@REAV3 and worldbuilders : clarity on which champions are vastaya

Xodiathe4bdn1··1 votes·1,000 views

I , like many others, am very confused on which of the many anthromorphic champions are vistaya Now looking at the new lore provided we can say that all the vastaya have two common qualities Magical attunment and Ionian origin There are three groups of vastaya

  1. anthromorphs: complete animalistic features but walk upright
  2. Hybrids: blends of human and animal features
  3. Shapeshifters: those that can freely shift between completely human and completely animal

Some characters share these qualities completely or partially and since some have incomplete lore it we don't know for sure so I'm going to speculate some who may be vastaya and what traits work for or against them to be vastaya Ahri: confirmed vastaya hybrid Alistar: while he has the body of anthro, his current lore speaks of being a species outside of ionia and there are no magical elements in his abilities Nidalee : she has all the states to be a shapeshifter but her origin is kumungu. We know kumungu is canon thanks to Ivern so now the question now is its location. If it is Ionia then we could safely call Nidalee a vastaya shape shifter Rengar: a possible anthromorphic vastaya but the nature of his stealth is ambiguous in that it could be magical or technological . Also his claim of being the best hunter in runeterra would require him to go far to hunt beasts of different locations so his origin could be of another species outside Ionia MonkeyKing: a very likely anthromorphic vastaya when no cons to say other wise

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Tesla Effect1 votes

Alistar Fizz Trundle Volibear Nami maybe all races of vastaya (each race having its own special name) within the vastaya taxonomy.

Elise Elise and Shyvana Shyvana maybe special cases of vastaya created not by natural magicks, but with dark magicks.

Kayle, Morgana, Soraka may also be another form of vastaya from celestial natures.

Twitch and Warwick maybe vastaya through artificial chem tech means.

Vastaya is also a vast taxonomy for all sentient chimeric beings evolved through magical means. While some individual races within the taxonomy are also called Vastaya, that doesnt stop each individual races, sub-races, special individuals being called vastaya in the same named taxonomy.

This may also explain the in-universe existence of chimeric beings of close to near human nature, all share magical natures and their forms being created from magical means (natural magicks, dark magicks, celestial magicks, chem techmaturgy).

I wouldnt be even surprised if the Ascended are just another form of vastaya...given that in the journal some vastaya can also be considered immortal and legendary in nature, just created by solar magicks.

This would differenciate them from elemental beings like Dragons, Brackern Skarner , Monoliths Malphite , and Phoenixes Anivia, tree-beings Ivern Maokai , which maybe also given a special taxonomy for their own natures.

For me it seems there are 5 types of taxonomies for sentient beings: Human, Vastaya (chimeric beings), Elementals (natural elementals and elementals of artificial means like Iceborn; it may also consider Celesital beings within the Elemental taxonomy like Bard or Aurelion Sol), Spirits (including Demons, Darkin, Undead, and Yordles), Void (all voidborn void like beings)

Xodiathe4bdn11 votes

And this is the great problem people are having Calling any champion with human and animal properties vastaya I'm limiting the term of vastaya to Ionia because having the term be used to describe all anthro/hybrid/shapeshifting champions is lazy story telling Minotaurs are minotaurs Trolls are trolls merfolk are merfolk And vastaya are vastaya

Tesla Effect1 votes

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And this is the great problem people are having Calling any champion with human and animal properties vastaya I'm limiting the term of vastaya to Ionia because having the term be used to describe all anthro/hybrid/shapeshifting champions is lazy story telling Minotaurs are minotaurs Trolls are trolls merfolk are merfolk And vastaya are vastaya

But humans are not just humans, we are Homo sapien sapiens of the Human taxonomy. You also have races, subraces, and special individuals of the Human taxonomy that still can be considered human, but are effectively another races on the same Human taxonomy branch.

This does not exclude the races being what they are, this would just connect them all through similar natures in a larger taxonomy which would give this world room to expand the origins of each of the individual races, subraces, special individual characters.

It is not a form of lazy writting, its a form of brilliant writting which at its core has worldbuilding elements that can explain the worlds magical sentient chimeric beings and their existence and origins. Its something Blizzards and other fantasy settings built, so Riot doing it is also a next logical step.

Yordles are yorles, but they are also a form of spirits, which are part of the larger branch of spirits which include branches like Kindred, Demons, Darkin, and the Undead. The Spirit branch is closely connected to the branch of Elemental beings, which are also connected to the branch of Humans, Vastaya. Voidborn are not part of this life tree description, they are their own separate tree due to currently Void being described as something entirely different and distant from the main LoL universe, its a dimension with its own form of existence...completely alien of what the universes life and forms of life are.

Xodiathe4bdn11 votes

Then by this guideline what would you consider yordles

Tesla Effect1 votes

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Then by this guideline what would you consider yordles

I already told you what Yordles are.

Xodiathe4bdn11 votes

Forgive me I missed that Spirits? Seriously They live long and their perception and interactions with the world are different but they live, breath and die like every other mortal race

Tesla Effect1 votes

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Forgive me I missed that Spirits? Seriously They live long and their perception and interactions with the world are different but they live, breath and die like every other mortal race

They are not seen by normal races of the world in the same manner as they precieve themselves, they are not limited to exist only on Runeterra, they are longliving, architype based characteristics. Plus we dont even know if they breath or die like normal races, they are their own form of special beings closely connected to spiritual beings like Tahm Kench, Kindred, and Darkin (not to mention they are always associated as spirits by the well intuned champions like Illaoi).

Xodiathe4bdn11 votes

Had the author in the story said something along the lines of vastaya of Ionia then I'd be obliged to believe it is a general taxonomy by all chimeric sentient beings but he seems to only use this term the creatures he encountered in IONIA

Tesla Effect1 votes

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Had the author in the story said something along the lines of vastaya of Ionia then I'd be obliged to believe it is a general taxonomy by all chimeric sentient beings but he seems to only use this term the creatures he encountered in IONIA

Will see if it has a deeper connection to all beast races, might might not.

Sharjo1 votes

Just wanna put this out there; the vastaya's lineage all traces back to the same place. It's perhaps not as broad as you're thinking.

Tesla Effect1 votes

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Just wanna put this out there; the vastaya's lineage all traces back to the same place. It's perhaps not as broad as you're thinking.

Then what are and arent vastaya, because the description is vague enough to place all beast races of near to close human nature.

Sharjo1 votes

Can't say atm. I would say go back over what Eduardo was talking about, he can provide better insight right now than I can.

Xodiathe4bdn11 votes

Ahhhh Clarity from sharjo ( despite its ambiguity) Well I'm settled

Moonboy651 votes

Nami is from a race known as the Marai

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