I'm not sure if Kalista died or not in her updated lore but if she did, what did Kindred do during her death?
Kalista's updated lore:http://www.surrenderat20.net/2015/10/red-post-collection-dev-blog-on.html
LordHippoman2 votesPretty much what they've always done, been there as it happened.
Kindred is literally Death, after all.
Fowus1 votesYeah they were definitely there, but I wanna know if they talked or not and if so what did they talk about
YCitizenSnipsY2 votes"Kindred is literally Death"
No Kindred isn't.
Sukishoo3 votesHi.
"Separate, but never parted, Kindred represents the twin essences of death."
said right in the lore. Therefore, YES, they are indeed death.
YCitizenSnipsY2 votesIn order for kindred to be "death" they must be responsible for the death of all things, not just humans but plants and animals as well since they all "die." Kindred is not death every death that happens is not because of kindred.
Death isn't a person or even something that can take a physical form, its just a word that describes something that reaches the end of its existence.
Just like there cant be any champion that is "literally life." There is no physical form for that its just a state to describe something.
Ebonmaw Dragon2 votesIn order for kindred to be "death" they must be responsible for the death of all things, not just humans but plants and animals as well since they all "die." Kindred is not death every death that happens is not because of kindred.
Death isn't a person or even something that can take a physical form, its just a word that describes something that reaches the end of its existence.
Just like there cant be any champion that is "literally life." There is no physical form for that its just a state to describe something.
They ARE responsible for the death of all things... at least the ones with a spirit.
YCitizenSnipsY1 votesWhere can you prove that statement of yours. Lore? Because their are plenty of things in Lore that don't agree with that statement.
Here all this time I thought it was Gangplank that was responsible for Miss Fortune's mothers death, my apologies that was actually kindred, you see how I could make the mistake.
Kindred is not death no amount of things you just make up to try to cover for that will persuade me. Please prove me wrong tell me in detail how Kindred is actually death and responsible for all the deaths over the LoL world, even when they happen every where at once. Tell me how Kindred can physically be in multiple places at once to see these deaths through because I apparently missed that part of the lore.
Ebonmaw Dragon4 votesWhere can you prove that statement of yours. Lore? Because their are plenty of things in Lore that don't agree with that statement.
Here all this time I thought it was Gangplank that was responsible for Miss Fortune's mothers death, my apologies that was actually kindred, you see how I could make the mistake.
Kindred is not death no amount of things you just make up to try to cover for that will persuade me. Please prove me wrong tell me in detail how Kindred is actually death and responsible for all the deaths over the LoL world, even when they happen every where at once. Tell me how Kindred can physically be in multiple places at once to see these deaths through because I apparently missed that part of the lore.
They are not directly the ones that kill the person, but they are **always **present when a person dies, and they are the ones that take the life of those who die... unless there is necromancy involved.
And as for your "Tell me how Kindred can physically be in multiple places at once to see these deaths through because I apparently missed that part of the lore."
http://news.cdn.leagueoflegends.com/public/images/pages/2015/agd/img/kindred-image4.png
They simply can, they are the grim reaper of Runeterra.... but they are not "physically" there, they are some kind of "spirit"
YCitizenSnipsY2 votesIf its not in the offical lore, since its damn well not in their gameplay, then that statement is just something your making up to support your theory.
Like I said before death isn't something physical that takes on a form. And if Kindred is only there when someone dies, no what to prove this, and not actually responsible for the death its self they they aren't exactly death are they since they death wasn't their doing.
If Kindred is just someone who shows up to collect souls, than are Thresh and Kalista also "death"? Since they do the same things.
I'm tired of this omnipotent bull crap that Riot keeps given their champions, its just cheap and not believable.
Ebonmaw Dragon4 votesIf its not in the offical lore, since its damn well not in their gameplay, then that statement is just something your making up to support your theory.
Like I said before death isn't something physical that takes on a form. And if Kindred is only there when someone dies, no what to prove this, and not actually responsible for the death its self they they aren't exactly death are they since they death wasn't their doing.
If Kindred is just someone who shows up to collect souls, than are Thresh and Kalista also "death"? Since they do the same things.
I'm tired of this omnipotent bull crap that Riot keeps given their champions, its just cheap and not believable.
Ummm... what? its not a theory dude, its was literally said by Riot, Kindred themselves in their VO (http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/a/a5/Kindred.move06.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20150916183035&filename=Kindred.move06.ogg http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/c/c9/Kindred.move23.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20150916183210&filename=Kindred.move23.ogg http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/0/0e/Kindred.move26.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20150916183211&filename=Kindred.move26.ogg http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/7/7a/Kindred.taunt02.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20150916183249&filename=Kindred.taunt02.ogg http://vignette3.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/7/76/Kindred.markKill08.ogg/revision/latest?cb=20150916182849&filename=Kindred.markKill08.ogg) and in the lore "A Good Death"(The picture showing tons of Lamb and Wolf itself is from his lore)
Do you want the quotes of the Rioters? here are a few of them:
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[{quoted}](name=Riot Stellari,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=H8socwE1,comment-id=003d0000,timestamp=2015-09-29T18:28:49.516+0000)
They definitely not evil. But they're not positive/negative either. They're a force of nature. Kind of like a tornado isn't inherently good/evil.
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Kindred are present across Runeterra. They hunt depending on the manner of death chosen by those whose lives are about to end. Those who embrace their death are released by the swift arrow of Lamb. Wolf chases down anyone who flees from their fate. It isn't a pretty way to go.
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The reason for the death is irrelevant to Kindred, it's how the person meets it that matters.
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Everyone that dies has a direct interaction with Kindred. Some get to mee them earlier, others only at the moment of death.
5> [{quoted}](name=Family Jules,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=H8socwE1,comment-id=0028000000000000,timestamp=2015-09-30T00:26:47.837+0000)
Kindred shows up to take all souls (muahahaha!), whether natural or not. Per your example, if all of Gangplank's crew were to die, Kindred would absolutely be there in those final moments.
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Kindred don't choose who to take. They are the moment of death. If you see them, it's your time. Some people narrowly escape death, but watch it claim others -- people who survive tragedy -- and in that case it's an awakening one's own mortality.
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Pre-split Kindred is a myth that has become widespread across Runeterra, though the myth will be present among its people, we're not planning on telling a specific story about what Kindred was before they were Kindred—as that is what they have always been.
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Kindred is a character that straddles the border between life and death. Lamb interacts with the world more physically than Wolf does to draw that parallel.
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Quick deaths are the realm of Lamb whereas slow, lingering deaths are in the realm of Wolf. Hope this clears up a little of the issue for you.
10> [{quoted}](name=Riot Stellari,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=H8socwE1,comment-id=019b0001,timestamp=2015-09-29T22:02:57.892+0000)
Lamb & Wolf are just one of the interpretations of Kindred in Runeterra.
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Of course he seemed eager, he's the brutal, more animal side of Death. If he lacked restraint, he would just have killed Magha (or however you spell it) right then and there. Consider it a brush with Death, if you will.
Death... doesn't really care. If it's your time to die, it's your time to die. Period. End of story.
Nobody has "more of a reason" to die according to Kindred, they're more of a neutral force of nature than some good/bad guy. Good guys die just as well as bad guys. And, well... Kindred hates the Shadow Isles for a reason. Karthus has basically perverted death. If Kindred could claim him, they would have by now.
Judgement isn't really up to them. Even if somebody doesn't deserve to die in our eyes, they die when its their time. Kindred doesn't have the same morality we do, they aren't even human. Does a wolf care about the sheep it slays? Will a cat feel regret for playing with a mouse? It's nature, not subject to human law or ideal. Nailed it, Tombdragon! Well stated.
(I cant find the exact quote where a Rioter said that they are the Grim Reaper of Runeterra... but you get the idea)
Melancholy Exile1 votesI suppose that, to try and make sense of the stated order of events, we have to assume that Kalista not only ran from Wolf but evaded his jaws long enough to be torn from his grasp when the Black Mist was unleashed upon the Blessed Isle.
If Kindred and Kalista spoke at all it presumably would have centred on her refusal to pass on while the traitor, Hecarim, went unpunished for his crimes.
