends by real players, and determined the history of how the Noxus and Ionia war played out. The Journal of Justice is canon as well, unless they discarded it also. Guess we won't know unless they tell us.

Melancholy Exile2 votes

They've both been put forward as non-canon, although events and plot details may still be considered canon if they haven't been directly contradicted elsewhere or may yet be reworked and maintained in a different form. Events like Kalamanda and the Ionian War certainly still took place in the new canon, or at least it's been suggested they did, but the way they played out will likely have been somewhat different.

The League of Legends/Institute of War, Summoners (at least in the form we knew) and the Journal of Justice simply did not exist in the current canon. What remains to be seen is how Riot will fill the big vacuum that leaves in the setting's past and reinterpret Champions whose backstories were intertwined with the League.

TexMeta1 votes

Okay, so it's either a complete re-do of the lore, or a pre-quel of some sort for the lore? I mean, Graves and TF are supposed to be enemies in game, but now in this lore they are friends again, so that would have to put both of these events after the creation of the League. Even now, they still have the old taunts of being against one another, but also their "lore" so to speak, of what happened, turned out to be a bad heist more than TF betraying his friend for magic. So this is all just leaving me REALLY confused lol. I guess until Riot says what is what, we should just consider this really interesting and fun, but take nothing as serious canon until further said? P.S.: I assumed this was all canon, because what happened to Gangplank changed him in-game.

Ebonmaw Dragon5 votes

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Figured. Puts things like "A New Dawn" and the others as just cool cinematics lol but actually, unless they discarded it, the League of Legends is currently canon. The Battle for Ionia was played out in the League of Legends by real players, and determined the history of how the Noxus and Ionia war played out. The Journal of Justice is canon as well, unless they discarded it also. Guess we won't know unless they tell us.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/creative-spotlight/dev-blog-exploring-runeterra

"So can we get a solid, 100% certain, that Summoners, the Institute, and all of that is no longer canon? This is nice and all, but it's only vague hints about what a lot of people want to hear. If you guys do indeed just want to start the narrative over, I completely stand by your choice to do so, but this transition so far is being handled somewhat awkwardly, and it'd be nice to know what really counts as "old lore" and "new lore"." - A Player

"No, Summoners, the Fields of Justice and the Institute are not canon within the fictional world of Runeterra. In-game, players are still referred to as summoners - but summoners won't be part of the story." - Carnival Knights

TexMeta1 votes

Okay, so all of that is now just thrown out. Thanks for the info! :D So, will there EVER be a League of Legends, or is that just for a non-canon offset excuse for the game to somewhat make us feel connected with the world, and characters, of Runterra? And with all of that in mind, how does the new lore, or actual fictional canon lore, if I should put it, say that Ionia saved itself from Noxus?

Ebonmaw Dragon1 votes

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Okay, so all of that is now just thrown out. Thanks for the info! :D So, will there EVER be a League of Legends, or is that just for a non-canon offset excuse for the game to somewhat make us feel connected with the world, and characters, of Runterra? And with all of that in mind, how does the new lore, or actual fictional canon lore, if I should put it, say that Ionia saved itself from Noxus?

Well, the LoL was removed forever, everything in game is not canon. There is no explanation for now, but some people thinks that Bard saved Ionia in the video "The Mountain" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CX8iSobsKTY), others say that Ao Shin will save Ionia in the future.

TexMeta1 votes

Well the Ao Shin one is unlikely, since in Spirit Guard Udyr's comic displayed him as evil.

Fasmodey1 votes

Expect Kindred, they know everyone.

Ralanr1 votes

I wonder how a demacian would react to Leona?

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