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Massive inconsistency with Riot's Lore

D E Merry·2/13/2015, 6:46:46 PM·3 votes·1,124 views

So everyone knows how the Institute of War is now a non-canon part of the story, correct? So these characters are allowed to have more fleshed out backstories that don't require to force them to enter the Institute of War?

Of course, there are some jokes that break the 4th wall, like Mordekaiser saying you only need to click once. Understandable, it's just a joke.

Then why does still call you Summoner? "Only you can hear me, Summoner. What masterpiece shall we play today?"

If you really want to stick with "In-game, players are still referred to as summoners - but summoners won't be part of the story." (quoted from Carnival Knights on Dev Blog: Exploring Rune Terra" Then sure whatever, you explained that inconsistency. Then answer me this question:

Then how does Summoner's Rift exist if there are no summoners? Isn't it just a Rift? If Summoner's Rift is non-canon, how are we expected to believe any of the other maps (including the ones that are only in the story like the Shadow Isles) to be canon? Why does the Crystal Scar and Skarner have to be canon or the Twisted Treeline and Maokai have to be canon if there is a rift in a world without summoners that is called Summoner's Rift? In the sense, how are any of your stories canon if the world presented most often to us is, in fact, non-canon? Or do you just get to pick and choose like the Bible where we have literally believe it's the word of God but we refuse to follow Deutronomy 21:18-21 where: "If any man has a stubborn and rebellious son who will not obey his father or his mother, and when they chastise him, he will not even listen to them, then his father and mother shall seize him, and bring him out to the elders of his city at the gateway of his home town. And they shall say to the elders of his city, "This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious, he will not obey us, he is a glutton and a drunkard." Then all the men of his city shall stone him to death; so you shall remove the evil from your midst, and all Israel shall hear of it and fear."

So pretty much you're like a cult that gets to pick and choose your story?

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Sharjo2/13/2015, 8:45:21 PM4 votes

I'll have a stab at some of your questions, if I may.

***Why does Sona still say that line? *** Because doing the VO is one of the hardest parts of a champ or skin because not only does it have to be drafted, then people need to audition, then any altering to the voice needs to be done, they lines need to be hooked up, and then this process is repeated 15 more times for every language League is played in. This is why we're seeing more VUs but less VO updates across the board; redoing the VO would push those VUs back considerably. They'll get to it when the the time's right, which will likely not be any time soon due to priorities for the Champ Up team.

How does Summoner's Rift exist if there are no summoners? Isn't it just a rift? Because the concept of the Summoners of the Institute of War was removed, not the concept of actually summoning things. If that was true, Malzahar would be removed from the game, because he summons, as does the Zz'rot portal, as does Azir and Yorick. Summoner's Rift can refer to the history of the area; The rift is the land between two bases that were once held by some people who summoned stuff. Maybe they summoned Baron from the Void, and Summoner's Rift also refers to the rift created to bring him through.

If Summoner's Rift is non canon, how are we expected to believe any of the other maps are canon? Because they have lore and history. Demacia and Noxus went to war over Kalamanda even though there was no League to intervene. It was a battle for resources stopped (presumably) by Zilean. The Twisted Treeline is a place on the Shadow Isles, there are undead on it (the spirits of the shrines) who talk about it. They are canon characters in the game world, just as Greyor and Lyte are canon on the Howling Abyss. Just because they aren't Fields of Justice in the lore doesn't mean these places don't exist at all.

In the sense, how are any of your stories canon if the world presented often to us is, in fact, non canon? The world you are shown is canon. The items exist as actual things in Runeterra. The Maps are locations in Valoran. The creatures on the maps are living creatures of their current habitats. The champions are important people in the world for one reason or another. The gameplay isn't canon, everything else is. Our games don't affect the lore, but everything in them is a part of the League of Legends universe.

So pretty much you're like a cult that gets to pick and choose your story? This one makes me scratch my head. They're the people who write this story for a living. They're not allowed to pick and choose what is a part of the world they created? If cult means the guys deciding what makes it in to the story, then yes they're a cult, because it's their job, and it's their game's universe.

Hope that answered some things. Maybe it did, or maybe no one will care, I dunno.

redniwediS2/13/2015, 6:50:59 PM2 votes

We'll know more when the new lore comes out.
Just because they announced that certain parts of the old lore are no longer cannon doesn't mean everything's been updated yet.

MarkedOfKane2/13/2015, 7:23:58 PM2 votes

I hate how riot deleted the lore.

The other day, I read braums and it gave me a completely different look at him. Then I read a Shurima character's lore and it tells me nothing about them.