Juggernauts for Targon and Piltover?

EbonyBladeJ88·2/15/2018, 3:00:47 AM·3 votes·1,048 views

Looking at the current line-up of Juggernauts in League of Legends, I've realized that two regions are missing a Juggernaut in their champion pools.

These two regions are Targon and Piltover. One could also include the Void, but since the most recent Champion Roadmap says we're getting a new ADC from there, we probably shouldn't expect a new one from that region any time soon.

So this is basically just a brainstorming session for ideas that could be used for Juggernauts that might come from the two above named regions, which currently lack one in their existing champion pools.

Some ideas I had for Targon, were as follows:

Mount Targon is basically Mount Olympus, Runeterra style. So I was thinking that a Juggernaut from that region would probably have to take some cues from Greek mythology, legends and so on. One thing they could do is take things like the Epic Odyssey, or the story of Theseus or any other number of Greek legends, stories or myths and spin their usual LOL style on it. Riot could take inspirations from characters based around that idea, like for example Sophitia or Cassandra from the Soulcalibur series, who use short swords and small shields and are from Greece in that game series. Ancient Greek Military often focused around combat between individuals, which lines up very well with the "Duelist" or "strong in 1V1 fights" theme that the Juggernauts often portray. They used spears and shields (Though Pantheon already takes the shield and spear part) as well as short swords. Javelins, bows and other similar weapons formed their ranged capabilities. But since Juggernauts are mainly melee (With the exception of Urgot since his rework) let's try to keep this hypothetical Targon Juggernaut melee-ranged.

A sword, aside from the commonly seen Gladius or other similar short swords that Greeks used were known as Kopis. They were similar to the Roman-based Falcatas, or very akin to Kukris of modern-day. They looked something like the following two images.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2f/Iron_machaira_%28sword%29_MET_SF2001346.jpg

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Falcata_%C3%ADbera_%28M.A.N._Madrid%29_01_vertical.jpg

(If these pictures aren't showing, let me know and I'll try to fix the link or find alternate images)

Since Pantheon has the spear-wielder spot occupied, perhaps our hypothetical Targonian Juggernaut could wield this style of sword, or perhaps the more commonly seen Gladius. Either one could work.

For Piltover, SatomiKun had the following basic idea for a Piltover Juggernaut in another thread of mine: "Piltover could have some form of battle machine.... Maybe a hextech vehicle with heavy armor and weaponry, or someone wearing a heavy battle suit." -SatomiKun

It would obviously have to involve some type of technological aspect, considering Piltover's pseudo-futuristic nature. Perhaps it could be Hex-Tech related, perhaps not. I'm really pulling a blank with Piltover, unfortunately. Rumble (Although he's not affiliated with Piltover, rather he's Bandle City) kind of already takes the "Battle-Suit" spot with his machine Tristy, at least in my opinion. So it would probably have to be something else. Jayce also takes the "Huge Weapon" idea with his Mercury Hammer/Cannon. Vi also kind of does with her huge gauntlets/fists. This is the one that really needs more help. Targon has countless forms of inspiration with the wide array of things to take from Greek mythology, legends and so on.

So I'd like to see what ideas my fellow community members can come up with, for both Targon and Piltover.

27 Comments

Chembaron Yamada2/15/2018, 4:43:27 AM5 votes

Nice that you made this to an own discussion. ^^


While I see where you are coming from with the Gladius idea for Targon, it doesn't really fit the "gigantic fighter who let's the earth tremble" idea you had in your last thread. You mentioned Sophitia and Cassandra, they both look way more like swift and mobile fighters, than a big unstoppable, yet immobile force.

Regarding Greek mythology, what about.... reworking a champion into Targons juggernaut? Malphite could be a Targonian champion, he needs a new lore anyway. And he could be kinda inspired by one of the titans in Greek mythology.

One version of his lore in the past was that he was a member of an ancient alien rock species. They could partially keep that, he is a secret weapon of Mount Targon, an ancient being and he gets sent to Runeterra as a meteorite.


Piltover is extremely hard to think of anything.... either the trope is already taken (like you mentioned, Rumble and Jayce for example) or the design would naturally fit better into Zaun....

Let's try another approach. What would be a character type that I would connect to the concept of a Piltover Juggernaut. I think we could use a criminal.

Piltover has Caitlyn and Vi (Piltover's Finest) ensuring law in the city. The only mentions in the lore for villains they are fighting are Jinx (who is a Zaunite occasionally visiting Piltover) and C (Camille). However, Jinx is just out there for fun and Camilles intentions are not evil, she wants to protect the city in her own way.

Having a truly evil character from Piltover would be great. A new criminal for them to fight, someone who intentionally wants to harm people, a murderer for example.

Something like the "Jack the Ripper" of Piltover. I know that Jayce already has the heavy hextech weapon, but it's really hard to think of a Juggernaut without such. My take would be a hextech chainsaw.

Yes, it would kinda be a heavy hextech weapon, but I think the sheer brutality would make it different from Jayce. It lacks the elegance which is usually inherent of hextech weapons, the crystals are just there to fuel a truly terrifying, flesh tearing piece of engineering.

MagicFlyingLlama2/15/2018, 3:31:06 AM3 votes

I have a feeling bandle city is due for the retcon hammer, and a lot of the hextech-related yordles are going to be relocated to piltover. Corki and Rumble definitely need visual upgrades..

Chromatic Eagle2/15/2018, 3:44:59 PM2 votes

Why not a Rakkori warrior who climbed the mountains, and nothing happened. Rather than mole about it, they hone their bodies to keep up with the aspects. With Pantheon’s retcon, we don’t have a human badass warrior from Targon.

Piltover could have a mech powered by the Bracken crystal. Something goes wrong, and the souls inside awaken. We don’t have a legion style champion besides maybe Kalista.

GreenLore2/15/2018, 1:01:56 PM1 votes

We are also lacking a bandle city juggernaut(no Rumble is considered a battlemage),so to fill up these missing juggernauts I'd suggest: Targon I think a roman gladiator could be a good fit for a juggernaut,I mean gladiators are often depicted as big muscular guys,so that would be rather fitting. The only problem I see with that concept is that it would also fit really well into Noxus,as they are known to have an arena with gladitorial fights.

The gladius and shield idea is neat,but I don't think it would really fit a juggernaut,the short sword would look a bit too scrawny.

Satomikuns idea of making Malphite a Targon champ could also work really well

Piltover I think your ideas are already pretty good. A champ in power armor could easily make a good juggernaut fitting for Piltover(Rumble uses a mech,not a power suit,a power suit would be more similar to Iron mans suit) And a champ in some sort of vehicle(I imagine a yordle in a small tank,I mean Urgot proved that ranged juggernauts aren't impossible)

Alternatively I think that a combat robot could also work out.I mean sure we already have blitzcrank as a robot,but that doesn't mean we can't have different robots in the game(I mean Orianna is pretty much a robot too),so having Bc as a work robot,Orianna as a robotic doll,I'd say that it would be possible to add a third robot champ with a more combat oriented one.

Bandle City Honestly this is rather hard to think about because we know so little about Bandle city. I mean Corki is listed as a Bandle city champ,but his lore says he now lives in Piltover,so I dunno if the yordle tank idea would make much sense for a bandle city champ.And I kinda feel like Rumble could be retconned to be a zaunite yordle who keeps the contact with Tristana through these "magical passages" that are mentioned in some of the lore-trivia bits. So I'm not really sure how technological stuff really fits with Bandle city anymore.

The void While it is unlikely for us to get a void juggernaut this year(though not impossible,I mean last year we got 3 ionia champs),I'd still like to speculate what we could get in the future. First of all I think it is possible that once Cho'gath gets his VGU eventually,he might get reworked into a juggernaut.(I was actually surprised that Cho'gath wasn't considered a juggernaut in the first place,but I guess his Q has too much range for that).

Anyway a void juggernaut shouldn't be too difficult to make. For example a sibling of Kha'zix,who ate different creatures and evolved differently into a form that resembles bugs,like the rhino beetle or scarabs. Or just flat out give us a mutated animal,like a crabmonster(ok that would likely be too similar to the rift herald),a mutated rhino/elephant vastaya a mutated dragon that turned into a hydra due to the void,etc.

So yeah lots of possibilities here.

AlienPrimate2/15/2018, 9:22:17 PM1 votes

I have said this before on different threads. Taric is the Targonian juggernaut. If he builds something along the lines of item 3025 item 3748 item 3068 item 3065 item 3075 he plays exactly like a juggernaut. There are very few champions who can 1v1 him, he has durability and damage, he lacks mobility, and he wants to pound your face in with his passive.

Neamean2/19/2018, 5:02:18 AM1 votes

With Urgot introducing ranged juggernaut I want a whip wielding juggernaut for Tagon.

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/mugen/images/2/2f/Cmof-simon-belmont.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170123153004

Maybe he could be an ex-aspect of patheon who gain immortality but is now free from the control of the aspect. He still believe in the cause and fight the void but he doesn't like how the aspect just took over his body.

Warlord Scrap2/15/2018, 4:02:58 AM1 votes

Why couldnt we get a second mech based champ though showing different aspects. Also rumble feels too wonky for a piltover champ.( not disrespect i main him.) Honestly a second mech pilot champ would be cool. This time with a more clean mech ala sg rumble.

For the targon juggernaunt what if it took more of a mid ranged champ with whips. No thresh is a whip based champ. And currently no champion uses an actual whip. I know its not a real combat weapon but neither are quite a few champs.

HonestJohnTheCon2/15/2018, 11:34:22 AM1 votes

Yeah, new juggernauts for those two regions would be nice. New assassins from those two regions as well.