A Jax main's thoughts on Jax's background

Skippèr·Jan 15, 2019·8 votes·9,750 views

Hey guys, my id is Skippèr and I have over 500k mastery points on . I always read about the big guy's lore and now have couple questions. 1.What race is ? At first I thought that he was just a human that was corrupted by void. (Based on his skin color). In lore None Shall Pass Jax said that

His robes were heavy, but the sun’s warmth didn’t reach the mottled and oddly hued skin beneath. No part of his flesh was visible, which was probably just as well. He wasn’t even sure what his skin looked like anymore.

I always thought this was a hint to that he has been corrupted by void and decided to cover it for good, but riot did confirmed that's not true. Here's the thread

And then there's been theory saying that is a sand troll, being almost the same species with , I can see the reasons why, for that they both have 3 fingers and they both have a purple-ish color of skin. Jax have purple but that could just be that he lives in a different place. 's real name, Saijax Cail-Rynx Kohari Icath’un gives us 2 more clue. Sai-Jax basically means "Sand Jax" in shruima language. and Icath'un was given to those warriors who was not born in Icathia but joined up later, which Icath'or being those who was born there. So we know that Jax's real name contains "sand" and he was not born in Icathia. Everything seems to match!

However, in-game model shows that is smaller than .. Jax is always described as a giant in his lores, but his size in game is identical to , a human. On 's mighty jax skin, you can see the size of his armor is size XXXXXL. also has 3 toes, comparing to having only 2. People claimed to see 's face in his God Staff model and looks like a troll with 2 huge teeth, but God Staff and God Fist is resembling Buddhism culture, which Jax is wearing the mask of a demon-god in Buddhism.

But, here's where all hell breaks lose.

's Jaximus skin, different to all his other skins, have his left arm exposed without any kind of cloth. And it's a human skin color. Not purple, but a little bit tan, typical of those who lived in the desert. Jax also have skin which contains heavy middle-east elements... But he still only have 3 fingers and 2 toes.

I am calling Riot for help. Please explain :(

2.My opinion on vs Fiora is described as a duel specialist with no losses. Which is pretty damn scary if you think about it. Jax, on the otherhand is a ex-elite mage warrior who survived countless battle against shurima-god warriors, and lived since then. Based on the lore, that's centuries ago... And Jax has also a record of not losing any duel if he uses a real weapon. So Jax was able to 1v10 with a real weapon on battle field, while Fiora being specialized in a 1v1 fight. In melee duels, the one with longer reach weapon will have an advantage. Before Jax starts to use his not-so-trustworthy lamppost, his weapon was described as

He shifted the long, axe-headed polearm slung at his shoulder. The weapon was immense, its ebony haft carved with the names of his forebears, and the blade a slab of razor-edged bronze. Few of our group could even lift it, let along swing it, but Saijax was a master of weapons.

And he chopped a god-warrior's head off with it. Just like and . So I would say that if Jax was allowed a real weapon, Jax would win in this fight. (In cinematic A New Dawn, you can see , who was known for his excellent combat skills on warfield, struggling to take down Jax, until 's lamppost broke and was hit by .

3. & ? Jax's current goal is to find someone who's worthy enough to stand beside him and fight void-creatures. When Kai'Sa was released I was so excited because I thought the big guy is about to find that worthy friend. Which Kai'Sa actually have a interaction with Jax!!!!

"A lamp's not gonna do it, Jax"

OMG! IS KAI'SA WHO JAX been looking for? (I do believe that Jax will use a real weapon against void creatures though.)

Calling Rioters! We need some explain

36 Comments

Tesla EffectJan 15, 20193 votes

Maybe its an adaptation thing. Ice trolls are larger than Sand Trolls and have not lost one of their toes during development (probably due to keeping up right easier with how large they are). Jax being a Sand Troll would explain his strength, and possibly even his age.

GhaelWindsJan 15, 20191 votes

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Maybe its an adaptation thing. Ice trolls are larger than Sand Trolls and have not lost one of their toes during development (probably due to keeping up right easier with how large they are). Jax being a Sand Troll would explain his strength, and possibly even his age.

This is even a thing with dragons in mythology. Western dragons have more toes than eastern dragons.

The IcebornJan 15, 20193 votes

I mean sand trolls are probably just smaller than ice trolls.. I mean not every troll is the same size, just like the species of cats arent the same size(cat-lion)

Warlord RhinarkJan 15, 20192 votes

In-game model sizes are irrelevant. Malphite is supposed to be the size of a mountain but he's not even bigger than Tahm Kench.
Skins are non-canon.

For now, Sand Troll definitely seems, from my perspective, to be the most likely.

WoΘxerJan 15, 20191 votes

Well Aurelion Sol's Leg should be an entire size of Summoners Rift. [poppy-wink]

Tesla EffectJan 15, 20191 votes

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Well Aurelion Sol's Leg should be an entire size of Summoners Rift. [poppy-wink]

Or so we think (with the splash art), for all we know he can literally place a real life star in the palm of his hands.

Ebonmaw DragonJan 15, 20191 votes

Well, in game sizes are not really important as far as i know. Yordles look like giants in comparison with Kayle for example.

And dont take skins as canon for the main lore, Sion is not a robot even is he has 2 robotic skins, there are tons of skins for Shyvana that change the color of her skin, etc.

Also, you have to consider that Jax needed help to cut the head of that Ascended.

woodvsmurphJan 15, 20191 votes

You mean veigar doesn't pretend to be evil to disguise that he is actually Santa Clause and come down my chimney to give me presents each winter? My whole childhood is ruined. [sg-janna]

Ebonmaw DragonJan 16, 20192 votes

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You mean veigar doesn't pretend to be evil to disguise that he is actually Santa Clause and come down my chimney to give me presents each winter? My whole childhood is ruined. [sg-janna]

Sorry to ruin your childhood, but no, actually Santa Clause pretends to be good to disguise that he is actually Veigar and come down your cimmey to steal your cookies each winter.

woodvsmurphJan 17, 20191 votes

Ahaha I don't know though. I think there's something creepier about Santa Braum. He just has a creeper look about him I can't totally explain. At least with veigar you know what you're getting.[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

SkippèrJan 15, 20191 votes

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Well, in game sizes are not really important as far as i know. Yordles look like giants in comparison with Kayle for example.

And dont take skins as canon for the main lore, Sion is not a robot even is he has 2 robotic skins, there are tons of skins for Shyvana that change the color of her skin, etc.

Also, you have to consider that Jax needed help to cut the head of that Ascended.

I do know that! But even with the help that his elite squad gave him, it is still magnificent for him to just cut a god-warrior's head off. Jax's combat skill is undoubtedly the best in league (Referring to A New Dawn again, A war-worn general like Darius is struggling on battling with Jax even though he only had a lamp.). and just along with the physical strength he has, a duel with Fiora is almost unfair.

Weiner the PoohJan 15, 20191 votes

I believe one of the warriors Jax is looking for is Fiora. If you break down the story "None Shall Pass" its pretty obvious. The word "worthy" is mentioned several times throughout his story. Who's select quote also involves that word? Fiora's.

And Fiora is no ordinary fighter. shes prodigal. While she was still a teen she beat her father who was described "as a fine swordsman" but his young daughter was already better than him, better than the head of a noble house who would likely be a better fighter than a common soldier. And that was years before they meet. Enough time for her to become the most feared duelist in an entire continent. Shes lost track of the people shes killed there's no many, and if her story duel speaks anything to how her fights normally go, she wins within a matter of seconds, showing how skilled she is. Fiora is also extremely intelligent, she wouldn't just charge in like the other Demacians in the story.

They wouldn't have two characters who are "legends" meet for no reason. Jax meets Fiora on the bridge because this is where there stories tie together, shes (at least one of) the warrior hes looking for. Riots not gonna have them meet just for Jax to kick her ass and then leave disappointed, that wouldn't make any sense.

Why would they mention in a story "a warrior worthy of fighting at his side in the battles against the monsters from beyond would need to be adaptable" and then bring in another champion, just for the other champ to not be the one hes looking for. Especially a champ who has over come every obstacle put in their path before? Just because Fiora isn't a part of some military doesn't mean she wouldn't know how to fight outside of a duel. If its believed that the monsters from beyond are the void, then they'd likely attack like they do in the freljord story where the three ice born descend into below the howling abyss. Where its deadly creatures attacking in small packs or alone, Fiora wouldn't be worth her salt as a fighter if she could literally only one v one, and I highly doubt thats the case.

I don't think one is better than the other or would defeat the other, it's likely that these two, like how Olaf and Sejuani fought to a stand still, would also find equals in each other. Champions dont meet in lore just for it to be insignificant. Just like Nasus and Renekton meeting Xerath was nearly catastrophic, and Thresh and Lucian meeting, Or Illaoi with Miss Fortune, all of it was significant, and it was more than just two champs meet, one beats the shit out of the other and leaves.

Also, its important to not that Jax did not kill the god warrior on his own, his entire unit was there, yes he struck the killing blow, but he didn't do it on his own. As well as in the fight between Jax and Darius, it doesn't have enough time to show them really fight, they push against each other a bit, and thats it. Its cut too short to really get anything.

SkippèrJan 15, 20191 votes

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I believe one of the warriors Jax is looking for is Fiora. If you break down the story "None Shall Pass" its pretty obvious. The word "worthy" is mentioned several times throughout his story. Who's select quote also involves that word? Fiora's.

And Fiora is no ordinary fighter. shes prodigal. While she was still a teen she beat her father who was described "as a fine swordsman" but his young daughter was already better than him, better than the head of a noble house who would likely be a better fighter than a common soldier. And that was years before they meet. Enough time for her to become the most feared duelist in an entire continent. Shes lost track of the people shes killed there's no many, and if her story duel speaks anything to how her fights normally go, she wins within a matter of seconds, showing how skilled she is. Fiora is also extremely intelligent, she wouldn't just charge in like the other Demacians in the story.

They wouldn't have two characters who are "legends" meet for no reason. Jax meets Fiora on the bridge because this is where there stories tie together, shes (at least one of) the warrior hes looking for. Riots not gonna have them meet just for Jax to kick her ass and then leave disappointed, that wouldn't make any sense.

Why would they mention in a story "a warrior worthy of fighting at his side in the battles against the monsters from beyond would need to be adaptable" and then bring in another champion, just for the other champ to not be the one hes looking for. Especially a champ who has over come every obstacle put in their path before? Just because Fiora isn't a part of some military doesn't mean she wouldn't know how to fight outside of a duel. If its believed that the monsters from beyond are the void, then they'd likely attack like they do in the freljord story where the three ice born descend into below the howling abyss. Where its deadly creatures attacking in small packs or alone, Fiora wouldn't be worth her salt as a fighter if she could literally only one v one, and I highly doubt thats the case.

I don't think one is better than the other or would defeat the other, it's likely that these two, like how Olaf and Sejuani fought to a stand still, would also find equals in each other. Champions dont meet in lore just for it to be insignificant. Just like Nasus and Renekton meeting Xerath was nearly catastrophic, and Thresh and Lucian meeting, Or Illaoi with Miss Fortune, all of it was significant, and it was more than just two champs meet, one beats the shit out of the other and leaves.

Also, its important to not that Jax did not kill the god warrior on his own, his entire unit was there, yes he struck the killing blow, but he didn't do it on his own. As well as in the fight between Jax and Darius, it doesn't have enough time to show them really fight, they push against each other a bit, and thats it. Its cut too short to really get anything.

I did know Jax did not kill the god warrior on his own (and i know people will use the fact that i didn't say anything about this against my post), however just to chop that big of a thing's head off requires massive brutal strength along.

Now onto Darius vs Jax . From a degree of a martial art praticitioner, the whole fight was just Jax showing off his skill. Jax swapped multiple bo-staff stance against darius when Darius changed his pattern each time. If you actually wield a bo-staff (very similar to a wooden lamppost which Jax used in video), you will find it that it breaks easily when used against a metal weapon like darius' axe. However, Jax parried all darius' attack without breaking the lamppost itself was a pure show-off in his ability to control his strength, which in better words, showing off his "Grandmaster's might". And just with the description of Jax being a giant, the fact that he used one of his famous moves "leap strike" was pretty awesome as well.

woodvsmurphJan 15, 20191 votes

Nasus Renekton : doesn't matter, we both kill you

Jokes aside... longer range with weapon doesn't mean you auto-win a duel. There's a reason for so many variations of swords and short weapons. If fiora were to get inside jax's blade reach (using his pike/halberd/poleaxe) she can shred him faster than he can defend himself. But to get inside means one amazing parry/deflection or dodge against a much heavier weapon wielded with power and strong momentum. Thus likely a deflection by fiora to throw the blade off course to pass harmlessly through the air followed by some kind of lunging maneuver to force him to step backwards rather than immediately launch a strike at here. This then gives fiora the time to launch a more precise strike that gets through jax's defenses and score a meaningful hit. One might not be enough, but it's a test of skill to see if she can land enough and avoid jax's thrusts and swiping blows. Honestly probably like the opening battle for Achilles with Brad Pitt playing him in the movie Troy except more protracted. Fiora reprises the role of Achilles - being the more agile one but with less brute strength.

SkippèrJan 15, 20191 votes

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: doesn't matter, we both kill you

Jokes aside... longer range with weapon doesn't mean you auto-win a duel. There's a reason for so many variations of swords and short weapons. If fiora were to get inside jax's blade reach (using his pike/halberd/poleaxe) she can shred him faster than he can defend himself. But to get inside means one amazing parry/deflection or dodge against a much heavier weapon wielded with power and strong momentum. Thus likely a deflection by fiora to throw the blade off course to pass harmlessly through the air followed by some kind of lunging maneuver to force him to step backwards rather than immediately launch a strike at here. This then gives fiora the time to launch a more precise strike that gets through jax's defenses and score a meaningful hit. One might not be enough, but it's a test of skill to see if she can land enough and avoid jax's thrusts and swiping blows. Honestly probably like the opening battle for Achilles with Brad Pitt playing him in the movie Troy except more protracted. Fiora reprises the role of Achilles - being the more agile one but with less brute strength.

I did not say having longer range weapon means u auto-win the duel! I said u will have advantage if u have a longer weapon. I practice Iaido and have a standard length katana, which I find very hard to deal with when I go into combat with my friend who is using a western spear. If u ask anyone who do combat martial arts, they will also tell u that longer weapons gives you big advantages.

2.Duel doesn't mean that Jax has to use a blade as well. Jax decided to use a lamppost so he doesn't have to accidentally kill his opponent and also to give his opponent a sporting chance. Comparing to Fiora's goal is always death, Jax doesn't really care that much. Jax's favorite weapon was his old post-axe, which has an incredible reach and damage if he used full strength. Fiora has the advantages on speed, there's no doubt. However, Jax lived for centuries while looking for a worth fighter, it is reasonable to say that Jax could easily analyze Fiora's fight pattern and predict her move and move on to parry it. There's a fan animation on YouTube of Jax vs Fiora, which I think is pretty impressive and accuract, here's the link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMcuT-xwTxg&t=146s

Weiner the PoohJan 16, 20191 votes

If Jax can analyze Fiora's fight pattern its fair to assume she can figure him out as well. She's no ordinary fighter, and shes not only skilled but extremely smart. Her passive is all about finding the weaknesses in her opponents defense.

Whenever this discussion comes up Jax fan boys always assume he far out classes her, like its not even a competition.

And im not sure how you can say that fan video is accurate, not only does he get stabbed like its nothing but the TF card thing is so dumb and gimmicky. It was literally made to pander to Jax fan boys. She can get hit and knocked around like its nothing, but he gets stabbed and its fine? Yeah thats a bias video if ive ever seen one.

SkippèrJan 16, 20191 votes

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If Jax can analyze Fiora's fight pattern its fair to assume she can figure him out as well. She's no ordinary fighter, and shes not only skilled but extremely smart. Her passive is all about finding the weaknesses in her opponents defense.

Whenever this discussion comes up Jax fan boys always assume he far out classes her, like its not even a competition.

And im not sure how you can say that fan video is accurate, not only does he get stabbed like its nothing but the TF card thing is so dumb and gimmicky. It was literally made to pander to Jax fan boys. She can get hit and knocked around like its nothing, but he gets stabbed and its fine? Yeah thats a bias video if ive ever seen one.

If Fiora's passive makes her able to find weaknesses, then Jax's E means that he can literally dodge all attacks since in-game he can dodge all basic attacks. Fiora's sword maybe lethal to ordinary humans, but Jax is a battle-worn warrior who survived attacks from god warriors and void creatures. Also what jax did to tf's card was also accurate since jax can actually dodge that with his E in game.

You totally sounded like a Fiora fanboy as well, just by the way.

Weiner the PoohJan 16, 20191 votes

Even if Jax can dodge a few it can work on everything, and that's where her W comes into play.

Also Fiora's sword, if lore is followed isn't lethal to just humans. Its demacian steel, meaning its effective vs undead and presumably void as well. Also it doesn't matter if Jax is battle hardened, getting stabbed through the middle of your back if effective vs anything.

And when I mention the TF card its because it has no place in that fight, its third party, its literally put in there to ensure he wins for whatever reason. It was out of place.

Its all from a fan made video, none of it holds any merit, its not about how skilled those champs are, its about how that animator wanted it to end, thats it.

SkippèrJan 17, 20191 votes

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Even if Jax can dodge a few it can work on everything, and that's where her W comes into play.

Also Fiora's sword, if lore is followed isn't lethal to just humans. Its demacian steel, meaning its effective vs undead and presumably void as well. Also it doesn't matter if Jax is battle hardened, getting stabbed through the middle of your back if effective vs anything.

And when I mention the TF card its because it has no place in that fight, its third party, its literally put in there to ensure he wins for whatever reason. It was out of place.

Its all from a fan made video, none of it holds any merit, its not about how skilled those champs are, its about how that animator wanted it to end, thats it.

Great! Demacian steel! Effective vs undead and void! But jax is neither of that. TF was not in the fight. So the card shouldn't do anything anyways. The fight was between Jax and Fiora. Also that video was featured by league community account officially. So Fiora's light weighted duel blade wouldn't be lethal to big guy jax who is just a big guy who is just a giant with brutal strength and mastered weapon skill.

Weiner the PoohJan 17, 20191 votes

It was featured by not made by riot and it’s because they showed all of that guys work. Can’t be considered any more accurate than fan fiction.

Also rapiers are not light weight, they’re just as heavy, if not heavier than a longsword. Pretty sure a 3.5 foot piece of steel going all the way through someone’s mid section is going to be lethal. Doesn’t really matter how tough they are.

And the bit about demacian steel was how it’s not just lethal to humans. And the TF card did do something, obviously, it was used as a gimmick in the end, how is that nothing.

The whole video is made entirely for Jax fans. Every year, probably 5 times a year there’s a Jax fanboy, either on Reddit or the boards who starts crying saying it makes no sense how Fiora is a challenge for him. Every year.

And as Jax is more popular it’s no surprise that someone that makes league videos would make him win. But it’s not accurate, it’s not anything. It’s fan made, that’s it.

FalreinJan 15, 20191 votes

Worthy warriors... Kassadin and Kai'sa are likely yeah. I'm hesitant to say Fiora would join him as she still has unfinished business in Demacia...

unpopular opinion: Out of all of League's roster, one of the champions I could picture fighting alongside Jax is Syndra. That's definitely not gonna happen, but she has nothing really keeping her in Ionia, and the anti-Void crusade is one of the few challenging things for her and her immense powers.

Warlord RhinarkJan 15, 20191 votes

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Worthy warriors... Kassadin and Kai'sa are likely yeah. I'm hesitant to say Fiora would join him as she still has unfinished business in Demacia...

unpopular opinion: Out of all of League's roster, one of the champions I could picture fighting alongside Jax is Syndra. That's definitely not gonna happen, but she has nothing really keeping her in Ionia, and the anti-Void crusade is one of the few challenging things for her and her immense powers.

Sorry for asking, but what connection does Syndra have to the Void again?

FalreinJan 15, 20191 votes

None? But why does it matter?

Jax is looking for people that could help him in his crusade (call that whatever you want, I'll call it that way for clarity's sake). He's not looking for people having a connection to the Void? .-. I'm pretty sure Fiora has no connection to the Void, and yet he still tested her (or will test her, since we haven't seen their fight yet)?

Warlord RhinarkJan 15, 20191 votes

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None? But why does it matter?

Jax is looking for people that could help him in his crusade (call that whatever you want, I'll call it that way for clarity's sake). He's not looking for people having a connection to the Void? .-. I'm pretty sure Fiora has no connection to the Void, and yet he still tested her (or will test her, since we haven't seen their fight yet)?

No, I mean.

What motivation does Syndra have for fighting the Void?

Sure, Fiora doesn't necessarily have any hatred towards the Void, but she wants a worthy opponent in Jax and she might be bound by honor to help him or something if he beats her.

But Syndra? She just wants to explore her magical powers to the furthest and she doesn't like when people take control over her.

Weiner the PoohJan 15, 20191 votes

Fiora wants redemption, its the last line of her lore. What better way to find that then helping in averting the potential apocalypse.

FalreinJan 15, 20191 votes

And what's better to explore your magical potential than a real threat? She won't be able to develop her powers against weak threats. I know perfectly well that it's not gonna happen, but it's not unconceivable, given she has no strings attached to Ionia and could very well leave. My point isn't that it's gonna happen 100%, it is that it's a possibility. Think about it, she has this amazing potential, and Riot has to make a good use of it, one way or another (it would be a waste to give her one of the strongest innate powers and to not use it against matching threats). I'm not saying it'll be against the Void, but it's a possibility nonetheless.

Speak or DieJan 15, 20191 votes

As the self imposed Jax lore expert, these observations are spot on! I personally think Fiora and Jax lore relation feels underdeveloped and a bit awkward, as for Kai'Sa I think it really fits. This would also work with Kassadin.

Jax's race being revealed would be a really big reveal. Honestly, personally I hate the idea of him being a sand troll. I don't think Jax's race will be revealed anytime soon if not ever.

Weiner the PoohJan 15, 20191 votes

How does the Fiora interaction feel awkward. They’re two exceptionally skilled warriors, both seeking something. Jax a warrior to fight by him, Fiora redemption. What’s a better way of finding redemption than helping try to stop the apocalypse.

NeameanJan 15, 20191 votes

I think Rengar could be the worthy warrior jax is looking for.

SkippèrJan 15, 20191 votes

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I think could be the worthy warrior jax is looking for.

Could be! I never thought of it because there's no visible lore connection... Yet.

Weiner the PoohJan 16, 20191 votes

Help me understand as it confuses me, how can their be a story of Jax looking for a "worthy warrior" and hes testing people and in the end Fiora is introduced, another champion, and people can think its anyone but her. I don't understand. What do they think hes gonna kick her ass and leave? How does this go in everyone's heads, because it doesn't make any sense.

SkippèrJan 17, 20191 votes

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Help me understand as it confuses me, how can their be a story of Jax looking for a "worthy warrior" and hes testing people and in the end Fiora is introduced, another champion, and people can think its anyone but her. I don't understand. What do they think hes gonna kick her ass and leave? How does this go in everyone's heads, because it doesn't make any sense.

That's just a story between them. It's not where Jax's main lore is settled at. Check out "Where Icathia once stood"

Weiner the PoohJan 17, 20191 votes

Where Icathia once stood is thousands of years in the past. If that’s Jax’s main lore then he’s not going to get very much progression in his story.

It’s obviously the staging point for where his journey is taking him. And that journey is looking for warriors. In that same story it mentions what he’s looking for, what they’ll need to be and what not.

Now in that same story he meets another highly revered fighter, who obviously meets all of what he’s looking for. It’s illogical to think that they’re just gonna fight and leave. What is Jax gonna meet her, kick her ass, then leave disappointed, and then go find kassadin and kai sa?

SkippèrJan 17, 20191 votes

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Where Icathia once stood is thousands of years in the past. If that’s Jax’s main lore then he’s not going to get very much progression in his story.

It’s obviously the staging point for where his journey is taking him. And that journey is looking for warriors. In that same story it mentions what he’s looking for, what they’ll need to be and what not.

Now in that same story he meets another highly revered fighter, who obviously meets all of what he’s looking for. It’s illogical to think that they’re just gonna fight and leave. What is Jax gonna meet her, kick her ass, then leave disappointed, and then go find kassadin and kai sa?

how does when a story took place can affect a character's progression in the future?? And yes. A duelist or couple fighters who were empowered by void and have experience going against to void, who would jax pick??? A worthy opponent doesn't necessarily mean that she is a good pick for fighting void creatures. And no. A rapier is called a rapier because it features fast and swift attacks due to its light and thin design. you would notice the difference between it and long sword if u actually wielded one in your hand. (hint: I did.) Also, a stab in a midsection is not necessarily lethal. (unless we are talking about typical long sword or katanas here). The only way for rapier to be lethal is a precise strike to heart, which is pretty easy with Fiora's skill. But again, Jax is a master of weapons, and parring a rapier with a staff or axehead is very easy.

Weiner the PoohJan 18, 20191 votes

It affects the story because its just background for the character. There is no way to continue a story in the lore with other characters when that lore is centuries before any of the other characters are born. I'm not saying it doesn't give you a basis for the character, or doesn't matter. What im saying is that what happened in that story, will not affect the future events of the story. Its all done, it can't add more to a developing story, its history.

Yeah so a story all about Jax looking for a worthy fighter, where Fiora in introduced in the end, shes totally not the worthy fighter. Not to mention the story ends with "Finally, an opponent worth fighting!". Yup, its totally not her. Just because shes a duelist doesn't mean she can't fight anything else. That's just where she developed her skills. You have to not want it not to be her to think shes not the warrior to fight the void with him. At that point in lore, there is no way Jax knows about Kai'sa and Kassadin. If he was looking specifically for void enhanced fighters, he wouldn't have tested all the other Demacian soldiers. Its because hes not looking for void enhanced fighters, hes just looking for those that have the skills required.

And my bad i said longsword when i meant arming sword. Those weigh the same, while both being one handed. And in the midsection there are other lethal spots besides the heart. There's the lungs and ofc if you stab through the spine well thats over right there, they're just paralyzed. Just because its not as wide as a longsword doesn't mean a chest level stab from a rapier wouldn't be lethal. First off, they're specialized for stabbing, second off they are on average an inch wide and 41 inches long, all of that steel going through someone would kill, especially the top of the chest where there is so many vital targets.

But again,everything in that video is just fan made, it holds zero weight.

toerlyApr 10, 20191 votes

you say trundle is big? trundle is the fucking king, i think he is way bigger than normal trolls, like garen is a huge human. look at trundles original model, before rework btw. there are smaller trolls 100% https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Trundle/History?file=Trundle_TraditionalSkin_old.jpg

Guys i love the idea of jax beeing a troll, why not. give him a rework and make him cool pls. im a j ax main since s3