What are we as players?

TexMeta·Nov 3, 2015·3 votes·1,418 views

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/champions-skins/creative-spotlight/mists-creating-shadow-and-fortune Well, since we know that the old lore is now just League history and no longer canon, and that these upcoming stories will now be considered canon, as it is separated from the game, what are we now? We're called summoners, but summoners no longer exist. We play League of Legends, but the League of Legends no longer exists. I completely agree with the choice to move on from the restrictions, but the idea that we were apart of a universe and not just observers, or playing a game that now doesn't make much sense in regards to the universe itself, was part of what made LoL fun. The lore is still amazing and great to read, but now that the game is removed completely from any part of the lore, and pretty much universe as far as that is concerned, what is the point of it? It's fun still, yeah, but I feel just completely detached now. Aside from getting to see the champions we all love, without having to wait for a cinematic video or to read a new piece of lore, what is the point? I guess my real question is: What is League of Legends? How are we still summoners even? What is the game now, aside from Runeterra's creational history?

14 Comments

Sneak DogNov 3, 20154 votes

According to the lore: We don't exist. The game doesn't exist. The League of Legends doesn't exist. Summoners (the old lore version) don't exist.

According to the game: We are 'summoners' aka players. League of Legends is the name of the game. The lore is the basis or inspiration for the in-game content, like champions, maps and even temporary game modes.

Ebonmaw DragonNov 3, 20154 votes

What is League of Legends?

The name of the Game, nothing more.

How are we still summoners even?

Its a fancy name for the player.

What is the game now, aside from Runeterra's creational history?

a Game, nothing else.

ADepressedLeonaNov 5, 20151 votes

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What is League of Legends?

The name of the Game, nothing more.

How are we still summoners even?

Its a fancy name for the player.

What is the game now, aside from Runeterra's creational history?

a Game, nothing else.

"Wow look at this awesome immersion Lore we have!"

"Yeah! Let's chunk it in the trash because we no think good!"

http://i1307.photobucket.com/albums/s595/dumpledork/brilliant-fgermc_zpsf74a7edc.jpg

EDIT: In all seriousness, the recent lore they have given us is pretty good. It tells a really good story. But it's no the same to me. I miss those League judgments where summoners invaded the minds of the champions and we saw just what drives that champion's goals (as well as an important part of their lives)

I miss the JoJ, the newspaper of League. It was really well done the way they had it implemented, and some awesome stories could have (and did, my personal favorite was the Shaco interview) been created.

I use to feel really cool when champions referred to me as "Summoner" in their dialog, now it only makes me sad and reminds me of the lore I fell in love with.

But most of all, I despise their reasoning for reconnecting the lore. Because it was hard to fit champions in the League? Are you kidding me? You had so much to work with and you complain that it's hard??

What Riot and Opeli did was nothing short of LAZY plain and simple.

And that's why I'm still incredibly salty over it all.

Lord BoltrixNov 4, 20153 votes

We are no longer summoners, but gods who determine the fate of Runeterra in a cataclysmic battle between two opposing forces of the ultimate fighting warriors.

"GG get da fehk out ja n00b, I'm pleyin AP Lick Bean Trindamer"

However, not all gods are created equal.

TexMetaNov 4, 20152 votes

Lol Perfect example.

kJsNov 3, 20152 votes

League of Legends stays but the Summoner's are non-existant. For the purposes of the game we are the characters, not ones to control it. Eventually all the Summoner related quotes will be washed away rework by rework, though it's going to take a couple of years, probably a couple more until we completely cleanse ourselves of the old lore.

According to S@20 sources, the sect of the Rakkor and the Solari worshipers are the next to have replacements for their lore retcon and many have speculated that because Rakkor are a the best warrior tribe in Runeterra that the Rift will be held at the top of the Rakkor mountains, conducted by the rulers of the Solari or Pantheon's authorities. Read Pantheon's lore. Not 100% confirmed but hopefully that is what will happen to fix this emptiness.

TexMetaNov 4, 20152 votes

Yeah. It just seems like some cool part of the game was taken out, like instead of feeling like you're a part of the world, that's just stripped away. It's just a game now, where every champion has some cool backstory in a world that really barely exists. All I really mean is that it felt like there was more of a connection to the world when the game was actually apart of it. The game is just a game, with no connection to the world whatsoever, that no longer makes any sense aside from amusement of people killing each other, but champions will still change based upon what happens in the real world of Runeterra (like Gangplank), which if there is no connection and League of Legends is no longer an actual part of any world, makes little sense. I just feel like a deep connection to the world was severed. Riot makes an excellent point, but I'm voicing my thoughts. I guess that "emptiness" is what I feel right now.

Jeddy017Nov 4, 20152 votes

This is like asking "what are the players in Super Smash Bros.?"

TexMetaNov 4, 20152 votes

That is nothing like it. Whatsoever. At all. The League of Legends, with players as Summoners, was an actual game to lore to real world tie between us and the game. Super Smash Bros. was never anything like that, nor did the players ever get to decide anything. Those games are, and always will be, just a free for all melee to ruin friendships.

Jeddy017Nov 4, 20151 votes

I don't see why it isn't.The games we play are just that,games.A completely separate thing from the narrative with no narrative reason for happening that doesn't exist as far as the narrative is concerned. As far as the game is concerned:the lore is a toy box & the champs are the toys.To the game,the lore is just a place to get new things to play with from.

And before you say anything,remember Riot themselves said "Lore & Game are separated".What happens in the game have no impact on or even exist in the lore.And events in the lore won't affect gameplay...................................Unless Riot conveniently want to do something "cool" like disable a character because they "died" in lore.In which case,they'll ignore that little statement.But it still applies to everything else so they don't have to explain why the freak Nami heals Brand with water.

So,the game is just like Super Smash Bros now.

TexMetaNov 5, 20152 votes

What happened with the changes to gangplank is a perfect example of how the lore affected gameplay. And yeah they are all games, sure, but it's nice playing within a world, not just a nonsensical battleground.