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I for one actually like the fun, confident, flirty, and sexy Miss Fortune we currently have in-game.

yay nibbers··54 votes·11,038 views

Even if I don't play her much because I'm not much of an ADC player, It's the MF I personally fell in love with and I know I'm not the only one (She was popular long before even the Bilgwater lore update after all). Now, MF's voice lines right now are definitely lacking, but I like the personality she's got. She's all the things I say in the title, confident, flirty, fun, and even kickass. But now in the lore she's become vindictive for the sake of it just to look more "badass." This game has lots of serious badass characters already, I appreciate current MF's levity. Current in-game MF is a fun character.

To help demonstrate visually what I mean, here's a couple pictures (both official art):

http://universe-meeps.leagueoflegends.com/v1/assets/images/image-gallery/miss_fortune_vs_gp.jpg This is the Miss Fortune we see in the game. Fun and sexy but still kickass.

http://universe-comics.leagueoflegends.com/comics/en_us/missfortune/fortune-smiles/desktop/missfortune-01-21-pa.jpg This is some sort of psychopath. Hollow, fueled by vengeance and self-righteousness but apparently more than willing to abandon her principles when the going gets tough. Seems to have little regard for how her actions affect everyone else. No longer a particularly fun or even likable character.

And just for reference, below are all her in-game voice lines. A lot of people say she's little more than walking cleavage, but I don't see it that way. To be fair, there isn't a whole lot there, but a fun if cocky personality shines through. This is the Miss Fortune I think they should develop if they ever were to do a voice-over update for her. https://image.prntscr.com/image/s7Qly2i9R9aOXDoJ970mbw.png

If they were to change her personality with voice-over, I think they should give her Captain Fortune skin its own set of VO for that. That is, keep her other skins the fun Miss Fortune we have now (just with updated VO), and give her Captain skin its own voice lines to reflect her lore character. It's her lore skin after all. It'd be like a reverse Gangplank deal, where his Captain Gangplank skin has its own less serious VO reflective of a different time for him in his lore.

59 Comments

Johnny El Rojo33 votes

Personallly, I like the Miss Fortune of the lore previous to this comic. The one that tries to better herself only to make Bilgewater a better place. The one that got hurt by a shadow tentacle protecting a little girl during Shadow and Fortune. Not the one that many think is implied here. The one becoming like Gangplank. The one that, as mentioned here, shot an injured man while smiling.

The Miss Fortune of the lore is ruthless? Yes. But by the end of Shadow and Fortune, she was kind of in the travel to better herself. The contrary would be getting her back at the beggining. When she blew up Gangplank's ship without thinking in the damage to the city. The one that felt guilty about what happened to the city, and realized how hollow her vengeance was.

kitcat3007 votes

Why not both?

My conclusion was that this took place after Burning Tides, but before Shadow and Fortune.

Placentas17 votes

Yeah I don't see why people want MF to be this one dimensional character, either flirty or badass. The reality is, MF is both. She knows how to work both sides of her personality, and I think the flirty side isn't just a facade, it's how Sarah would have been if GP hadn't wrecked her life.

And by flirty I don't mean a slut or whatever. Like I love that she shoots the guy and says she is smiling. That guy tried to demean MF as a person and a woman, you don't tell a woman to smile for your pleasure. She remembered that and she got her bit of joy out of killing him. Both sides of MF on display right there.

Hexs Fortune5 votes

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Yeah I don't see why people want MF to be this one dimensional character, either flirty or badass. The reality is, MF is both. She knows how to work both sides of her personality, and I think the flirty side isn't just a facade, it's how Sarah would have been if GP hadn't wrecked her life.

And by flirty I don't mean a slut or whatever. Like I love that she shoots the guy and says she is smiling. That guy tried to demean MF as a person and a woman, you don't tell a woman to smile for your pleasure. She remembered that and she got her bit of joy out of killing him. Both sides of MF on display right there.

This.

You don't need to choose...

MF is a Greyjoy...and a Stark

[sg-miss-fortune]

Placentas2 votes

Reak MF Legendary Skin confirmed lol!

cocacolalips6 votes

people don't want to acknowledge her more casual side, they only talk about serious business mf and femme fatale mf (who are the same thing really), that's the problem

she is more than that, she holds a tavern, she drinks beer, she has affairs, she travels around, she is fun to hang out with etc think Taylor Swift that like every teenager girl and young adult adore, she is pretty, funny, witty, likeable, accessible, relatable, warm, feminine, confident, capable, she portrays a modern image of the ideal young woman that every young girl, teenager and woman aspire to be, and that's also what girls like about miss fortune, sure her lara croft impersonation isn't bad, but that's not why she stands out from the rest.

HalfTangible31 votes

To be fair, MF tried to play the flirty, fun and confident angle before going to shooting the wounded man while smirking. She does want to be better for the city than GP. This wasn't simply a matter of 'abandoning her principles' at the drop of a hat; she made every attempt to negotiate with people who just stole everything from her, and only went on to kill them once it became clear that all 3 were arrayed against her, and that the man she was negotiating with was planning to blow her head off with her own gun after banging her (no pun intended). This was AFTER they betrayed the principles of parley and stole her weapons.

She may be the principled one in Bilgewater, but she's still in a city of pirates and killers.

yay nibbers3 votes

She tried ONCE to do it the "nice way," then resorted to ambushing unarmed men to get the job done. That is, she did what she was trying to avoid the whole time. This is the abandoning her principles at the drop of a hat I mentioned. At the meeting in the beginning of the comic her first thought is to just kill them all, but knew that would create more chaos and thought herself better than that. Evidently she wasn't better than that and has no regard for what happens to Bilgewater, one failed attempted at diplomacy and it's bloody murder time.

We can't honestly be expected to believe she did everything she could to avoid just gunning them all down in cold blood after a single rather lazy attempt at diplomacy. Putting on a pretty dress and acting flirty, an act that buddy saw through by the way, is seriously the best she could do to avoid just straight up killing them all? I don't buy it.

Umbral Regent18 votes

Honestly? That probably was the best she could do. Bragg delighted in belittling her after she learned of the Conclave turning against her, and Crow probably couldn't have cared less about what Sarah wanted. All that left was the blowhard Harker, and, as you said - he saw through her ruse.

So, Bragg and Crow are already her enemies, and Harker turns on her in an instant. What other options does she have? With at least one major gang gunning for her, and another already weighed out of her favor, and one probably not caring (or at the worst, weighed as much against her as Bragg's, since she says he and Crow go way back), she's left with...Oh, right. Half of her crew. 'Cause the other half were redistributed to Harker, Bragg, and Crow's gangs.

D'you really think she could've gone for more diplomacy when there are 1-3 gangs ready to kill her on-sight?

This all being said, though, I do agree with the main discussion that her flirtiness and swagger should be kept if they update her VO - she did canonically put on a damn good face before blowing Gangplank up.

yay nibbers3 votes

I'm not sure I agree, but it's hard to say considering the comic never actually explores any other possibilities. Personally, I don't think it's very well written and the writer just doesn't really understand the character Riot was developing before this comic. In a short story before, she gets the attention of some pirate who's apparently a huge badass by kidnapping his brother and she has him ready to do whatever he wants to get him back. She ends up shooting him because he was one of Gangplanks goons, but it shows she's resourceful and knows how to get things done. In this comic however we don't see any of that though as she just skips to the easiest solution at the first failed attempt at doing it a better way. That doesn't really sound like the Miss Fortune we've seen in the past to me. I feel like if a better writer were behind the wheel she would've found a better way to handle things.

HalfTangible15 votes

"one failed attempt" Three, actually, which is kind of impressive given how short this comic is.

After several months of negotiating back and forth, the people she was negotiating with decided to steal her best weapons. She was unable to talk them into giving said weapons back to her at the initial meeting.

She then flirted with one of them to try and gain an ally on the council. Didn't work, because they were both trying to seduce each other.

So she tried more direct diplomacy. His response was to shoot at her with her own guns and then sic three gangs (including about half of her old one) on her.

Your opposition has violated truce for parley, attempted to get sex out of you before killing you, and has shown that they have no interest in actual negotiation. At that point, why negotiate further? They're trying to kill you.

Placentas14 votes

"She may be the principled one in Bilgewater, but she's still in a city of pirates and killers."

Yooo this so much. Can this just be copy and pasted into all these threads.

yay nibbers4 votes

I liked that Fortune too. A combination of the fun MF now and the one we saw on Shadow and Fortune would be excellent. An MF that knows how to have fun but has a serious purpose in the world.

The comic tries too hard to make her as "badass" as possible imo. Not to say that she can't or shouldn't be badass, but the MF we see in the comic doesn't even seem real. She herself sets up the scenario that just killing the gang leaders would lead to even more chaos than there already is, but then ends up doing exactly that anyway. I thought she cared what happened to Bilgewater? She's barely recognizable as the character they were previously developing and isn't really even a believable character anymore. She might as well be some generic action-movie character now...

Beyond Legends2 votes

But she never really wanted to better Bildgewater the first place, hell she only after decided to take lead after shadow fortune. MF spend most of her life wanting to kill gankplanks, she spend most her life plotting gp murder than she did protecting or help bildgewater. I mean we've seen how much of a mess bildgewater becones afrer gp “dies”and the lack of proper leadership because of his abdsence.

I don't think mf goals were ever noble tp begin with, she is driven by vegence more than she is with ideals or pricinple. This has been implied through most of her lore pieces.

Johnny El Rojo2 votes

Burning Tides was about her vengeance. Shadow and Fortune, is about her realizing her mistakes, and making save Bilgewater in her new objective for the long time. Hell, at the end of Shadow and Fortune, she even scolds Lucian about the hollowness of vengeance. I see SandF as her epiphany after seeing what she did to the city after killing Gangplank. She wanted to kill Gangplank at first for vengeance, and then also because she view him as the cause of everything bad with Bilgewater. After killing him, she realized she was wrong, and starts trying to take control of the city to protect it.

Valaran Nara5 votes

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Personallly, I like the Miss Fortune of the lore previous to this comic. The one that tries to better herself only to make Bilgewater a better place. The one that got hurt by a shadow tentacle protecting a little girl during Shadow and Fortune. Not the one that many think is implied here. The one becoming like Gangplank. The one that, as mentioned here, shot an injured man while smiling.

The Miss Fortune of the lore is ruthless? Yes. But by the end of Shadow and Fortune, she was kind of in the travel to better herself. The contrary would be getting her back at the beggining. When she blew up Gangplank's ship without thinking in the damage to the city. The one that felt guilty about what happened to the city, and realized how hollow her vengeance was.

She was avoiding coming to this, but she was in a do or die situation which she died to take control of. If she didn't do anything, they would keep voting against her to where she had nothing. In order to keep control, she had to get one of them to join her. That plan didn't work cause he tried to kill her, and he would obviously try to get the others to finish her off. Right now, smiling gets the point across to the one she needs to relay the message of "don't fuck over Fortune." Oh, and she also shot the guy who was being a womanizer and spoke to her like she was some random girl on the street.

Eternal7912 votes

I haven't read Burning Tides, but is it possible that the comic is between Burning Tides and Shadow and Fortune? That could explain the character difference, as by the time Shadow and Fortune comes around she might realize she's not entirely sure she likes the way she's been doing things.

OverpoweredSoap17 votes

I mean.

She can be both?

She is basically both sexy and dangerous.

She's bad ass and she gets shit done, by literally being a sexy bombshell. She is hot and she uses that to her advantage but she also has the power to just straight up murder people if she feels like it, without the whole sexy thing.

She can still have flirtyness in her VO but also have a serious tone.

Miss Fortune's character is both a woman who uses her body to her advantage but also uses her guns to her advantage as well.

She doesn't have to be just one, she can be both.

cocacolalips6 votes

the thing is, you seem to only acknowledge her more sexy and carefree personality as part of the job, which is still kind of serious, that's what job means. she is a human being beyond her job you know with a normal life and stuff, she likes to travel, she likes to drink alcohol, she likes to hang out with men, like every woman ever, and I think a lot of people are overlooking that.

Tattersall8 votes

Upvoting because rational arguments, calm tone, non-accusatory, and actually suggesting a solution.

łnśane8 votes

What I don't understand is why people keep thinking "I want MF to change/ I don't like In-game MF" = I don't want MF to be sexy, I want her to be only serious. Since when was this? When I see some threads stating how they like in-game MF over lore MF it's annoying. In-game MF has barely any lines and some of them just makes her sound like she want to have sex wit you, Summoner. She ain't even a lust demon like Evelyn. She deserves more lines. She deserves a legendary skin. She's how old? 7? Jinx got one before her come ON.

When I started playing MF I won't lie. I played her because her tits are as big as mine. Didn't care much for lore, until I started getting addicted to this game. In lore MF is classy-sexy. Classy-Sexy women are usually, fun, confident,and flirty btw. She is a woman who knows how to kill a douche, while looking pretty. My favorite skin is Captain MF (and Road Warrior), It shows MF as a badass woman who takes no shit, while looking sexy. She doesn't have to be nearly naked to show that she's sexy. I stated before and I'll state it again. "I'm obsessed with MF".

So no when someone is saying "I don't like in-game MF" it doesn't mean "I don't like sexy MF, I want her to be only serious" It means "I don't like in-game MF. I don't like the lack of lines she has. I don't like that she doesn't portray all of what and who she is."

PS. Just give me Legendary Dread Nova MF and we gucci fam. [sg-miss-fortune]

yay nibbers3 votes

When I say I like in-game MF I don't mean I want her to only have her handful of voice lines, of course I want there to be more to her in-game. I say as much in my post. What I'm really saying is I like the particular personality she has, though it may be a bit underdeveloped in-game. In-game MF is a fun, kickass character. The MF we saw in the comic isn't particularly fun.

And I'm sure you don't think she should only be serious, but the way others negatively refer to her old VO (calling her slut, whore, etc) suggest they might. Even you seem to refer to her sexual lines negatively when they're actually a relatively small portion of her VO. Even Riot Jinxylord/August seems to share this sentiment, looking back on MF with apparent shame. This same Rioter who answered the question of whether they'll do sexy champions again, saying they're okay if it "fits" the character.

Miss Fortune definitely deserves an updated VO, it's just comments I see around have me worried they might actually drop her old personality for what we see in the comic which is barely MF at all even compared to the other lore that came before it. She was great in Burning Tides and Shadow and Fortune. There we saw an MF who learned the emptiness of revenge, one who wanted to better herself and show Bilgewater they don't need a Gangplank to survive, all while keeping a good sense of humor and being a fun, kickass character. In the comic she's a vindictive psycho with little regard for what effect her actions have on others, yet I see people clamoring over how "badass" she is in the comic and straight up comments like "I want this MF in-game." You think threads like mine are annoying, but to me those other threads are annoying because it really does seem like they want to get rid of Sexy MF when they call her things like "sex doll" and "slut" with no regard for the rest of her admittedly underdeveloped personality. I'm just trying to bring light to the other side of things here. I don't want her to not be updated to include her badass qualities, I just don't want her fun side to go away.

Also, I totally agree MF is way overdue for a legendary skin.

Jeddy0177 votes

I think a MF VO update shouldn't completely remove all the fun from her VO. The fun & cockiness should still remain (especially considering she has a number of fun sexy skins & an overly serious & dark VO would clash with them). What they should do is give her a few lines that hint at the darker & more serious side of Sarah.

If they really went to give her serious side a full VO, then they could put it on her Captain skin like you suggested.

Sagan Forever7 votes

One of her OG lines is " I always shoot first". I think she has always been this character. The comic is showing her journey becoming a more hardened person who is trying to avoid become the person she hates. While at the same time seeing the reasons for his actions( in a way humanizing GP). This makes her a fleshed out character that has good and bad to her. I personally do not prefer the flat sexuized object, but instead the character that she is becoming.

MF is my Waifu6 votes

Yes. I wish people would stop trying to change my waifu. Don't you see? She is perfect the way she is.

Jayce Top5 votes

They made Miss Fortune look ugly in the new comic

yay nibbers5 votes

I thought so too. It's weird because she's always been portrayed as beautiful and quite, er, voluptuous, but in the comic it's like they refuse to acknowledge that she's a beautiful busty woman. Even when she purposely dressed sexy and seductive she looked rather homely...

cocacolalips5 votes

the last 2 comics were silly and immature (mf and jinx x ziggs). dunno who is making them but it's not very good.

the bilgewater event and the 3 minutes animation were fairly decent in comparison. they have yet to acknowledge mf as a more glamour character tho. there was that skins sale one year ago where mf had the right tone imo calling others darling and being all feminine and sassy in a fun way, but that's not really the same haha

yay nibbers5 votes

Different artists on both but they're both written by Anthony Burch. He was the lead writer for Borderlands 2, a game full of memes for jokes, so that should tell you everything you need to know. At least the Ziggs x Jinx was supposed to be silly so he did an alright job there, but this latest MF comic he kind of dropped the ball I think. I don't think he quite understands Miss Fortune as she's been developed previously.

cocacolalips4 votes

tbh, I just think mf character is simply too mature for the average reader/player, when you are 12-16 yo, everything has to be kind of black or white, you are good or you are evil, if you like sex you are a slut etc but the world isn't that simple, it's more nuanced, and sexuality is part of every adult daily life and should not be looked down upon, mf is your average 20-30 something extrovert girl, she has a job yes, she has a backstory and a past, she has motivations, but she also has hobbies, she likes to hang out and party, she likes alcohol, she likes to be engaged in some serious and less serious relationships etc and I think a lot of people are overlooking that or don't understand it.

now I'm not saying riot nailed her the first time around and wrote a deep and rich character or even that's what they had in mind in the first place, they clearly didn't but she still comes out that way and that character even tho not all that fleshed out at first is still a good character and one they should build upon in the future, instead of replacing it with something else.

ULTRAF0RCE1 votes

He's likely influenced by her story and bio both of which illustrate someone who's obsessed with revenge and any semblance of flirtiness is a means to the end and not an aspect of her intrinsic personality and instead, just a tool to use to take advantage of the more foolish of Bilgewater. Her not being super honorable and becoming cruel like Gangplank is very much shown in Down Among the Dead Men where she drowns a guy's brother and killed all her crew to make sure to keep her family's guns out of the hands of Gangplanks goons and then shoots him twice and explains not actually giving the guy a burial by the wharfrats need to eat.

I Main Swain4 votes

exactly my thoughts. i saw someone say that the current MF in game was a "sex doll" while yes shes very sexualized thats also a big part of her character, shes a Femme Fatale (beautiful girl who is deadly/brings about downfall). i LOVE the whole flirtatious, sassy, deadly, "blow em a kiss as you blow a hole through them" vibe she has, shes one of my favorite characters for it. now i will say that the most recent comic i dont like the way they painted her, but tbh ive always had a personal policy that if theres a story that i like and the writer does something that i thing is stupid af i decide that no that did not happen "this" actually happened. for example, everything in the maximum ride series past book 3? that doesnt exist. percy jackson movies? definitely dont exist.

anyways, MF is awesome as is, only thing i would say is make captain fortune her base skin because its 1902436193824192364981623498162349261x better than the classic and imo it fits her character waaaay better too (that or just update the classic to actually look good and fit her character and not just be a "show off the girls" pose)

Dreamspitter3 votes

You realize she's actively trying not to be like Gangplank in this comic?

yay nibbers5 votes

So she says, pretty specifically, but if you ask me she didn't try very hard...

Wrathof3007 votes

That's the beauty of the story, Gangplank and MissFortune have different intentions, but the method is still the same, because for the longest time there has only been one way in Bilgewater Gangplank :"My way." The challenge presented to Miss Fortune is to rule Bilgewater with the same strictness without becoming her worst nightmare, and that's if she has the time to do so, Gp will return, Miss Fortune may never truly unify Bilgewater.

ZER0 23 votes

To be honest, she's still fun, flirty and confident. There's parts in the story where she is too. She's always been violet in lore, she's a pirate LOL. It wouldn't hurt to add onto the fun and flirtyness we see to give her some depth, trust me. [slayer-jinx-unamused]

Burn Hazard3 votes

Thank god someone else gets it. the Miss Fortune I know would never let herself get victimized so thoroughly before murdering someone in cold blood. The Miss Fortune I know wouldn't be scared, and she definitely wouldn't just give up her guns because some old jerkoff told her so. This is the same woman who, in previous incarnations, stared gangplank down after he drunkenly threatened to murder his own men. Making Miss Fortune a brooding, violent sociopath just reinforces the message that sex is bad, and if you express yourself in any kind of fun or flirty manner you're a villain.

Chromatic Eagle3 votes

Oh thank god I thought I was alone in thinking this. Sadly, the old MF is gone, but I’d like to think there’s a way to combine traits from both new and old MF into a new VO.

Atuko2 votes

No one is trying to take away the sexuality and flirtyness of MF, I'm pretty sure that we can all agree that these aspects are just a general part of MF's character

With all of this character development she's been having, we just want to her appear less one-dimension than she currently does in-game

SolarisCorvus2 votes

I liked the mf in the comic. Shows that while she is trying to improve herself and bilgewater, the city and its will keep trying to drag itself and her down. It shows hiw mf tries to use her looks to solve the problem peacefully and she uses her guns and creepy smile to build up a scary facade. If they give her a VU they should make it a little bit of fun and hot stuff, while also touching on how she doesnt want to be like GP.

CasterGilgamesh2 votes

i also liked MF from the original lore i was sad that MF and GP have to hate each other i remember from the Old JOJ in one event mf stopped gangplank from killing one of his crew out of rage and they were slowly putting their differences aside during the Harrowing

Solideus2 votes

Yeah I agree actually. If the writers don't reign back a bit on the grimdark they're gonna alienate those that are attached to the in-game persona rather than the more "post-hoc" lore MF.

I think there can be a nice balance between the two, but they do lean a bit too heavily on the grimdark, and I don't necessarily think the playful MF should be 100% a facade. "Dark, Gritty & Vengeful" does not equal "Interesting Character", and a bit of genuine provocative/playful doesn't automatically mean one-dimensional or sexist or whatever.

Johnny El Rojo1 votes

Yeah. I agree with you in the grimdark turn they are taking. I think the better example of this is Leona. In the old lore, she was the only sane voice of reason in an organization of religious zealots. Now? She is the leader of the religious zealots. Did they really needed to make her this way to make the conflict between her and Diana believable? She went to from being the classic idealistic Captain America of LoL, to the griddy and fascist of Ultimate Captain America.

General Esdeath 1 votes

"Step to."

I thought it was "Step two" this whole time

Monsta Moo1 votes

I wholeheartedly agree! [sg-miss-fortune]

Dzoni871 votes

Why this topic always has to be pulled off, every time Riot releases new material for MF, be it videos, comics, etc? People should get over it. Especially ones that are requesting Captain skin to be the default one.

Riot already stated, just right after that developer blog about sexyness, that they are ok with MF's visual appeal and they dont plan to change it, other than splash updates for a couple of skins (which she desperatelly need imo) and VO in some more distant future.

More on that Captain skin, however. If you want that skin so badly, purchase it. I for one would be pretty mad about it switching places with her default one. Its not the cheap skin either and i paid for it, so id hate to see it becoming free without some serious compensation from Riot's side (and nothing less than refund in RP at least... :P )

Kjarik1 votes

It's okay to have wrong opinions.

Cavemantero1 votes

The Bilgewater event lore was the best. I agree with OP...she looks like the psycho girlfriend girl there...but whatever...small potatoes compared to how they butchered Evelynn.

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