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Just had a thought about Baron

Zach Sandwhich·10/10/2016, 3:35:56 AM·1 votes·928 views

I was watching the Star Guardian Music Video, and during the fight scene between them and Baron Nashor, It just sorta clicked in my mind

Baron is NOT the highest ranking in any hierarchy at any time to my knowledge, so does that mean that

A. We know of something bigger and badder than Baron?

or

B. We think there is something Bigger and Badder than Baron?

Obviously there is something, it's directly referenced in Aurelion Sol's lore, but are there any other beings besides that Void-God thing that Sol see/feels during his lore, that are worse than the Baron? Also I'm pretty sure that anything Aurelion knows about from that event, no human knows about since I doubt that cynical asshole was willing to talk about it.

My immediate thoughts went to something such as Rek'sai, Kog'maw, Vel'koz, Kha'zix, etc.

In theory if Kha'Zix ate enough powerful beings he would evolve past Baron.

Vel'Koz doesn't seem like much of a match since in his cinematic, his eyeball only seems to about the size of our homie helmet bro if just a tiny bit bigger.

Baron seems to be able to swallow any of the Star Guardians whole if they got close enough.

Rek'sai doesn't seem like she would even be a match for Baron.

Kog'Maw can barely run faster than a turtle so I doubt he would do any better.

Cho'Gath has been said to be able to Eat Planets so obviously he would just be able to munch down on Baron after eating enough, but thats dependent.

I do remember somewhere that Kog'Maw mentions "Daddy" so maybe Kog'Maw species works similar to Rek'Sai and live in hives/family groups, and this "Daddy" is some big ass version of Kog'Maw.

Just wanted to know what you guys thought, and wanted to get some healthy discussion going on the topic of the Void Hail Sithis

TL;DR Baron is not the highest Rank in any hierarchy to my knowledge, so what monster is so fucking big and bad that it outranks Baron?

7 Comments

GreenLore10/10/2016, 9:09:58 AM2 votes

Uhm Cho'gath was never implied to eat planets...

Anyway,there is no clear void hierarchy. Baron might be the most powerful void creature,or not,we don't know.

I mean just because there was a void creature able to create portals between the void and runeterra doesn't mean it is more powerful than Baron;).

mr Boombastic78710/10/2016, 10:25:46 AM1 votes

I don't think the void have a specific leader or hierarchy. I don't think they have a hivemind ether. I think every (with exceptions) voidborn is independent. I think they are more like familys/groups/have kingdoms. I also think some are primitive. I don't think it is a big bad that is the emperor of void I think that maybe the one laughing one (the one that au sol fears) is a leader of a family/Group/kingdom/army.

RekSai is the Queen of the xer-sai. I think they are A. Primitive creatures and the strongest gets to rule in their terratory. or B. She is the leader of their people like Swain is for noxus or JarvanIV for demacia.

I think the one that luaghs at AurelionSol is just another leader. He or she is probably more powerful then RekSai. I think this leader lead his/her army of voidborn through this portal/rift to targon to invade them. I don't think it was the biggest and most scary being in the void.

I think these diffrent familys of the void can go to war against each other like humans do. I dont think all of them are buddies and think exactly the same as each other.

Then I also think that some do control each other. I think Malzahar have control over his voidlings and that some of the stronger creatures control their fellow voidborn.

Then we have Baron Nashor, Chogath and Khazix who dont really fit in to any of this. I think they are lone wolfs who consumes powerfull beings to get more powerful themselfs. I dont think Baron is Close to the most powerful voidcreature lore wise. I think they have a god that created Everything inside their dimension like we have AurelionSol but I don't think he controls everything or is their king.

This is just a theory and I can be completely wrong.

FlashNeko10/10/2016, 2:29:49 PM1 votes

If we presume the Star Guardian vids are the first opening sequence for the show, then the traditional language of those sequences implies that Nashor is the first story arc's Main Villain.

In subsequent arcs, if the show doesn't have a big enough budget, his part would just be replaced with whoever took over once he was dead.

To that end, yeah, I can see Nashor being relatively low on the Void's threat hierarchy. Sure he's huge and powerful, but by all accounts he's a mindless beast so he can't really employ trickery or philisophical debate into his battles, which tend to make up the meat of late season conflicts.