Riot, Can you please not go with the heels on Championship Shyvana?

Life Of Nami··32 votes·10,182 views

Heels are just awful for the type of character she is. She's a brickwall badass, not a strutting eyecandy. She's a violent vicious hateful brawler, and heels are just so out of place on Shyvana.

I mean if it was any other female champion besides Vi, I wouldn't mind but both Vi and Shyvana are female powerhouse characters, can we please get some big ass badass stomps?

57 Comments

cshakes6 votes

Reposting my comment from your other thread here:

Honestly, I'd like for them to remove all high heels from the game. For example, Vayne is a mobile character, she shouldn't be wearing ankle-breakers. Leona is the Wrath of the Sun (TM) who dives into the enemy and whacks them with the power of the Sun, why would she be wearing things that interfere with her balance?

Chromatic Eagle4 votes

For me it depends on the woman. Mobile champions like Vayne shouldn't need heels. Others like LeBlanc and Caitlyn I can tolerate because it matches their theme. People like Syndra and Sona I like because they float.

Oharris5 votes

I think the legs are the part of the skin that needs worked on the most (if at all). The rest of the outfit is clad in bulky metal armor, which makes her look like the cool back line diving tank she is. But the legs are far less bulky than the rest of the outfit. They also pointlessly show off a small snipet of her thighs where almost the entire rest of her is armored. I feel these two differences hurt the overall theme of the skin. I think they could keep the look of dragon foot boots without making them thigh highs (perhaps full greaves?) or looking noticeably more thin than the rest of the outfit.

Life Of Nami4 votes

I think the legs are the part of the skin that needs worked on the most (if at all). The rest of the outfit is clad in bulky metal armor, which makes her look like the cool back line diving tank she is. But the legs are far less bulky than the rest of the outfit. They also pointlessly show off a small snipet of her thighs where almost the entire rest of her is armored. I feel these two differences hurt the overall theme of the skin. I think they could keep the look of dragon foot boots without making them thigh highs (perhaps full greaves?) or looking noticeably more thin than the rest of the outfit.

I agree that the leg armor side of her outfit doesn't fit except for the battleskirt. That's always been a Shyvana thing(all her skins except darkflame). I'm glad the kept the battleskirt theme, but they need to bulk up her boots and remove the high heels. They did claw tips on her icedrake skin, and vayne also has clawtips on her dragonslayer(but it looks wrong). They can do clawtips, but they need to shrink them down and get rid of the heel.

Tsunday5 votes

Heels are just awful for the type of character she is.

So basically you're saying the heels are only allowed to be worn by certain types of women? Or that heels in general make you perceive a woman in a certain way?

She's a brickwall badass, not a strutting eyecandy.

Dude they're shoes, they don't turn a woman from a brickwall badass to eye candy. That's not how heels work. If a badass woman wears heels, she literally looms over you as she becomes taller. In Vi's case she'll be tall enough to look down at you with a balled up fist and threaten you to tell her what you said again. Shyvana becomes this massive dragon, and when she's a human she's got the heels to prove she's still bigger than you.

Taller women can be very intimidating because guys never seem to want to be shorter than a woman.

can we please get some big ass badass stomps?

She [i]is[/i] wearing a pair of badass stomps. If a woman doesn't know how to wear her heels in an intimidating stompy way then she's just not badass to begin with. I wear heels almost everyday and I don't get treated like eye candy because of it. You assert your dominance the same way you would without heels.

Life Of Nami12 votes

Heels are just awful for the type of character she is.

So basically you're saying the heels are only allowed to be worn by certain types of women? Or that heels in general make you perceive a woman in a certain way?

She's a brickwall badass, not a strutting eyecandy.

Dude they're shoes, they don't turn a woman from a brickwall badass to eye candy. That's not how heels work. If a badass woman wears heels, she literally looms over you as she becomes taller. In Vi's case she'll be tall enough to look down at you with a balled up fist and threaten you to tell her what you said again. Shyvana becomes this massive dragon, and when she's a human she's got the heels to prove she's still bigger than you.

Taller women can be very intimidating because guys never seem to want to be shorter than a woman.

can we please get some big ass badass stomps?

She [i]is[/i] wearing a pair of badass stomps. If a woman doesn't know how to wear her heels in an intimidating stompy way then she's just not badass to begin with. I wear heels almost everyday and I don't get treated like eye candy because of it. You assert your dominance the same way you would without heels.

Women wear shoes for a purpose.

IIRC Shyvana is the tallest woman in the game flatfooted.(6ft+) Heels don't exaggerate somene's size, they exaggerate a woman's figure.

Tsunday3 votes

A woman with a her balanced centered around the heels of her feet is actually more stable in the right heels. Someone like Leona for example wouldn't be able to hold the stance she's in without heels. Shyvana didn't have her model repositioned for the championship skin, her standing stance was always the same as the model viewer screenshot above, if you just take away the heel from her boots then she's standing on her tiptoes. At that point she can't wear anything but dragon claw feet or heels because boots are going to make it harder to hold a tiptoe stance on.

Shyvana is never flatfooted in any of her skins, just saying. She has animal styled legs, which aren't shaped the way a flatfooted human's legs are. She stands in a position that looks like she should be wearing heels all day long. What heels really do for the figure is accentuate the shape of a woman's thighs. If she's already standing in that position, they're accentuated whether she's wearing heels or not. If she wears huge armored heeled boots then her 'accentuated thighs' should already be hidden away by armor.

And when the difference in the height average of men and women is about 2.5-3in, yes a pair of heels can make or break a woman's height.

cshakes14 votes

As someone who has worn heels: Nah. Heels are a very efficient way of losing your balance. It is possible to hold a Leona-like stance without heels, you just need a long-ish Achilles tendon (best achieved by, you guessed it, not wearing heels).

The best way to add height without breaking balance is to add a thick sole. Changes in posture are caused by the difference in sole heights at the ball and heel of the foot. The more extreme the angle, the more the spine curves unhealthily and juts out the tits and ass.

FYI, I consider the high heel postures found on many of the female champions a major failure of Riot's creative team.

Tsunday1 votes

Like I said it really depends on the person. I can run the mile in my sneaker wedges faster than I can run a mile in my track shoes. If you look at the soles of my shoes you'll notice in something like a flip flop the material is very full towards the front and about to rip through and disintegrate in the back end because although I have good running gates I place all the weight on the back of my foot and I have a very far back center of balance.

As for a thick sole, it really depends on the circumstance. It's easier to take stairs in heels than thick soles, as I've found from my 2 inch thick sole shoes because you're less likely to misplace the heel than you are to hit the sole of your shoe against the vertical part of the step.

I don't really think every champion needs a high heel type of posture, honestly, but I don't see the problem of a skin having heels. It's not like every Shyv skin has heels.

cshakes3 votes

The ability to wear heels and not fall over is a learned ability. Shyvana, Leona etc are not the kind of people who could afford the time involved to learn how to balance, let alone run.

AFAIK the natural gait of a human being (barefoot) is having the ball of the foot be the first piece of the foot on the ground, so the natural spring of the ankle can cushion the impact. Then the heel of the foot makes impact, then the foot springs off the ground.

Balance is learned. For high-impact activities where you have to be able to change your direction at a moment's notice, balancing over the balls of your feet is by far the best course of action, thus it makes no sense for any champion to purposefully re-learn an inferior posture and balance.

Notice how Summoner's Rift doesn't have any staircases? It's just up- and downhills, water and grass (both of which can be very slippery). I have tried walking downhill in heels (~2in, angle of descent similar to the ramps on SR), and I was reduced to a very, very, very slow teeter.

I admit that it's easier to go up stairs in heels than in platforms. However, it's the other way round for going down stairs (hard to lean far enough back without hurting your spine). In conclusion, just wear flats. It's much easier.

Life Of Nami1 votes

The ability to wear heels and not fall over is a learned ability. Shyvana, Leona etc are not the kind of people who could afford the time involved to learn how to balance, let alone run.

AFAIK the natural gait of a human being (barefoot) is having the ball of the foot be the first piece of the foot on the ground, so the natural spring of the ankle can cushion the impact. Then the heel of the foot makes impact, then the foot springs off the ground.

Balance is learned. For high-impact activities where you have to be able to change your direction at a moment's notice, balancing over the balls of your feet is by far the best course of action, thus it makes no sense for any champion to purposefully re-learn an inferior posture and balance.

Notice how Summoner's Rift doesn't have any staircases? It's just up- and downhills, water and grass (both of which can be very slippery). I have tried walking downhill in heels (~2in, angle of descent similar to the ramps on SR), and I was reduced to a very, very, very slow teeter.

I admit that it's easier to go up stairs in heels than in platforms. However, it's the other way round for going down stairs (hard to lean far enough back without hurting your spine). In conclusion, just wear flats. It's much easier.

The natural human stride is that the heel contacts the ground first with the Toes raised and the foot falls foward onto the ball. This loads energy into the tends in the back of the ankle(Achelies tendon and Calves) as well as the tendons in the bridge(arch) of the foot. When the toes contact the ground they spread out to grip as the heel comes off the ground and unleashes the stored energy in the tendons with acceleration from the calve muscles.

Heels effectively break this behavior by forcing the ball of the foot to contact the ground first completely elimitating the stretch and load of the tendons responsible for stride in humans.

Source: Anthropology/Human Biology

I posted a thread on general discussion about the design of Championship Shyvana and while the skin for me at least so far is just fine, the heels on the skin are very out of place, so I wanted to submit some feedback to the Art Team about the design of the skin

Here is the original thread: [url]http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4894927[/url]

My original Ticket response To the Skin design team and Art team at Riot games [url]http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=4894927[/url] There is a thread here on the forums about the addition of heels in the new Shyvana skin.

There is an overwhelmingly positive agreement that the character shouldn't be wearing heels as it does not fit the character herself. It's really out of place for the type of character that Shyvana is, personality and design wise. Honestly speaking the wedge heels Shyvana is wearing in her Ice drake skin are very odd and seemingly out of place for her character design. I would like to suggest that You do not use heels as part of her footwear in the championship skin, and I want to request that the designers keep Ice Drake as Shyvana's "feminine"/"pretty" skin.

On a personal level, Shyvana is my favorite Champion in the game, and she is honestly the only reason I keep playing this game. She's a fantastic character and is easily a fantastic example of how to create interesting and fun female characters. I would hope that Riot would maintain the amazing character you've created. I'm quite thankful for her existence. If there was one favor I could ask of Riot, is to create some awesome more practical footwear for my favorite champion and her next fantastic skin. I would be very grateful

Thank you for lending an ear.

This was the reply I got to the ticket I sent in about the issue I would like to get changed.

Life Of Nami1 votes

This was the reply I got to the ticket I sent in about the issue I would like to get changed.

Shorty Peewee (League of Legends Player Support)

Sep 28 10:55

Greetings Summoner,

Thanks for sharing this with me! I must say, judging by your Summoner Name, I can say that you love Shyvana so much and I can't blame you if her heels on the Championship skin is bothering you. =)

As of the moment, I really can't forward it directly to our Art team. If you have a cool idea you want to share, I suggest posting this on our forums. There are a lot of creative ideas there, and you can get helpful feedback and support from your fellow Summoners.

You can find the forums here:

NA - [url]http://www.leagueoflegends.com/board/forumdisplay.php?f=40[/url]

I understand that you have posted a thread already. They check the forums every day for feedback from the community, and while we cannot respond to everyone's thoughts we're committed to taking our player's feedback into consideration with every decision we make.

Don’t hesitate to let me know if you have any other concerns!

Best Regards,

Shorty Peewee Riot Player Support the Daring Bombardier

Life Of Nami8 votes

A woman with a her balanced centered around the heels of her feet is actually more stable in the right heels. Someone like Leona for example wouldn't be able to hold the stance she's in without heels. Shyvana didn't have her model repositioned for the championship skin, her standing stance was always the same as the model viewer screenshot above, if you just take away the heel from her boots then she's standing on her tiptoes. At that point she can't wear anything but dragon claw feet or heels because boots are going to make it harder to hold a tiptoe stance on.

Shyvana is never flatfooted in any of her skins, just saying. She has animal styled legs, which aren't shaped the way a flatfooted human's legs are. She stands in a position that looks like she should be wearing heels all day long. What heels really do for the figure is accentuate the shape of a woman's thighs. If she's already standing in that position, they're accentuated whether she's wearing heels or not. If she wears huge armored heeled boots then her 'accentuated thighs' should already be hidden away by armor.

And when the difference in the height average of men and women is about 2.5-3in, yes a pair of heels can make or break a woman's height.

I'm pretty sure you're not aware of how female anatomy works.

DG Ashabel8 votes

A woman with a her balanced centered around the heels of her feet is actually more stable in the right heels.

Wearing high heels actually shifts your balance to the front of your foot, genius.

Also, Shyvana actually wears leather boots in Classic, sandals in Boneclaw and heavy armored greaves in Darkflame and Ironscale. Ice Drake is the only skin where she's not flat-footed and those dumbass stiletto heels she wears in it are a major reason why a lot of people dislike it.

EDIT: Actually, now that I've examined her model in 3D View, her stance is the traditional karate one. It's about as far from a stance that would need heels as it possibly can be.

Tsunday2 votes

Like I said a woman wither balance centered around her heels (aka a backoriented balance) wearing heels (aka something that shifts your body forwards) straightens a woman's center of balance out.

Back pushed forward = center.

Although you say a lot of people dislike the Ice Drake skin, a lot of people who wear Shyv skins use her Ice Drake skin. It's different tastes, which is why she has more than just a classic skin.

cshakes2 votes

Ice Drake = Iceboob, which explains a lot of its popularity.

As someone who has been a dancer (balance involved!) and has also worn heels:

  • heels cause your tits and ass to stick out, curving the spine in a way that's harmful long-term
  • the posture where you have the best core control of your balance is when you push your hips forward
Criomhthann10 votes

So basically you're saying the heels are only allowed to be worn by certain types of women?

Yes.

Heels aren't worn for their utility in physically strenuous activity, they are worn largely to accent physical features (in this case, legs) in such a way that they suggest fertility. They are vanity products. Same reason for push-up bras and red lipstick ("in heat", human females lips are flushed with blood, causing them tor redden and their breasts increase in size slightly; the vast majority of women's beauty products are made to simulate these effects, even eye products are meant to simulate the almost "droopy" effect that women have when brought to orgasm).

Any character that's designed for heavy "in-your-face" combat is always going to be better off, both in terms of actual fighting and internal thematic consistency, in some form of conventional footwear (shoes, boots, something of that nature). In the case of the heavily armored, they will always be better of in Greaves and Sabatons and the like.

The real question is one of model viewers. Almost all female designs in LoL are made with heels as being part of the basic form. Sabatons would be more consistent thematically speaking, but the model might look worse due to the fact that's it's not made for them.

cshakes5 votes

Almost all female designs in LoL are made with heels as being part of the basic form.

This is a problem. A petition for sports bras and appropriate (flat) footwear for all female champions, perhaps?

(Also, as an aside, it's interesting how lipstick (and a lot of other female beauty products) is phallic in shape, innit?)

Criomhthann1 votes

Flat footwear wouldn't necessarily be consistent with all female champions, nor all skins. Though it would be for any champion where the emphasis in terms of thematics is combat utility.

Regardless, I fear that any petition for the appropriate footwear of females would inevitably be met with outcrys of "feminazi" "cancer" and "kill yourselves you worthless SJWs." Gamers as a culture have never been the most mature or reasonable bunch, and that holds true for the league crowd.

Tsunday2 votes

Honestly it's not just "in heat" that make up is simulating. It's the general sympathetic nervous system which is used in any aroused situation such as running from a pack of lions, or any sort of physical activity or fight/flight situation.

Yes, a character made to be in your face is often better off with Greaves and the such, but that's why this is a skin (and one of many Shyv skins). It's kind of like fighting the point that Leona shouldn't have a pool party skin because she lacks her armor, or that Jayce shouldn't have a Debonair skin because he wouldn't be able to power slam with a fitted suit on.

Sona is never gonna dress for death metal music, trundle isn't gonna be able to keep a baseball cap on, Lucian doesn't seem to have time for soccer, and none of Jax's skins are ever going to thematically fit with anything but 'look at my not real weapon guys'. In Shyvana's classic skin I think it's very important to stick true to her character, after she's won her fight and become 'champion' Shyvana why can't she go crazy and wear something else? My problem with the OPs argument is more that they're saying she can never wear heels because she's supposed to be a badass chick. If there's a situation where she wants to put on a pair of heels whats wrong with her having heels and what does being 'badass' automatically mean the woman can never wear a pair of heels in her life?

Xulsigae3 votes

Honestly it's not just "in heat" that make up is simulating. It's the general sympathetic nervous system which is used in any aroused situation such as running from a pack of lions, or any sort of physical activity or fight/flight situation.

Yes, a character made to be in your face is often better off with Greaves and the such, but that's why this is a skin (and one of many Shyv skins). It's kind of like fighting the point that Leona shouldn't have a pool party skin because she lacks her armor, or that Jayce shouldn't have a Debonair skin because he wouldn't be able to power slam with a fitted suit on.

Sona is never gonna dress for death metal music, trundle isn't gonna be able to keep a baseball cap on, Lucian doesn't seem to have time for soccer, and none of Jax's skins are ever going to thematically fit with anything but 'look at my not real weapon guys'. In Shyvana's classic skin I think it's very important to stick true to her character, after she's won her fight and become 'champion' Shyvana why can't she go crazy and wear something else? My problem with the OPs argument is more that they're saying she can never wear heels because she's supposed to be a badass chick. If there's a situation where she wants to put on a pair of heels whats wrong with her having heels and what does being 'badass' automatically mean the woman can never wear a pair of heels in her life?

Because it really doesn't fit with the rest of the skin. If it was 'Fancy Dress Shyvana' (not a bad idea for a skin) it would be appropriate. It's not, it's Championship Shyvana, a skin for the celebration of battle in the arena, so it doesn't really make sense. No one is saying she could never wear heels if she wanted to, just that they don't fit in this skin. I know of no battle field condition where heels are an advantage. If there was one, men would wear heels too. As it is, they are used for looks and fashion, not fighting. I'm not a fan of Leona having heels either, and wouldn't mind if that was changed too.

Criomhthann1 votes

I know of no battle field condition where heels are an advantage.

That's because there isn't one. It's a simple matter of physics, really. With heels, one is putting out the same pressure as they would in sneakers... only they are doing so in a considerably smaller area.

Terrible for stability, and too unstable for proper mobility.

Criomhthann1 votes

Honestly it's not just "in heat" that make up is simulating. It's the general sympathetic nervous system which is used in any aroused situation such as running from a pack of lions, or any sort of physical activity or fight/flight situation.

Which is irrelevant because make-up and other vanity products are not created to simulate fear; likewise the effects of fear on the body produce different physical reactions even in something as small as facial structure changes than being horny does. The effects of fear and fuck should not be equivocated because they use the same system, nor should the effects make-up and other vanity products are intended to simulate.

Yes, a character made to be in your face is often better off with Greaves and the such, but that's why this is a skin (and one of many Shyv skins).

It's not merely that it is inconsistent with the idea of the champion itself. That's not even part of the discussion; skins aren't necessarily required to be consistent with the concepts present within the basal form of the champions themselves.

Skins are however required to be consistent with the concepts present within the skin. This is referred to as "internal consistency."

Now consider an up-armored skin where the idea is very clearly getting in your face an aggressively beating you into the ground. Now add high heels, a form of footwear which is known only for making the wearer look sexy and providing and unstable platform for mobility. Congratulations, the skin becomes a good example of internal inconsistency.

Sona is never gonna dress for death metal music...

In Universe, she did. Pentakill was a band which existed within the canon of the LoL Universe, the first two members of which were Mordekaiser and Sona. Technically speaking, it's not even inconsistent with Sona, as the Psychology which drives Metal Heads and Classical fans is identical. Of course none of this would be known if one had not read the JoJ.

It's also irrelevant to the larger point. A skin being inconsistent with the champion does not make up for the skin being inconsistent with itself. In the case it goes even further, the Victory concept is consistent (in theory) with the concepts presented within the character's basal form. As result, the heels just end up providing inconsistency with both.

In Shyvana's classic skin I think it's very important to stick true to her character, after she's won her fight and become 'champion' Shyvana why can't she go crazy and wear something else?

Warriors rarely do anything for no reason. They are even less likely to do something for no reason when what is being done could hamper their combat effectiveness, as heels necessarily would. Pragmatism is a warrior's go to rule set. One might wear heels in a dress during a social function (assuming they aren't on guard duty, or are BUT are required to blend in with the crowd), but one would never do so in a direct, violent confrontation.

Victory Shyvana does not strike me as a dress up skin for a social function. It also does not strike me as a mish mash skin for the hell of it. So there isn't an excuse for the internal thematic inconsistency.

If there's a situation where she wants to put on a pair of heels whats wrong with her having heels and what does being 'badass' automatically mean the woman can never wear a pair of heels in her life?

Being badass and appearing badass are two different concepts. This skin is as of now, neither. Incidentally, "being" badass is a matter of function, where as "appearing" badass is a matter of form. When measured in these contexts, heels will never be badass regardless of how they make one appear, simply by virtue of being an article of style rather than substance.

Chromatic Eagle4 votes

Those are regular heels. Not sexy heels, actual dragon/animal heels. Doesn't seem like a big deal to me.

Life Of Nami3 votes

Like I said it really depends on the person. I can run the mile in my sneaker wedges faster than I can run a mile in my track shoes.

Kay you're 100% full of crap and lying. It's one thing voicing an opinion, but Lying is not ok. Do not lie to people, do not fib, do not say things that aren't true. I know for a fact that, that statement is completely false because wedges/heels literally break the human stride that allows us to run efficiently. Heels, especially wedges 100% restrict the actuation of the tendons involved in push off, meaning you'd be using only your calves with no mechanical advantage, you wouldn't even be able to run at 75% the speed of a full human stride because so much of what a makes our stride efficient is completely lost when a person wears heels.

Stop lying to people. You're not getting anything past an Anthropologist, I know the anatomy of not just one but the 5 human species that were critical to our Evolution.

Dreamspitter2 votes

Like I said it really depends on the person. I can run the mile in my sneaker wedges faster than I can run a mile in my track shoes.

Kay you're 100% full of crap and lying. It's one thing voicing an opinion, but Lying is not ok. Do not lie to people, do not fib, do not say things that aren't true. I know for a fact that, that statement is completely false because wedges/heels literally break the human stride that allows us to run efficiently. Heels, especially wedges 100% restrict the actuation of the tendons involved in push off, meaning you'd be using only your calves with no mechanical advantage, you wouldn't even be able to run at 75% the speed of a full human stride because so much of what a makes our stride efficient is completely lost when a person wears heels.

Stop lying to people. You're not getting anything past an Anthropologist, I know the anatomy of not just one but the 5 human species that were critical to our Evolution.

"Can she run really fast in heels? Does she duck when a n%$#@ inna purple come by? If so....she a hoe." -Riley, The Boondocks

Life Of Nami2 votes

Like I said it really depends on the person. I can run the mile in my sneaker wedges faster than I can run a mile in my track shoes.

Kay you're 100% full of crap and lying. It's one thing voicing an opinion, but Lying is not ok. Do not lie to people, do not fib, do not say things that aren't true. I know for a fact that, that statement is completely false because wedges/heels literally break the human stride that allows us to run efficiently. Heels, especially wedges 100% restrict the actuation of the tendons involved in push off, meaning you'd be using only your calves with no mechanical advantage, you wouldn't even be able to run at 75% the speed of a full human stride because so much of what a makes our stride efficient is completely lost when a person wears heels.

Stop lying to people. You're not getting anything past an Anthropologist, I know the anatomy of not just one but the 5 human species that were critical to our Evolution.

"Can she run really fast in heels? Does she duck when a n%$#@ inna purple come by? If so....she a hoe." -Riley, The Boondocks

LOL I legit thought of this episode when wrote this.

Sunfield1 votes
Life Of Nami6 votes
Sunfield5 votes

Looool. I had to look real close, but this is hillarious. I thought those where boots imitating dragon razors, but those are heels with razors.

Tis be fashion

exiledFromBadmen2 votes

Yesssss... Heels are gonna tear you apart!!!!Shyvana

Rune Ocarina1 votes

I like them. Good job Riot. Please keep it.

SephithDarknesse5 votes

They look a lot like dragon feet, actually

http://imgur.com/EDQw7yg

AbiwonKenabi2 votes

That's what I was thinking. I overall like the feet and didn't really notice the heels until it was pointed out. I couldn't even see it in-game, had to use the model viewer.

Criomhthann2 votes

What the actual fuck?

moogle8901 votes

But....combat stilettos are awesome. She can kick ass and look fab at the same time.

Xulsigae3 votes

If it fit with the theme, sure. It doesn't though.

moogle8901 votes

I don't see what's the big deal. So what, she's got heels. The fact she can run and fight in them makes her more badass in my mind. This isn't that big a deal man, they're not oversexualizing a strong female character or anything like that, they just put some shoes on her.

Xulsigae3 votes

If you don't mind that's fine, nothing wrong with it. The reason I object is that it serves no purpose except to add a bit of 'flair.' Historically heels have never been used in battle. They are for fashion and accentuating body parts on a lady. It's a little bit of sexualization that is just not needed. Sort of an attitude thing of 'She's female and so must have heels.' Doesn't fit with the rest of the skin. Just not that kind of skin. If it was more like Secret Agent Miss Fortune, they would be most appropriate.

Dreamspitter1 votes

Heels are just awful for the type of character she is. She's a brickwall badass, not a strutting eyecandy. She's a violent vicious hateful brawler, and heels are just so out of place on Shyvana.

I mean if it was any other female champion besides Vi, I wouldn't mind but both Vi and Shyvana are female powerhouse characters, can we please get some big ass badass stomps?

UMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM-you forgot LEONA tank heels.

Criomhthann

They don't look any better on Leona, but as I recall when this was brought up, IronStylus gave his usual "Details, who needs them?" response that he usually gives to critiques like this.

OblongOtter1 votes

I wholeheartedly agree. Also lol your name.

Life Of Nami2 votes

I wholeheartedly agree. Also lol your name.

My IGN started out as a joke by my friends. I played Shyvana so much that one of my friends let out "Lol she might as well be your wife now"

And it just stuck, so that's how my IGN came to be.

Deathspeaker1 votes

You people are seriously kidding me right? That is not a high heel...

Life Of Nami2 votes

You people are seriously kidding me right? That is not a high heel...

You apparently don't know what heels look like, so here's an image for you showing the heels she's being forced into. Try walking in that.

Xulsigae1 votes

Running on tip toe is normal, heels or not. Heels are not good warfare attire and never will be.

Life Of Nami1 votes

The point is, If you cut off the heels, she'd still stand like that. and seeing how one of my favorite girls in school complains that if you wear heels for a good hour then switch to boots or any flat-footed footwear, that you will be lost in balance for a while. not to mention, I feel that heels on championship Shyvana are quite necessary, as it also explains why and how she can stand on her tip-toes all the damn time

What the f? Seriously what the hell

She doesnt stand on her toes all the time. her original skins and class are all flat footed boots. No they are completely out of place. Man there's no physical possibility that someone would have better balance in heels, it's completely out of mode of human physiology.

Running on tip toe is normal, heels or not. Heels are not good warfare attire and never will be.

Actually it's not normal at all to run on tip toes, it's extremely ineffecient and stressful. Normal human stride the heel of the foot contacts the ground first, then the rest of the foot follows down to the ball and then the toes planting onto the surface ground to grip. As the runner moves forward their Tendons are loaded with elastic energy and as the heel of the foot comes come up off the ground this energy is refunded into the runners stride and it forces the toes down into the ground where they grip and shove the runner forward. It's incredibly efficient and strong for long distance running.

High Heels break this pattern, a pattern that hominids have been running in for millions of years.

Xulsigae1 votes

Well I believe we run on tip toe when sprinting, could be wrong. That's what I was told to do by my track coach.

Life Of Nami1 votes

Well I believe we run on tip toe when sprinting, could be wrong. That's what I was told to do by my track coach.

We most definitely do not. If you run on your tip toes you will completely lose all the traction and mechanical advantage that you gain from your tendons.

Xulsigae1 votes

Some do actually. There are types of running where front of the foot is better, like short distant sprinting and such. Some people also just prefer it.

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