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The only Issue I see with Jayce's Lore

Looknook·12/10/2016, 9:00:46 PM·5 votes·1,095 views

So after hearing everyone talking about Jayce's new lore and how it frames Viktor. I decided to go and read it myself. I thought it was a pretty well written story. In fact I personally don't think the way it frames Viktor is horrendous. You just have to keep in mind that everything is from Jayce's perspective, a person who has no interpersonal skills or ability to understand others.

The only real issue I have with Jayce's lore in general is that it cannot function without Viktor, but Viktor can and has without Jayce.

Viktor had his lore, along with his character and the communities idea of what Viktor was formed before Jayce stepped on the scene. When I read posts about people describing Viktor and what he is Jayce isn't mentioned. Except in the context of his lore changing Viktor. However, the same thing doesn't apply for Jayce. Especially the new lore.

Now I am not a writer or crafter of stories so take what I say with a pinch of salt.

I think Jayce would be better without Viktor in his lore.

This does not mean that I do not think they could not share stories together where they are diametrically opposed to Viktor. There is a lot of great stuff there. I am saying that I think it doesn't do either character justice to make them so closely tied to each other.

Anyways that just my two cents on the subject, thanks for reading!

P.S. And have a Merry Christmas with the best of luck on Finals!

8 Comments

midnight oil2412/10/2016, 9:02:02 PM1 votes

I just think they both need to be punished for what they did to each other.

Viktor can do much better than jayce, and I'm glad he went to zaun, where he can truly be free.

Mogarl12/11/2016, 1:49:53 AM1 votes

Yes and maybe no, I'm not sure. For Jayce's story he does need a villain, and adding a character just for his villain could be bothersome, and dilute the champion pool. I'm not wholly against their stories being intertwined though it could provide some interesting stories and they are made to foil each other. Pursuing a similar goal but with conflict in how to reach that goal. It's simply a question of if it is worth what is lost. Jayce doesn't pose much to lose, no matter what he needed a villain. However Viktor didn't need a Hero, but I feel bringing Viktor down a level may have been justified. In a way Viktor's lore could be surmised with "is the best at Hextech". Blitzcrank was just a one line entry to help explain what happened to Viktor, and otherwise other champions didn't really matter to Viktor. That's why as soon as you introduce someone that challenges a villainous act of his it hurts him extra hard.

The notion that some guy with a hammer kicked his ass couldn't do anything besides make him out to be a cartoon villain.

Back on note to Jayce's new lore. I think that to some degree Jayce's lore isn't really about bringing Viktor down to Jayce's level but bringing Jayce up to Viktor's. Jayce story wise was actually pretty bad. His only champion quality was fighting Viktor, and this lead to him just kind of piggy backing on Viktor's lore. Narrative has decided they want to have Jayce and Viktor standing on equal footing. This has involved some building on Jayce's part, and Viktor not standing over everyone because as long as Viktor's lore makes him out to be so much better than everyone every loss makes him look really bad.

I did enjoy Jayce's lore, and while I wouldn't remove the Jayce Viktor dynamic I feel that Jayce's lore may not give Jayce enough attention.

333lom12/11/2016, 10:22:35 AM1 votes

You are absolutely right! It's not fair towards Jayce's character, and it won't be fair towards Viktor's character when Riot forcefully pushes Jayce into his new lore.

With Jayce's lore update, I was really hoping to see a decrease of focus on Viktor, and a story where Jayce gets to do his own thing, battling some real bad guys.

GreenLore12/11/2016, 12:08:27 PM1 votes

Overall this was always kind of a problem with Jayce,even more so in his original lore,which basically summed up to "viktors rival",with pretty much nothing else to him.

The new version does help a bit to let him stand on his own,since it also mentions his struggle to understand the feelings of others and how many actually dislike him because of his smugness,but Viktors presence is still a major point of his lore.

I feel like riot however does try to avoid these kind of characters nowadays a bit more. A good example might be Cassio and katarina,I mean a lot of people wondered why Cassiopeias lore doesn't describe her as katarinas sister,but no one cared about katarinas lore not mentioning cassiopeia,which showed that cassiopeia was always seen as katas sister,but Katarina was always seen as her own character and riot did not mention kata in cassios lore specifically to avoid this,to let cassiopeia stand on her own.

However Riot has shown that they are ok with 2 characters being tied close together,so that they mention each other in their lores,like Renekton and nasus or Xerath and azir. So maybe Jayce will be mentioned in Viktors lore,I mean a lot of stuff that happened in Jayces lore likely had an impact on viktor as well(him getting kicked out of the piltover academy and getting his plans thwarted by jace)