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League of Romances: "Facts, Myths and Theories"

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Welcome summoners, to yet another entry in the "Facts, Myths and Theories" franchise, that will hopefully never go all Jar Jar Binks on itself! This week, we have a pretty cool topic to talk about, which is very different than usual, so... get excited! Before we get started though, I'd just like to announce that I have now posted every previous discussion of the series on reddit, and will continue to do so with new discussions going forward. If you'd like to show your support for the series, please check "Facts, Myths and Theories" out over on reddit. Any support, feedback or advice you can give me regarding the future of the series would be awesome, since I do this series all by my lonesome. Really! All the help I can get is very much appreciated. Thank you for all your awesome support so far, because it has now been a month since the very first discussion. Last week was awesome, where I even got a reply from gypsylord on the thread. I hope we can continue to discuss lore together, until... who knows when! You guys are awesome!

Ok! Now that all the heartfelt statements are done with, let's get going with this discussion. First, let's just explain what "Facts, Myths and Theories" is to any fresh faces around here. This is a series where I talk about a Lore-related topic every week. I grab what we know, what we don't know and mesh these together to form - you guessed it - theories, to try and crack the lore wide open. Now, what are we waiting for?! Let's talk some lore.

This Week's Topic: League of Romances

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Aaaah... Love... Whether you're a boy, a girl or a dog, you know this feeling. You hate it. You love it. You want it. And you loathe it. But, when it comes to love, we can always be sure of one thing... If it comes to someone else's love life... you want to know EVERYTHING! (Don't worry, it's human nature) Especially, when it comes to celebrities or fictional characters. And boy... does League deliver! We have confirmed relationships, hinted relationships, one-sided relationships, love triangles... When it comes to a pool of 120+ characters, some fan made art or fiction is just bound to happen. And we all know that, although most of us League players aren't girls (which doesn't really matter if you're a boy or girl, btw), we have emotional investment in these characters. And, like we would with any friend in real life, we would want to see them happy, together with someone that they love and that also loves them back.

So, this week in "Facts, Myths and Theories", we are going to talk about SOME of these romances. And I cannot stress enough that, unfortunately, I cannot talk about every single possible romance in League of Legends, in one discussion! I promise you though, that in due time, I will add this topic to the poll again and, if you so desire, make more of these. Anyway, since this topic is pretty different from the usual stuff, we're going to do things a little bit differently this time around. So, on today's discussion, instead of having 'the Facts', 'the Myths' and 'the Theories' sections, we'll have a section for each of the romances that we're going to discuss and go over the Facts, the Myths and the Theories for EACH relationship. You'll see what I mean in a sec.

Also, let's play a little game... For every relationship I mention, please post a comment of what you think their combined names should be (e.g. "Katagaren"). Sounds like fun right? :D

Now then, everyone understands the rules? You do? Good. Let's get started!

Garen X Kata

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The romance between the Might of Demacia and the Sinister Blade is a very popular one! It's a very hinted relationship and is generally shipped by the community as a whole, so I thought these two lovebirds would be a great start!

The Facts

Well, it's no secret that both Garen and Katarina tend to spin2win. But, what is the connection between these two? Well, we know for a fact that they are somewhat of archrivals. It is mentioned in Garen's lore that when he first encountered the Sinister Blade on the battlefield that the soldiers who beheld this event commented the following:

"It seemed as though the two were locked in a mortal waltz set against a symphony of clashing blades."

Aaah, the waltz... one of the most romantic dances of all. When Garen returned from the battle, he was breathless... a first for the fearless leader of the Dauntless Vanguard! The soldiers from Demacia commented that his exhaustion wasn't just due to the combat... But, Garen knew they couldn't understand the feeling of finally finding a worthy opponent on the battlefield. After that battle, Garen always looked for Katarina on the battlefield... looking for just one more spar with the Noxian assassin, the reason for him to rise and fight each morning...

The Myths

Now, Katarina's lore doesn't mention Garen at all, but the evidence doesn't stop there. As of Garen's visual update, in 2013, Garen has a couple of jokes directed toward the crimson-haired Noxian. One of which has him pretend that he's been doing some thousand one-handed stand pushups, mentioning how he 'didn't see her there.' This joke is obvious for anyone who watched cartoons in their youth. The other, more simplistic one has Garen say 'Demacia', albeit not in his usual patriotic tone, more like in a flirty tone. Another thing is a comment by a Rioter made during a Katarina AMA:

"Garen is a military leader and soldier and Katarina is an assassin. They aren't really rivals, as their roles are different. However, there is a romantic connection between the two, from times gone by. We are committed to preserving that."

So, the myths are actually facts in this case... Katarina and Garen have or had some sort of romantic relationship. Obviously, Garen still has some sort of feelings towards Katarina (Demaciaaa....). However, Katarina's side of things is yet to be explored.

Another thing to mention is that Blitcrank's "Fleshling Compatibily Service", from the good ol' Journal of Justice days, matched Katarina and Garen as a perfect pair. ^^

The Theories

Well, the theories are quite simple for Garen and Katarina's case. They both seem to be attracted to each other, especially because how both of them are dedicated to their city-states and to fight for them, and for finding a worthy opponent in each other. You may think this is an unhealthy start for a relationship. While probably right, you aren't taking to account how the opposites attract, which is proven for a fact. When you find your meaningful other, you tend to look to someone who compliments you, who completes you. I think this is the case for Garen and Katarina.

But, as we just read, it's also possible they had a relationship in the past... while we don't know the full details, it's possible that before they joined their countries' respective armies, they had met in a younger age and felt attracted to each other immediately, in a sort of Romeo and Juliet relationship. They got separated after they dedicated themselves to their armies but are able to be with each other again, in combat.

Honestly, I love how Garen and Kata complement each other in almost every way, so I here decree Garen X Kata:

SHIPPED

Zed X Syndra

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Zed and Syndra look like a couple of loners at first glance, but... they have a very big "shipped" rate. Why is that? Let's find out! By the way, if you haven't read the Zed X Syndra comic, I highly suggest you do. It's not very faithful to the source material, but it's a very cool spin on League's lore, so make sure to check it out!

The Facts

Now, here comes one of the shortest Facts section... EVER!!! So, if you visit Zed and Syndra's champion profile pages, they are listed as friends. That's it! There's no other official statement regarding these two's relationship. Just to show you how creative the League of Legends community can get with just a itsy bit of information.

The Myths

One thing about both Zed and Syndra is how much their stories are connected. Well, they are totally separate from each other, but if you read both Zed and Syndra's lore entries, you'll quickly discover that their stories are absolute parallels. Both of them are orphans. Both of them were trained to use ancient special techniques. Both seek out to gain their powers' full potential. Both killed their master. And both use some kind of ancient forbidden way. Their story is pretty much identical.

They are also just two of three evil Ionian champions, as of now, Varus being the third. Varus' mission though, is more of a personal and individual one. While Varus seeks revenge, both Zed and Syndra seek to unlock their full potential and to change Ionia in some way or another. Of course, being two majorly sought out Ionian public enemies, they'd probably cross paths together. But, is their some sort of romantic tension to be found here?

The Theories

Well, as we have mentioned Zed and Syndra have pretty similar stories and due to their standings in the public's eyes, they'd probably cross paths. It's highly possible that they would form some sort of alliance to achieve their respective goals more easily, helping each other to unlock their full potential. But, Zed and Syndra would also finally find someone who truly understood them in each other.

I mean, Zed and Syndra had never met anyone that actually understood what they had to go through and what their objective in life was. Naturally, you tend to seek for someone that truly understands you and loves you for what you are in a meaningful other. Thusly, they'd most likely develop feelings for each other in due time.

I love Zed and Syndra's been carrying me ever since Bronze through ranked play. I think they make a perfect pair for the reasons I just stated above. Thusly, Zed X Syndra is:

SHIPPED

Ezreal X Lux

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Boy... Here comes one of the cutest... if not the cutest..... couples in League of Legends........... it breaks my heart 'cause I thought Lux was so cute and perfect and... anyway.

The Facts

This was one that started with that picture that was "leaked" in Aatrox's 'Ancient Mystery of Runeterra' teaser. It was a pretty cool event all-in-all, and it showed a picture of these two hanging out and blushing. Ezreal seemed pretty nervous when talking about this picture and he had it on his desk so... It's pretty easily deduced that something's fishy going on!

The Myths

Another thing, is that Ezreal and Lux are listed as friends in both their champion profile pages. Now, if you can't add 2 and 2 than tell me why you're even here. x) If a guy has a picture of him with a friend of his that happens to be a girl on his desk and is embarrassed when people see it then, it probably mean he has a crush for said girl. It's Guys 101, ladies!

The Theories

After all this considered, it seems pretty obvious that Ezreal and Lux are indeed in a relationship, but how did they meet? Well, Ezreal - being the blond Indiana Jones and all - travels all around Valoran, in search of artifacts and for his research. Maybe, during a travel to Demacia he met the lovely Luxxana Crownguard. I mean, who wouldn't want to ask her out?!

Anyway, Ezreal and Lux, being both young and blonde, would probably get along well. Lux is a nice girl. Ezreal is a nice guy. They're... perfect together. And believe me, it pains me to have to say this, so it's definitely true or I wouldn't say it.

I'd ship these guys, if Ezreal didn't totally ruin all my fantasies of Lux being real and being the perfect girlfriend, so... Ez X Lux is:

NOT SHIPPED

Veigar X Lulu

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So, here comes an interesting one. The two yordle outcasts? In love? Well, this was actually a suggestion by a summoner and after going through their lore entries I found some interesting stuff.

The Facts

So, what do we know about Lulu and Veigar's relationship? Well, not much. We know that they are both yordle outcasts. That is, they used to be citizens of Bandle City, but left for different reasons and then, wouldn't be able to return, due to whatever happened during their isolation. Because, remember:

"Isolation is very dangerous for yordles"

Taken from Veigar's lore entry. Thusly, Veigar and Lulu kind of share a similar fate. Having been isolated for quite a long while from Bandle City, they decided or weren't able to return, at least not with the city having open arms.

The Myths

So, in a similar fashion to most of the other couples mentioned, Lulu and Veigar are listed as friends in the LoL website. This makes sense, them being bot yordle outcasts and all. Veigar was imprisoned in Noxus and became twisted by the time he came out. While, Lulu is kind of crazy and spent a couple of centuries with her friend Pix. Now, both of them being magicians is also a point towards their friendship and it making sense.

The Theories

Well, the theory is that, although they are a pretty popular couple, I don't think either of them have a romantic interest in each other. I mean, sure Lulu likes to play with others, but she's a crazy lady. Just look at her! She has crazy eyes... Also, I don't believe that Lulu would even think about someone romantically, due to her largely jovial nature. She acts like a little girl.

Veigar on the other hand was isolated for years and became twisted. Maybe he'd feel attracted to someone who also went through what he went trough. But, in the end, Veigar is kind of super evil now. His mastery over dark sorcery is also incompatible with Lulu's whimsical magic.

Thusly, all things considered, Veigar and Lulu definitely need to find a girlfriend and a boyfriend, respectively! I just don't believe that they're each other's soulmate.

NOT SHIPPED

Teemo X Tristana X Rumble

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Oooooh! Our last romance for the day is a love triangle!! So, ultimately, this one's more about which one will Tristana pick. I'm a big Rumble fan and I'm looking forward to this one in particular. You should too, because the ammount of furry cuteness kawaii yordleness is great within this week's post!

The Facts

So, this one's really interesting. So, let's start with my single favorite lore trivia ever! Did you know that Rumble calls his mech "Tristy"? Yep! True story. You would've learned that from reading the Journal of Justice if you knew that already. Well, turns out that Rumble apparently has a HUGE crush on Tristana. If you have Super Galaxy Rumble (which I do) and you recall next to Tristana (which I have), you'd be aware of this by now, since he has special interactions with there like: "Let's make fireworks, baby!" or "How do you like me now, Tristana?". But, does Tristana feel the same towards Rumble, is the question of the day.

Well, reading through both Teemo's and Tristana's lore entries, you'll find a very similar last paragraph, where it mentions that both have developed a 'very close friendship' and that others have rumored they are having a romantic relationship, although these rumors are usually avoided by both Tristana and Teemo. Also, both lore entries end with a quote from the other, saying how much they enjoy being friends with one another. Both Teemo and Tristana are soldiers, while Rumble isn't. So, what can we take from all this?

The Myths

Well, before answering that question, there's some other things we need to go over. So, as I mentioned earlier, Super Galaxy Rumble has a special line for when Rumble recalls next to Tristana:

"How d'ya like me now, Tristana?"

So, this quote sort of implies that Tristana doesn't feel the same way about Rumble than he feels about her. Maybe, Tristana friend zoned him. After all, they are listed as friends in their champion profile pages.

Another interesting detail, is that Teemo and Rumble are listed as rivals in their champion profile pages, which is very interesting. This whole love triangle thing seems to make sense after all. It appears as though Teemo and Rumble both, have a thing for Tristana.

The Theories

Now, Tristana's lore entry does mention that Tristana avoids talking about any romantic relationship she may have with the Swift Scout. What can we learn from this? Well, maybe she doesn't feel anything for Teemo and avoids the question, because she thinks it's ridiculous. Or maybe, she does feel something about him and that is why she avoids talking about it.

Rumble and Teemo however, seem attracted to Tristana, in very obvious ways. Rumble is obviously attracted to Trist, while Teemo hides this, but probably bickers about it with Rumble in the sidelines. Tristana do have a 'close friendship', so maybe this is indication she'll go towards Teemo. However, Rumble's a pretty standup guy, so maybe she'll lean towards Rumble. Or maybe, she doesn't feel anything for neither! It's also very possible!

In the end, it all comes down to EVERYBODY HATES TEEMO, so Teemo X Tristana is:

NOT SHIPPED

While, Rumble is a pretty cool guy and honestly, when you give a robot a girl's name, you're in serious need of a girlfriend my friend! Thusly, Rumble X Tristana is:

SHIPPED

But who knows? Girls do like them bad boys...

It's all just a theory though... Thanks for reading!


Boy was that a different discussion to write! I hope you all enjoyed this very different entry to the "Facts, Myths and Theories" series!! If you didn't like it or want to suggest a change, please do! Your opinions are welcome! Please tell me if you ship/unship some of these relationships and any other relationships I may have missed. I really hope to do one of these again. It was pretty fun but didn't include some of the best romances (Orianna X Viktor ^^). But, we can't have everything on one discussion! As always make sure to upvote this discussion if you enjoyed it and want others to see it, share your thoughts in the comments down below and, as always, vote in the poll for next week's topic! Also, feel free to check any other comments by others over on the reddit post and show your support there by upvoting. Have a good one. ;)

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225 Comments

Samflash329 votes

What about Ashe and Tryndamere?

Or Annie x Amumu?

Or Draven X Draven?

dialMARK4acti0n15 votes

Well, those are a discussion for another day. I couldn't talk about EVERYTHING!

That being said, Draven X Draven needs its own post!

TheRealAustin5 votes

Another thing you should have added was that if you play howling abyss, I'm pretty sure that the shopkeeper makes some reference to Ezreal liking Lux.

Jakethenight1 votes

Can you link a Draven x Draven comic. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

Ebonmaw Dragon10 votes

What about Ashe and Tryndamere?

Or Annie x Amumu?

Or Draven X Draven?

Well, Ashe and Tryndamere ARE married, that is a Fact that no one can deny... but... I dont know if they love each other.

Annie and Amumu... are friends... and kids... and different species... and one of them is dead... so... i dont think that is possible....

Draven loves everyone and himself, and everyone loves Draven, that is a fact.

However back to the topic:

GarenXKat: Random Fact: You can see Gnar playing with 2 toys of them on his dino skin. Kat seems to be running towards Garen.

SyndraXZed: Just fanfiction, we dont know many thing about them, some people says that Akali was lover of Zed... but everything about them is just fan canon.

EzXLux: Random Fact: Ezreal, Lux and Taric appear on the splash art of Pool Party Leona. In the picture, we can see that Taric and Lux are playing together, while Ezreal look at them.... jealous. So: Here comes a new challenger: Taric

LuluXVeigar: Like Zed and Syndra, there are not many things about them... Maybe Lulu has a crush on Veigar, but i cant imagine the master of evil in love.

RumbleXTristanaXTeemo: I guess that Tristana frienzoned both of them or she cant decide who is better... or... maybe...who knows... Teemo is gay and loves Rumble(okay, no)

Orbv1 votes

There was a Lulu and veigar thread in the old General Discussion. It was AMAZING.

As for Taric and Lux, it makes sense. They like lights and beautiful displays of light. Ezreal just has a close that does all the cool things for him. (No talent) #Taric+Lux (I'd actually prefer a Taric/Braum cannon, but that's hopeful)

Hrud5 votes

There was a Lulu and veigar thread in the old General Discussion. It was AMAZING.

As for Taric and Lux, it makes sense. They like lights and beautiful displays of light. Ezreal just has a close that does all the cool things for him. (No talent) #Taric+Lux (I'd actually prefer a Taric/Braum cannon, but that's hopeful)

Come on. Taric with a SINGLE girl? We all know Taric is the league's ladie's man.

Other dudes just can't compete with the Gem Man.

Count Dante3 votes

Personally I'm for Taric x Graves. In S2 love was op.

Destínum11 votes

How could you not ship Lulu x Veigar!? Cutest couple ever. :/

dialMARK4acti0n2 votes

Ooooh They are cute but... dammit! WHY DOES YORDLE LOVE HAVE TO BE SO DAMN CUTE?!?

Brenticus1211 votes

Riven is quite obviously the one who killed the elder, I don't see why people think it might be Ao Shin or Janna (Though that might just be a joke). Yasuo even has special quotes for Riven and we know she was part of the Ionian invasion. Edit: And I totally ship Yasuo x Riven lol. Just something about two wayward souls meeting and finding themselves in each other that excites me.

Keilp1 votes

I can dig that ship. Enemies falling in love, cliche buuuut...

Brenticus123 votes

It's cliche'd but oh so good c: If you're interested, you should definitely read this fan-fiction, if you're into that and have the time

https://m.fanfiction.net/s/9952668/1/Follow-the-Wind

ShadowNinetails3 votes

Riven x Zac. Google it if you dare.

Brenticus124 votes

And I honestly don't see the appeal of it outside of rule 34 art, haha I'm pretty sure it started from the Battle Bunny splash art with Zac being teased below her. It could work, I guess, I just can't see Zac being anything but another Alistar personality-wise (A gentle beast, but not someone you'd think who would become romantically involved) nor do I see how Riven would be attracted to him.

Sorry, but I prefer Yasuo x Riven lol

HD1080phreak8 votes

When you brought up Veigar and Lulu, I just couldn't help but think of "that tastes like purple"and Veigar is purple. Hmmmmmmm,interesting.

WestTiger7 votes

I'm surprised that you didn't put in Swain x LeBlanc in there. They are technically the 'couple' that has the most written about them collectively throughout LoL Lore, especially ever since LeBlanc's League Judgement and through the Journal of Justice. What's great about them is that it's really quite subtle and just hinted, especially on LeBlanc's side.

I admit that I'm a fangirl and it's my OTP, but even Riot seems to be pushing it more and more. The Reborn promo gives a little hint about LeBlanc's flirting with Swain, even though he seems colder towards her. And that Ravenborn LeBlanc skin. Pretty much making the 'subtext' into full-blown 'text' at this point.

Over on reddit, I frequently post all the canon moments in LoL that shows their involvement together, they both got the most actual character development from the JoJ back in the day, it's just a pity that because of that, the people who didn't read the JoJ never actually knew or caught on.

Or, and I suspect this is the main reason that the pairing such as it were never got recognized, people are a bit squicked out by the fact that the age difference between the two is quite big, at least visibly. While LeBlanc's the Ur-Example of the whole 'sexy female LoL champ', Swain's visibly the second oldest looking human champ in the roster (next to Zilean). Their backstories make their ages very speculative, but at least visually, Swain's at least 50 and LeBlanc's about 30. For many people, not exactly the mental image they like to have!

Anyway, I'll get my past reference links up on this post, just thought to bring it up. I always thought that someone in Riot obviously had this pet-project surrounding them, and even had the maturity to do an almost Game-of-Thronesque treatment of their 'relationship', never ever being overt about it, but always hinting 'something more'. It was probably someone in the JoJ lore team, who painstakingly made sure that the couple got the character development through the JoJ the most. Heck, the final issue of the JoJ ends on Swain being the Grand General of Noxus and in his new Tyrant skin.

When the JoJ was retired and the lore team reshuffled, I was pretty worried that Riot was just going to sweep all that development under the rug. But the Reborn promo and the Ravenborn LeBlanc skin shows that they are fully aware of the pairing. And also aware that all that work spent into the two was never obvious enough to a lot of people. Instead of just retconning or ignoring it, they decided to be more overt. I'm fine with this over being completely silent, plus it does make the fangirl in me squee.

Link to summary of their relationship I recently posted on reddit in response to the Ravenborn skin: Includes relevant links to canon sources

Still Eternity1 votes

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Personally, I think Swain and LeBlanc were an item in the past, but are no longer together. Their work is what keeps them in contact so often, with Swain as a General of varrying importance until his rise as the leader of Noxus, and LeBlanc as the Matron of the Black Rose.

Next, I think it's very possible LeBlanc's outward age isn't how old she really is; she's a master of deception after all. It strikes me as quite feasible that she could be using an illusion to mask how old she really is; on the flip side, Swain may have been in a number of accidents or simply aged more rapidly due to stress. Just look at before and after pictures of Presidents of the United States; they look so much older after their term(s) are done than they should.

Audiomancy2 votes

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Personally, I think Swain and LeBlanc were an item in the past, but are no longer together. Their work is what keeps them in contact so often, with Swain as a General of varrying importance until his rise as the leader of Noxus, and LeBlanc as the Matron of the Black Rose.

Next, I think it's very possible LeBlanc's outward age isn't how old she really is; she's a master of deception after all. It strikes me as quite feasible that she could be using an illusion to mask how old she really is; on the flip side, Swain may have been in a number of accidents or simply aged more rapidly due to stress. Just look at before and after pictures of Presidents of the United States; they look so much older after their term(s) are done than they should.

It's possible that Swain and 'Emilia LeBlanc' were romantically involved at some point, however, it may be that the LeBlanc he knew and the current LeBlanc are not the same person. Going by her judgement, the guise of Emilia LeBlanc is just an illusion created by the hairpin and staff passed down from one matron to another after she steps down from leadership over the Black Rose. The real name of the current Matron is Evaine. This would explain why in LB's judgement, Swain acts with a certain familiarity towards LeBlanc, while the Matron remains professional. Just a theory though, of course.

Also, I ship Veilu. As Braum says: "Sometimes, icy heart just needs warm smile." Or in Lulu's case, a terrifyingly creepy yet cute grin that says 'I'm going to turn you and your entire family into fuzzy squirrels and then shave your fur, make a giant hat out of it, give it to my faerie companion for a house and then polymorph you all into fruit'. Lulu

WestTiger1 votes

Evaine actually acted pretty warmly in her League Judgement. She made the move to hold his hand, and it's noted she looked particularly sad when mentioning how Swain sacrificed his identity to get his current position.

She actually tends to be...'grabby'. In the JoJ issue mentioning why Swain wasn't up for selection during the Ionia vs Noxus grudge match, LeBlanc was his date and "hanging on his arm" for the whole event in his honor.

Hrud4 votes

Evaine actually acted pretty warmly in her League Judgement. She made the move to hold his hand, and it's noted she looked particularly sad when mentioning how Swain sacrificed his identity to get his current position.

She actually tends to be...'grabby'. In the JoJ issue mentioning why Swain wasn't up for selection during the Ionia vs Noxus grudge match, LeBlanc was his date and "hanging on his arm" for the whole event in his honor.

Lying is like, 95% of what she does, though.

ModCaptainMårvelous5 votes

No Vi/Cait? Well well.

dialMARK4acti0n3 votes

I think Cait is married to work, so she doesn't really think about having a relationship.

Killer X 123 votes

That is why Vi works for her. Workaholics like Cait need one of those really out their personalities like Vi, though we don't always admit it. Vi, someone who'd beat the fuck outta someone who gave Cait trouble, but then go tease Cait herself. Its that reliability that you need, you know what you're getting.

Mecha MaIphite5 votes

Gragas xitem 2041

Bloberis4 votes

Whenever romance comes around again, you should put in an option dealing specifically with the possible homosexual relationships in League. It'd have to be tactfully done, but it's an interesting topic

dialMARK4acti0n5 votes

Honestly, there's a reason I shied away from those types of romances this time around. Honestly, I'm not ready to face controversy or have a heated discussion in the comment section about being gay or not and if that's ok. This series' about the lore and nothing else.

Thusly, I think it's better for both the discussion's and our sakes to keep it boy x girl.

EDIT: Besides, I have to keep in mind that although these are the NA boards, that other people from other cultures may visit and read. I wouldn't want to offend anyone or make them miss the point of the discussion by inserting relationships that in their culture may be seen as... not ok.

Life Of Nami7 votes

Thusly, I think it's better for both the discussion's and our sakes to keep it boy x girl.

EDIT: Besides, I have to keep in mind that although these are the NA boards, that other people from other cultures may visit and read. I wouldn't want to offend anyone or make them miss the point of the discussion by inserting relationships that in their culture may be seen as... not ok.

That's kinda shitty :/ Excluding Gay people is kinda fucked up dude.

At any rate, in the end, Lore denies Shyvana x Jarvan, but quinn's official AMA hints at canon love interest in Jarvan from Quinn.

edit: just lost all respect for you, that's fucked up dude. That's really disappointing that in 2014 the modern era, the age to strive for equality, and people still act like that. That's really disappointing. Really sad. Walks out

Diana x Me4 votes

Thusly, I think it's better for both the discussion's and our sakes to keep it boy x girl.

EDIT: Besides, I have to keep in mind that although these are the NA boards, that other people from other cultures may visit and read. I wouldn't want to offend anyone or make them miss the point of the discussion by inserting relationships that in their culture may be seen as... not ok.

That's kinda shitty :/ Excluding Gay people is kinda fucked up dude.

At any rate, in the end, Lore denies Shyvana x Jarvan, but quinn's official AMA hints at canon love interest in Jarvan from Quinn.

edit: just lost all respect for you, that's fucked up dude. That's really disappointing that in 2014 the modern era, the age to strive for equality, and people still act like that. That's really disappointing. Really sad. Walks out

You have to understand that some people just don't agree with that way of life. It's just how things are and will always remain. Everyone comes from a different place and are taught different things such as how to behave and what the family believes is proper. Many will not forgo or withdraw from their foundations.

I personally don't agree with it either but I'm not going to hate someone for it. Because in reality one person is no better than another as nobody is the same. What one person sees as a flaw another will see it as desirable quality or trait.

Sometimes it's best to take things as they are.

Edit: Not like I did not expect the downvotes. The people on these boards are not exactly known for their maturity.

dialMARK4acti0n5 votes

Don't worry about downvotes. Your opinion is your opinion and that's ok as long as you're cool about it and respect others. You are being very mature and you're talking very logically. I hope I can express myself more like you express yourself someday ^^

Diana x Me4 votes

Don't worry about downvotes. Your opinion is your opinion and that's ok as long as you're cool about it and respect others. You are being very mature and you're talking very logically. I hope I can express myself more like you express yourself someday ^^

Thank you. You are too kind. I have been trying to keep my emotions from effecting that of which I am trying to convey and express. I find people are less hostile when things are done in this format.

OuttaControl563 votes

I can't stand ZedxSyndra. Gonna come clean with it.

They're too darn antagonistic to one another. They follow two different callings. I don't see it working.

Can't wait for part two though, Jarvan/Shyvana ftw.

Life Of Nami2 votes

Can't wait for part two though, Jarvan/Shyvana ftw.

Jarvan and Shyvana have already been confirmed by riot(RiotRunaan) to have no romantic ties, period. They are trusted friends and Shyvana is an asset to the Demacian military recruited by Jarvan. Further more both Shyvana and Jarvan have Alpha personalities, which is strong for leadership and warrior friendships, but extremely poor for romantic interaction.

You'll find Shy and J4 Fighting side by side and kicking ass, but you wont ever see Jarv and Shy getting romantic or frisky with each other.

What about Jarvan and Shyvana

They've already been confirmed to have no romantic ties or interest in one another. Any relationship possibility is purely fan fiction.

What's he going to write? "Well people like them together, but they don't have any actual romantic ties, next couple please"

How about something more Official and hinted at and possibly Canon Quinn and Jarvan http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/18ys5s/quinn_and_valor_ama/

Her AMA hints at it over and over again. Honestly would make a lot of sense because Quinn isn't an alpha personality she's very much a lesser, and more quirky person. She fits Jarvan very well.

dialMARK4acti0n2 votes

I love how you're so passionate about this topic and your summoner name is "Wife of Shyvana" x)

Life Of Nami1 votes

I love how you're so passionate about this topic and your summoner name is "Wife of Shyvana" x)

Everyone's creeping up Shyvana on Quinn's man, yo. Gotta say something!

cshakes1 votes

More like Lux's man :P Quinn's a commoner, and J4's almost certainly going to end up married to a woman of a Demacian noble house. (From our roster, Lux of House Crownguard, Shauna of House Vayne, Fiora of House Laurent or Sona, adopted by House Buvelle.)

Life Of Nami1 votes

More like Lux's man :P Quinn's a commoner, and J4's almost certainly going to end up married to a woman of a Demacian noble house. (From our roster, Lux of House Crownguard, Shauna of House Vayne, Fiora of House Laurent or Sona, adopted by House Buvelle.)

Quinn's a true demacian though she's not out of the possibilities. If we want to invoke that, then Shyvana is definately out of the picture, she's not even a commoner she was essentially a homeless wanderer, lowest of the civil structure. She has no blood name or ties. Quinn does.

Shy is definately out of the picture, but Quinn, not so much.

cshakes3 votes

Honestly, I think Quinn's just as far out of the running as Shyvana if you really want to invoke realism. However, I'd still most rather read (well-written) Jarvan/Shyvana. Jarvan/Quinn is another ship where the woman looks up to the man immensely and is noticeably more quiet. Jarvan/Shyvana has the potential to be a relationship of equals, and that is something I would pay to watch/read. (Shyvana is also an outsider, so any narrative would be more forgiven on the exposition parts necessary to have the reader understand the world.)

Ignoring Demacian traditions, I'd say Shyvana would be the best match, since love is just a class of friendship, and they have plenty in common. In terms of interesting to observe, J4/Shyv would top my list. (Though Vayne, Fiora, Kat and Cass would be interesting, too.)

Life Of Nami3 votes

Honestly, I think Quinn's just as far out of the running as Shyvana if you really want to invoke realism. However, I'd still most rather read (well-written) Jarvan/Shyvana. Jarvan/Quinn is another ship where the woman looks up to the man immensely and is noticeably more quiet. Jarvan/Shyvana has the potential to be a relationship of equals, and that is something I would pay to watch/read. (Shyvana is also an outsider, so any narrative would be more forgiven on the exposition parts necessary to have the reader understand the world.)

Ignoring Demacian traditions, I'd say Shyvana would be the best match, since love is just a class of friendship, and they have plenty in common. In terms of interesting to observe, J4/Shyv would top my list. (Though Vayne, Fiora, Kat and Cass would be interesting, too.)

Shyvana would be the worst pick of all of those because of her personality and her history. Shyvana for one is an Alpha personality, as is Jarvan, these personality types are very counter productive to each other in a romantic relationship. Shyvana psychologically due to her uncertainty in life would not be able to deal with Jarvan and his dominance, she wouldn't have any sense of control. And no Love is not a class of friendship. Shyvana and Jarvan have very different backgrounds and vastly different motivations, they have very little incommon outside of their military status and alpha behaviors.

However, Jarvan and Quinn are ACTUALLY Hinted at canon by Riot themselves, where as RiotRunaan stated not once but twice that there was nothing romantic between J4 and Shy, and that Shyvana see's him as a trusted friend.

In reality a romantic relationship between Shyvana and Jarvan would be a very poor and weakly founded relationship, as Shyvana would be vastly out of control and power, the core quirks of both Jarvans and Shyvana's personalities.

Alpha/Red personalities conflict with each other drastically. Where as Blue/Beta+Alpha compliment each other and find middle ground. Alphas fight over control in relationships, it's a trait that's been observed for thousands of years, and across vast amounts of cultures.

She and Jarvan maybe good friends, probably put their lives on the line for one another in the heat of battle, but that's military, they're military icons, Shyvana more than likely has no plausible interest in Jarvan outside of friendship. They have very little in common, by experience, motivations, and interests.

The JarvanxShyvana romantic suggestion is just too broken and conflicting, especially because Shyvana's an aggressive non feminine(butch) female.

I'd honestly question if she's even heterosexual in the first place. Considering that 10~12% of women are lesbian to begin with, that means at least 3 are possibly gay in league's roster, and my bet's would be on Vi, Riven, and Shyvana. But that's pure assumption. Most people assume that Vi is gay, which is pretty well deserved, but Shyvana is literally the same type of character that Vi is(Butch non fem female and Female Power Fantasy character), except she's even less feminine than Vi. The only reason people assume Vi is gay and Shy is straight is because of the gender of the supporting character in their lore. Cait is female, Jarvan is male. Imagine if it was Vayne who helped Shyvana instead of Jarvan.

In the end, the assumption that Shy has any romantic interest in Jarvan is already denied by Riot officially, and if we truely consider the lore of the characters and their personalities, Shy's and Jarv's personalities conflict in a romantic way, but bolster warrior friendship.

cshakes1 votes

Firstly, I've already refuted your "Red personalities don't get on romantically" (me and my partner are both very heavily Reds according to the first online test I found). Relationships between equals work. It's possible to want a relationship with someone who won't dominate or be a doormat.

Gender expression has nothing to do with sexuality. For all we know, the statistical three lesbians could be Cassiopeia, Sona and Miss Fortune.

Gross2 votes

Firstly, I've already refuted your "Red personalities don't get on romantically" (me and my partner are both very heavily Reds according to the first online test I found). Relationships between equals work. It's possible to want a relationship with someone who won't dominate or be a doormat.

Gender expression has nothing to do with sexuality. For all we know, the statistical three lesbians could be Cassiopeia, Sona and Miss Fortune.

A rather large amount of text considering I only stated that I find Jarvan/Shyvana more appealing than Jarvan/Quinn.

You bring up a good point. But I think people see '' opposites attract '' as a really attractive and sought after trait in a relationship.

I don't think real world statistics work in Runeterra. There might not even be a definition for different kinds of sexualities. Everyone is just sexual, and nobody really bats an eye about it. But this is all just speculation.

cshakes2 votes

Honestly, even most examples people use to prove "opposites attract" are ... not opposites, really. Garen/Kat was mentioned in the OP as one, and really, they're both warriors who are proud of their nation and want it to succeed, and all that jazz. The only opposite is which side of the border they're on. In my experience, the relationships of people who are similar to each other last longer and often look healthier to the outside.

Honestly, I'd like for the lore team to state that there is no homo-/hetero-/bisexuality on Runeterra and just say that everyone's on a different point of the Kinsey scale and doesn't think much about it, though nobles typically find someone to reproduce with.

IceKingChernobog2 votes

what about Ziggs xJinx Caitlyn xVi Udyr xNidalee Fizz xNami Zac xRiven Rengar xNidalee Zac xTwitch

Keilp1 votes

Aren't Lee Sin and Nidalee thought to be a thing after the former's Pool Party skin? Also, where did the Zac x Riven one come from? I see it all over the place, but I have no clue where it started.

IceKingChernobog3 votes

Apparently Zac is in the background of Battle bunny riven's splash art and the crack pairing started from there

Kinjishi11 votes

Nautilus x Anchor Yorick x Shovel

Linna Excel2 votes

No Ahri X Leona yuri rumors? They are a much better couple than Leona X Diana. Especially after that video riot release with them as partners.

junglerboy165 votes

I thought it was supposed to be Pantheon X Leona... Diana hates Leona's guts

Bodkins Odds2 votes

They were actually pretty close before the Solari elders tried to kill Diana. After that? Not so much. Exactly how close is open to interpretation though.

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