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When Janna gets visually updated I want her to stay "sexualized," hear me out

LeafyGreen··112 votes·23,192 views

Listen, while she obviously needs to change from a girl in a bikini who only speaks in wind puns, I think it is vital that Janna still shows a lot of skin and remains "sexualized" when she gets visually updated. Being revered as some higher being or goddess is usually in nature for them to be "perfect" or "beautiful." This goes along with a lot of mythology where the purest beings are often naked or showing a lot of skin because that is the human's original form and that is way to show them to be beautiful. I'm not trying to say that in order for Janna to be viewed as a beautiful woman she needs to be naked and "slim-thicc" but the gracefulness and the overall higher presence of a primordial being added to her character would fit really nice by turning her bikini into the nudeness of ancient art and culture. I don't know what direction Riot is going with Janna, but since she already is mostly naked I would be very surprised if she was all covered up in her visual update to begin with.

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Crimson Zeppelin69 votes

We literally want her like a Greek goddess. I think it was heavily implied she was a sort of pagan deity that was worshipped long before Zaun was made.

Terozu10 votes

Stated.

She's been around since before Zaun and Piltover were founded.

Witch of Babylon54 votes

I wouldn't mind this because she looks so pretty in her splash art. However, make the clothing look more graceful/classy. Like, why is she wearing Walmart underwear with toilet paper attached to it?

CarameI Frappe21 votes

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I wouldn't mind this because she looks so pretty in her splash art. However, make the clothing look more graceful/classy. Like, why is she wearing Walmart underwear with toilet paper attached to it?

I’m so dead after reading that.

AbiwonKenabi19 votes

So you want her to be something along the lines of a "fertility" or "nature" goddess? I guess that makes sense. Its a different reason than anyone else has to be scantily clad.

I don't mind scantily clad women characters in the first place, but a reason for it, even if just a visual design reason, is always appreciated. I start to have a problem when it actively detracts from her character. Like if they had made Taliyah dress sexy, it would have taken away from her young optimism, insecurity and innocence that are core to her character.

Please End Mee13 votes

Agreed.

Keep her sexualized, but have her exude a certain gracefulness, a lightness, to fit with her air spirit nature. Also, maybe have her be a more natural beauty, by further emphasizing her beauty, rather than giving her make up.

PaladinNO5 votes

You're the first to approve. Posted the same image twice now, only to have it downvoted several times for some reason.

MF is my Waifu4 votes

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You're the first to approve. Posted the same image twice now, only to have it downvoted several times for some reason.

Site's full of sensitive/insecure SJWs that seek 15 minutes of e-fame through threads that oppose sexiness in general.

PaladinNO2 votes

...And if you hover your cursor over our posts now, you'll find that statement to be accurate too.

adtrl3 votes

Aye (2nd)

Wrathof30012 votes

I agree with you, in her new lore Janna started off as a wind spirit guiding seafarers, the shrines they built for her were even used as figureheads for their ships. Therefore, Janna's design (imo) could also draw some inspiration from real life ship figureheads, often women partially wearing some long flowing dress.

Terozu4 votes

She was also originally a bird. Be nice if they incotporated that.

Larriet8 votes

I agree with your reasoning, though I do want to say that nudity is not (inherently) sexualization. I actually think the amount of skin she's showing is pretty natural, although I think the outfit itself has a weird design.

LeafyGreen4 votes

Ya..there are so many weird things about it

Is that all silk because some of it has a weird armor looking plate like form to it (on her hip)????

What is up with those gloves??

What are these glowing orange stones, they look important but also what??

Is her crown just for decoration, what does it mean???

Her staff has a cool windy design to it, but does it have any significance other than "she is a mage she must hold a staff?????"

There's a LOT of room for everything to be elaborated and that's also what makes what she will become fun to explore

Arakadia8 votes

This could work very well if they gave her a body that focused on being graceful and unearthly rather than busty and sexy.

PokladnicaZla6 votes

Tbh her current splash isn't really busty. She's more lean and skinny than busty ( compared to other female champions).

Salamencę7 votes

Keep her curves though. Covering her up isn't a big deal but if they turn her body into something like jinx ima be salty

Sett a trap5 votes

They need to make her more Angry Greek Goddess or Merciful Tease Goddess than "Hi I'm a Revlon commercial model in a bed sheet speaking like I'm high"

HungryAngry2SPP4 votes

No, she should look like spooky ghost GP, she s a wind goddess afterall

Lost R4 votes

Do you know why all those Greek and Roman statues and Renaissance artwork (like Michelangelo's David) have naked people in them? Nudity was also commonly associated with heroism and divinity. That's also why the original Olympics had the athletes compete naked.

EmperorSacrael3 votes

I can sign for this but only if her body is christian angel meaning of perfect, so with both male and female body parts, LoL would use more hermaphrodites :3*[sg-lulu]*

Automated Riven3 votes

Wait what? When have Christian's claimed that angels have both female and male body parts? The far more useful argument (if anyone cared) is that they have neither as they aren't human.

Hovering Hentai2 votes

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Wait what? When have Christian's claimed that angels have both female and male body parts? The far more useful argument (if anyone cared) is that they have neither as they aren't human.

Originally it's from one of Plato's works where he describes three genders - male - children of the sun, female - children of the earth and Androgynous - children of the moon. According to myth these creatures were powerful enough to stand against the Gods so Zeus split them apart. It's where we get the term "soulmate" depicting us looking for the part of ourselves we are missing.

In terms of Christian Angels - you don't want to go down that road. The typical Winged humanoid form is generally referred to Angels and Archangels the two choirs, closest to the human world. but further up and closer to God - Angel forms become..... beyond weird.....

Yara02 votes

Yah Christianity is a mess because even though they all use the same book they all add their own spin on it and it just creates a fuck fest of people arguing which one is the "true one"

Its actually the reason being Transgender is so hard in america comparative to the eastern world is because of all these people trying to create rules for life.(grew up mormon was not a fan because im trans lol). Whilst in China the most popular game show is ran by a Openly trans woman who was a former army colonel that is recognized by the government as a woman. She is also a lesbian :3. She pulls around 100 million viewers a week. Whilst in the US.......... its just all over the fucking place.

So yah there is a little comparison nobody asked for my life problems are showing oops lol.

Also FYI people the term Hermaphrodite is seen as offensive by allot of people(idk why tbh i mean its got aphrodite in it which is kinda neat) But most people prefer the term "intersex" Just incase you ever run into a real life scenario and your confused.

EmperorSacrael2 votes

In the jewish tradition, angels were often portrayed with both breasts and penises, sigh. (Also, what's the thing with you NA guys, why are you downvoting so many things even though they are not rude, offensive or anything like that)

Automated Riven4 votes

I don't downvote anything. I was genuinely curious. Because as a Christian angels (in my experience) are portrayed as male (probably) altho genitals aren't showing. Their definitely aren't breasts tho.

When you get into revelation (new testement) however it wouldn't make a whole lot of sense to be portraying them anyway like that tho. They are described in their in multiple ways. None are as humans tho.

6FlagsFunnelCake3 votes

That's actually why I absolutely loved the lore update they did for Janna. It actually gives some sense to why she's...dressed that way. Mind you, before the Zaun update her lore was that she was just a little girl who found out she had wind powers and lived in Zaun. Now she's revered as a goddess of protection and wind, so what she's wearing really just matters to whatever she's manifesting as.

Other than that, I hope they make it so she looks a little more 'in-human' in a sense, something to make it a little more obvious that she isn't just some normal Zaunite human, but a powerful deity from the other side of the world. I was thinking they can give her white harpy-like wings on her arms, or glowing blue markings on her body.

LeafyGreen4 votes

I don't know if you played when her old splash was out but....they changed her splash a couple years ago and actually made her more 'in-human' as you said. They made her ears much bigger, and amplified the alien look in her eyes (and they also heavily reduced her cup size). Yes I think people were right that she was a little "uglier" but I think it gave her a bit more personality in general.

AugustHeatHaze3 votes

a renaissance painting inspired character is a great idea, this is how you give characters few clothes while having it be an actually good character design i feel like a lot of people don't understand that the people who object to the "sexy" designs don't have a problem with nudity or sexy stuff, it should just have a coherent theme that isn't "everyone gets bikini's and flat stomachs and the same bodytype HIGH HEELS TOO"

turning her bikini into the nudeness of ancient art and culture.

would be really good because its an actual "aesthetic" its not just """sexy""" which a LOT of the champs are

also when i say sexy i mean sexy for a specific group of people, personally i don't find leo's high heels or boobplate sexy, i find it silly, i DO find full platemail sexy.

here are some examples that riot could take inspiration from

venus with a mirror https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venus_with_a_Mirror

birth of venus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birth_of_Venus

hey, look, venus has a bit of fat on her arms and a bit in the belly, its not completely flat, we should also include that.

alternatively, i prefer this, just cover her in long flowing fabric that doesn't seem to have a certain form, you cant really tell if its clothes or not, like shes just wrapping herself in a huge sheet and that sheet is the wind and sky https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2e/d5/38/2ed53846b86b3b04f1db8a1143baa7f7.jpg this SORTA shows what i mean

i think we could give the venus look to a new character because janna is a wind goddess not a goddess of love

LeafyGreen2 votes

I love these examples you brought up.

There are some good depictions on this website on the myth of the wind god Boreas and Orithyia

https://www.greeklegendsandmyths.com/orithyia.html

Orithyia specifically has these flowing ribbons around her that almost fade into the background at some parts, while also masking her body.

AugustHeatHaze2 votes

those are great

Ackelope2 votes

the 'flowing ribbons off into the distance' thing reminded me of a piece of art from an old mobile game i played years ago: https://www.deviantart.com/hugohugo/art/DH2-faeries-528898637

right side of the 2nd row in the linked picture.

KnifeCat2 votes

They should give her a few pieces of leaves for clothing.

PaladinNO8 votes
OverpoweredSoap2 votes

That's not really being sexualized though, I think?

Being sexualized is when a character is needlessly sexual for no reason or it just doesn't mesh with their lore or personality (iirc).

Janna's kinda of makes sense because a goddess, so her being beautiful and perfect like makes sense since most gods who are worshiped are expected to be so or are depicted as such.

At least it makes sense with her current lore.

LeafyGreen1 votes

It makes sense, but honestly her current outfit just looks kinda random to me. If you didn't read her lore, I don't think first impressions would imply she's some sort of primordial wind elemental.

AugustHeatHaze3 votes

right! exactly, personally i would cover her in long flowing fabric so its like shes being clothed by the sky, it could possibly change color.

sort of like this https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2e/d5/38/2ed53846b86b3b04f1db8a1143baa7f7.jpg

AugustHeatHaze7 votes

but janna is needlessly sexual for no reason, why is she wearing underwear and a bra? theres no reason except for it to be sexy

Ifneth9 votes

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but janna is needlessly sexual for no reason, why is she wearing underwear and a bra? theres no reason except for it to be sexy

Exactly. Janna should wear a pale gown of wind with a noble expression on her face, proudly yet impassively saving Zaun from certain doom. She could have an arch-rivalry with Urgot, whom she regards as an abomination dragging Zaun into darkness.

I can hear the quotes now,

“Stand not against the gale!” “The wind howls cold in evil’s halls.” “For life, I stand.” “I am the breath become the breeze.”

rtbf2256182413 votes

Unfortunately, most people here fail to see that and think of her as some whore goddess like Aphrodite.

OverpoweredSoap2 votes

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but janna is needlessly sexual for no reason, why is she wearing underwear and a bra? theres no reason except for it to be sexy

lmao, I don't know what I was thinking when I wrote this. She does actually look really nude actually, guess I thought she was more covered up or something.

She can look perfect without having to show her entire body off, though I don't think showing off her entire body is a bad thing (most gods and goddesses are shown naked when depicted iirc) it doesn't really work for Janna.

AugustHeatHaze2 votes

i think it could work, the problem is that among the cast of ladies it wouldn't actually stand out as a interesting design choice because the majority of the women are needlessly sexual in some way either by being half naked, having skin tight clothes or boobplate and high heels so they are sexual and its not even an interesting sexual its just incredibly boring and takes me out of the fantasy because... high heels, really? a battle angel needs to show that THERES TITS UNDER HERE GUYS, really?

anyway the the problem with janna's current outfit is janna isn't wearing clothes similar to those depicted in some wonderful renaissance paintings there is the birth of venus and that wind related deity op linked if janna had a skin or two like that it would be great assuming the rest of the cast gets more practical clothes too.

EROTIC RAID BOSS2 votes

She is needlessly sexualized

NekoniClaws2 votes

I'd like Janna's playerbase to be catered to first and foremost... which might be mostly girls. Not saying she can't be sexy under your model, but I wouldn't consider her sexualized if sexyness is just a side effect of being pretty and nude.

I want more clothes on Janna. The white doesn't stand out very well when playing her she she already passes for naked at a glance, and I play league around prying eyes.

LeafyGreen3 votes

Yes, it's the classic eve vs jinx. They both aren't wearing much clothing but players would mostly agree Jinx isn't sexualized because they aren't taking the focus of > she is psycho and likes explosions < and putting it on her body. I think Janna should stay a bit revealing, but not to make the focus of her personality being sexual, but to enhance her divine figure.

KestrelGirl1 votes

I actually had an idea for Janna VU. She wouldn't end up wearing anything 'cause she's a spirit. But her ethereal body would have kind of morphed over time to look like Zaunite clothing. So like, she would appear to be wearing a work shirt and/or corset and short baggy pants, with gear designs on her shoulders or arms. Is this what you're after or a bit much?

LeafyGreen3 votes

We've got hextech Janna! See what they did with Hextech Sion, I'm sure an updated version of Janna's would be much like what you want

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