The sad irony of Demacia and Noxus is that...........

Xodiathe4bdn1··42 votes·4,636 views

The core values by which they define themselves have become twisted in their efforts to uphold them and shall lead to both their downfalls

https://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/0/04/Demacia_Crest.png/revision/latest?cb=20170323183222 Demacia has many good values but it defines itself by one : UNITY. Unity against its enemy's, unity through their hardships and united under peace and prosperity. Unity but only from within itself. Any outside of its views cannot be part of its unity as this would coincide with Demacias founding emotion: Fear. Despite the obstacles and challenges it has faced and beaten, Demacia never truly overcame its fear of the unknown but instead have put a wall or 'shield' around it. Sure there have been good reasons along the centuries to put up its 'shield' to protect itself but then the shield never comes down so they also block the bad AND the GOOD that is out in the world. They have never faced the fear thus it has festered until Fear turns to Hate and Hate has turned to destruction as they see any aspects outside their own as a threat which must be 'removed'. One day there will come a time when Demacia will face a threat its shield cannot stop and unless it truly learns unity then they will be facing the threat 'alone'

https://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/e/e9/Noxus_Crest.png/revision/latest?cb=20161117055949 Now we come to Noxus which has valued strength above all else. In a way it is better at unity then demacia as it values all forms of strength for the betterment of Noxus but the great difference is that this strength in itself is selfish not selfless. Anyone regardless of birth, gender , or background can achieve greatness so long as they have the strength to take it, which sounds almost democratic as any have a chance at the top but it has created a cutthroat environment whereby in order to reach the top, you must bring others down. Noxus is rooted in war and conquest of cities, nations and regions to better 'strengthen' Noxus and become part of its Great Dream. However inoder for conquered nations not to see themselves as separate from the noxian machine, Noxus continuously needs to expand and conquer to give the states a common enemy to fight and unite against. But the moment there is no longer an enemy to fight and conquer, there is suddenly no one to fight but each other. One day there will be no top for Noxus to climb, which leaves only the bottom which will make it a free for all until there is nothing of Noxus left

Riot has done a very good job with their portrayals of Noxus and Demacia by no longer making them completely black and white in nature but shades of grey in each side and show that there is no perfect ideology no matter the strengths and successes

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Valaran Nara8 votes

Well, my friend, while I agree with you on everything you said, there is something you have forgotten: The Hero of the Hammer.

Poppy is the hero. Once she realizes, she's going to whoop up on every single baddy that comes Dem's way.

Xodiathe4bdn131 votes

Which reminds me I forgot to mention the two beings that embody Demacia and Noxus more then Garen and Darius

Poppy and Kled Poppy personifies all that demacia can be but has become blinded by the path it has set and can never realize its full potential unless it stops and looks within

Kled is the madness that has fueled Noxus' desire to keep on fighting but if it doesn't find its inner peace, it will rip itself apart one day when there are no more battles to fight

KoKoboto4 votes

Nah. Kled has moments of peace when he is around nature and Skaarl. If there were no more fights and he finally reached his goal of owning everything he would be chill.

I'm not sure if Poppy is a direct personification of Demacian values... She's a hero but nothing really makes her more Demacian than Jarvan and stuff.

Xodiathe4bdn15 votes

Poppy upholds what she sees as a sacred duty while protecting people regardless of who they are, if that isn't Demacian I don't know what is

And the peace kled feels is only temporary cause there will always be people on his 'property' so he must defend it and expand where he can. I don't know about you but that a lot like Noxian expansionist drive. They must always want more so they will always fight and never gain lasting peace

KoKoboto5 votes

Yeah she's Demacian but I could say Garen, Jarvan, Lux, Galio, Lucian are the same. There's not enough examples to say that Poppy is true Demacian over all of them.

So you got two things here with Kled. You say that when there's no more battles to fight he will go insane but you also say that because he will always have to fight he will never be sane?? Choose one lol...

But anyways that's an assumption on Kled. You don't know if he wants the whole world and he never says that. He only talks about defending his own property and how he loves nature + Skaarl. You don't know if Kled is an insatiable Yordle bent on controlling the whole world. Even if he was he would never "break", he's already insane lol and he chills once the fight is over.

THE RlVER KlNG1 votes

this is an excellent comment btw

Tommy PickleNose1 votes

+1 because poppy

CasterGilgamesh1 votes

hero doesn't mean much to be honest since the only defining trait of the hero is someone who can wield the hammer for every force there is a counter force out there.So it only makes sense that there is someone in noxus or on its side that will rival poppy.If everything just bowed to a hero like poppy then this whole story would just be "poppy carried Demacia to victory" there would be no reason to continue the story

Border Knight7 votes

What i like about noxus is that it use everything it can for accompishing it's goals from necromancy Sion blood magic Vladimir , dark arts Elise tricks and decieving Leblanc Cassiopeia and the best assassins of runeterra Katarina Talon

Add in some tactical genius to use those combined forces Swain , the brute force leading the expendable infantry Darius Draven and the occasional Kled intervention and you get a pretty much unstoppable force outside some op shit like Galio .

Extra points for being ruthless and making alliances with some of the worse mofo's of the planet, aka bligewater and the chem barons, as auxiliaries.

KuroCaliber1 votes

Actually under gp, Noxus had bad relations with bilgewater. As of new lore anyway. Unknown how Noxus sees bilgewater now that gp is presumed dead

Border Knight1 votes

True, i was thinking about the old lore, that during ionia invasion they used bilgwater pirates to scourge the ionian coasts.

Also, gp stole Swain flagship after his "accident" so they still probably hate that cirty of thieves and cutthroat.

DorsalChicken5 votes

Makes me wonder what will happen when the war between the two nations comes to a climax. If the spear of Noxus were to break upon Demacia's shield and they fail the invasion, would some of the regions controlled by Noxus see this as a weakness and attempt a rebellion, forcing a fight on two fronts? Or perhap Demacia's shield shatters and they are forced to turn to the magic that they have scorned for so long, again possibly creating a dived from within. The new lore is adding so much hype man.

...Void event when plz?

Xodiathe4bdn11 votes

An excellent point I can see this happening one day as both nations may soon see and internal upheaval when the Aspects of Strength and Unity fall short and who better to be the ones to bring about this turmoil then their sworn 'opposites'

And he'll yeah to Void event🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿🤘🏿 At this point all stories lead to the void

50000000000000001 votes

Perhaps even drain the magical power from Galio?

Ralanr4 votes

I know. Isn't it wonderful!

gamer time3 votes

Reminds me of capitalism (noxus) vs communism (demacia) in the sense that Demacia values equality and community (unity) and noxus values strength (efficiency) over all else.

It's definitely not the same thing but the similarities are striking.

Stars Shaper2 votes

I wish we could have another Demacian soon.

With the new Universe I really want to know more about it.

Fasmodey2 votes

Damn son, you're fan of Xerath, you're fan of Shurima.

HERETIC. I'm calling Azir.

https://i.imgflip.com/1t7s89.jpg

Stars Shaper2 votes

I'm a Paladin at the heart xD And my fav is always AurelionSol

Fasmodey2 votes

Still reported, have fun with scorching sands. :)

Fasmodey2 votes

Shh, It is Xerath's job to turn Shurima a giant glass.

CasterGilgamesh2 votes

personally, i feel Noxus is missing a virtue that should have been said.. and that it should value courage and strength it shouldn't matter if you are a weakling as long as you stand and fight no matter the odds.You should gain respect in noxus not to just knocking things down but for being able to get back up even when knocked down. (this was off topic but what i just wanted to say about noxus)

ZT Xperimentor2 votes

Sounds like how modern politics have eroded over the decades.

KoKoboto1 votes

Nah... The glory of Demacia will never fade.

I don't think either will fail just because of how they are.

Jeddy0172 votes

Yeah, it will never fade...but, it will likely changes when forced to.

LtHoiz1 votes

Well luckily we have the Freljord and Ionia

Meep Man1 votes

I always thought the bad side for each nation was that Demacia, despite being the "good guys", were incredibly snobby and strict with laws to the point where whoever is in charge can make something a law and there is hardly any individual freedom. Then there is Noxus where there is a lack of boundaries set up for society and rather disgusting, twisted, and dark practices can be left unchecked or even motivated to be continued, simply due to Noxus' insane desire for power and strength.

Xano5011 votes

First, I use to loved how Noxus and Demacia have conflict about politics. Noxus have more reason to do because they want their country survive and Demacia not good at all. But now, since RIOT rebooted all lores. Demacia is complete hero and Noxus is complete villain. I start to hate League of Legends when I see Noxus killing innocent peoples.

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