So, who's looking forwards to next year's Mount Targon event?

Kent Mojo·10/5/2014, 6:52:55 PM·22 votes·5,418 views

Because seriously, it's going to happen. We all know it. Do I have to point out the parallels between item 3092 , item 3069 , and item 3401 ? We had Freljord in 2013, Shurima in 2014, and oh look, there's another lore-related support item with an appropriately iconic color scheme. Plus, they clearly haven't been ignoring the region, given IronStylus' thoughts in this thread last year. Riot's been talking about their "big lore plans" for years, and I think these three big worldbuilding pushes were all planned at roughly the same time. Hopefully we'll find out what the hell the Face of the Mountain is supposed to be in 2015 (some sort of gauntlet with a gyroscope on top?) in the Targon Patch™.

Honestly, after Freljord's successful retcons (aside from Trundle's character 180) and Shurima's disappointing lore wipe (which Rioter Jeridan says they've learned from), I'm looking forward to seeing what they learned. We'll probably get something roughly similar: a new champion, a lot of new Targonian iconography, some new summoner icons, really cool Youtube videos that get everyone hyped while telling us absolutely nothing, maybe a new featured game mode (King of the Mount Targon?), and some character VUs (Pantheon?) and TUs (Leona pls) with the traditionally appropriate amount of retcon rage surrounding them.

Okay, so here's where I'd like to do some theorycrafting. I'm sure a lot of champions will get moved to Mount Targon, and I have a bit of an idea of how this will go. I have no actual proof for any of this next part, so feel free to critique and share your impressions!

Extremely Likely Alistar : He's a big muscley warrior dude who's a former gladiator, AND he's a reference to Greco-Roman mythology. He's perfect. Janna : She's never looked like she's from Zaun at all, and from what I've seen, people have very little attachment to Janna as a character. She's ripe for a rewrite and VU, especially given Riot's occasional comment about Targon having "avatars of the elements and heavens" (check the link above). Janna would be perfect for this, since she's practically a blank slate in terms of personality.

I Think So Malphite : He's a big rock monster. Targon is a big mountain. Mountains are made of rock. MY LOGIC IS IRREFUTABLE. Also, maybe he's the Earth equivalent to Janna's Air.

It Could Happen Jax : Well, he needs somewhere to go. He's a warrior man with a mysterious past. I could see him hanging out with Pantheon and Alistar. Ryze : Mostly just because he doesn't have any lore ties currently. Plus, that beard is like unto an Olympian God.

Probably Not Taric : He's a knight from an ancient order with a similarly blank slate as far as lore goes. He'd go great living deep inside a mountain, mining rare gemstones and drawing his ancient magic from within the earth. The only reason he isn't higher on the list is because the website lists him as being from Demacia for some reason.

Still More Likely Than Magma Chamber Annie : Uh...well, she needs SOMEWHERE to go. Fiddlesticks : Ditto.

Quite honestly, I'm looking forward to all this, especially because they don't seem to have any obvious plans for afterwards. Hopefully that's when we'll actually start seeing all these "new stories" we keep getting promised. And maybe this time Riot won't remove old lore without actually having anything to replace it with. Riot, I love you guys, but come on. Don't play with our hearts like this.

41 Comments

IRLRenekton10/5/2014, 7:01:34 PM15 votes

What I'm looking forward to is riot's half-assed reason why Jax still uses a lamp.

Sneak Dog10/5/2014, 7:36:15 PM12 votes

I feel like its going to piggyback on Leona and Diana. I think there's going to be an awful lot of mediocre to bad retcons/stories safe for the Leona and Diana story which will have little to no changes but shown awesomely. Then complaints will happen, especially from the fans of the retconned stories whom Riot will have alienated, but people will still call it a succesful event overall due to the Leona/Diana and Riot will feel a bit bad about the mediocre/bad retcons/stories but happy overall.

Then it'll get archived as a mediocre success and ignored for two years, at which time Riot suddenly realises their initial mistakes in the retcons and retcons them back, which upsets the fans of the new versions.

Ark Angel HFB10/5/2014, 7:05:39 PM8 votes

I'm dreading it honestly...

they are going to butcher Leona and Diana and then I really will have no reason to care about the lore.

C9 Scott Free 10/6/2014, 3:41:29 AM5 votes

I am mortified. I really don't want them to ruin Diana's lore. She is what made me play this game.

GenoXx10/5/2014, 7:26:18 PM4 votes

Why does it have to be NEXT YEAR when we get something new for lore???? Not saying an event but, ffs how much must we wait for this amazing world narrative keep talking about....The Joj wasn't and every thing....and even then that's still ridiculously llong for consistent lore.....something new.....every yr....

cshakes10/6/2014, 12:16:42 PM4 votes

Honestly, I think that Janna just needs a Quote Update. I'm enough of a lore person that I can't not see her as a Zaunite, but her quotes could reflect her Zaunite reformer thing better. "The winds of change shall sweep through Zaun" etc.

(Janna's a bad fit for Mount Targon. She's a squishy air mage where all of Mount Targon's champions are based on getting into melee and fucking you over.)

Malphite I can see. (The physical embodiment of Mount Targon or something.) Alistar is already from the mountain range, but not Targon. I would totally support having Jax be a Rakkor who tired of the glory of beating everyone, then left to seek greater foes. Ryze works better as a rogue mage without strong ties to any place.

Ark Angel HFB10/6/2014, 1:34:51 AM3 votes

Why would I look forward to them fucking up Leona and Diana... the last champs I care enough to write about.

Serpents Embrace10/6/2014, 6:37:47 AM3 votes

The Freljord event was okay. The Shurima event was bad. So, regardless of where or when it occurs, the next event will be horrible. mx + b

PhoenixSlayer1310/6/2014, 2:34:46 PM3 votes

I'm hesitant, to be honest.

In reality, I just want the lore team to seek our input before they make any major changes. That's really what lore fans are upset about.

I also hope that IronStylus would prevent any massive changes to Leona / Diana, because he's so incredibly invested in these characters.

As for your suggestions: could definitely see Malphite being transplanted there like Anivia was to Freljord, maybe Alistar moving there after his slavery/gladiator ordeal. Janna I feel is always going to be a bit of a wanderer, though more thought could be put into just how she developed her wind magic.

LeeDark10/5/2014, 8:33:44 PM2 votes

What ever gave you the idea the Freljord retcon was SUCCESSFUL?

EDIT: As a side note, didn't Janna already get a VU?

FFS All is OP10/6/2014, 8:58:00 PM2 votes

It's going to suck completely.

Fiddle getting retconned will be the worst considering his lore is the best they've done.

Flemman10/5/2014, 7:52:28 PM2 votes

I can see morgana and Kayle moving to targon too (despise being demacia/noxus atm) Kayle being an avatar/angel related to the solari cult, where morgana would be her counterpart for the lunar cult

Tyvani10/16/2014, 5:12:42 PM1 votes

I'm not sure how much of the lore they'd really need to change if they introduced a Mt. Targon event considering Leona and Diana's rivalry is the only real conflict the place has and it's already written out marvelously, but I have dabbled on the idea of what that sort of event would be. My thoughts were it could be another sort of faction-choosing event (maybe a bit like how the Lunar Revel worked) where you pick the Solari or the Lunari and one faction would win over the other. But there could also be a third faction, one vying for peace between them and perhaps represented by Nami, who still seeks the moonstone for her people. Considering there hasn't been much said (if anything) about the moonstone, it could very well be a Lunari artifact stolen by the Solari when they were betrayed, as was suggested in Diana's teaser.

Solideus10/5/2014, 7:02:45 PM1 votes

Alistar, Janna and Malphite I can definitely see joining the Targon faction. Jax and Taric however are tagged for Ionia and Demacia respectively on the official site, so those are less likely. Looking forward to a new champion from there as well!

Ironclad Dragon10/5/2014, 7:04:51 PM1 votes

Alistar the Minotaur.

Destínum10/5/2014, 8:36:25 PM1 votes

Oh yeah, I never thought about Janna before. Although it would make her a completely different character, I'd be fine with this since right now, as you states, she's pretty bland.

NeoJusteBelmont10/6/2014, 12:27:07 AM1 votes

They still have Halloween to attend to before they get into Targon.

If anything, I think we're gonna get a damning answer about the truth behind the Lunari massacre, is it really the Solari doing it from the bottom of their hearts, or is there an outside-influence.

Like I discussed with Argent Heretic, it also opens up possibility to transplant Aatrox into there and then say he's responsible at the massacre, moreso because his mindset meshes so well with the mindset of Rakkor tribe. This will not take away the fact he already did similar thing to Tryndamere 's tribe, this'll be just another day in work for him.

About advancing the story forward, while Diana can remain the same, I think Leona can have an advancement about how she reacts over learning the Solari's dirty little secret, she could try to be a revolutionary and find a way to apologize, or stay like Diana described her: a zealot.

If there's a new champion, I think I'd like it if it's someone directly from Rakkor, not Solari/Lunari. Pantheon needs other people to interact with than just Leona. He didn't even list Diana as a rival/enemy. Maybe a rival, or his counterpart for Diana (A Rakkor warrior disgraced but taken in by Diana and became loyal to her). As of a VU of Pantheon, I can only think of MOAR 300 references. Taunting/Joking with Leona that references to "Blot out the sun" or "Fight in the shade" would be grin-worthy and awesome.

Dreamspitter10/6/2014, 12:56:37 AM1 votes

I liked Trundles 180. SSoTP

Fried Noob10/6/2014, 7:27:18 PM1 votes

I agree with the Ali, Janna, and Malphite guesses. They all seem likely to come from there in the new Runeterra. I would also nominate Soraka for Mount Targon, considering her model is similar to a Satyr and she was almost a god.

Demacry10/6/2014, 10:25:10 PM1 votes

I'm just watching all this from the sidelines and am grateful that my favorite champion already belongs to a faction that probably won't be seeing too much change any time soon.

Shyvana is love, GarenFiora JarvanIVSona Lux Vayne XinZhao Poppy Galio Quinn are life.

Whitakker10/7/2014, 3:11:14 PM1 votes

Hands off my Lunar Goddess, Rito.

But srsly, I think the only thing that needs to be done to Mt. Targon/Rakkor/Solari/Lunari is add a few more champions. I'm cool with Alistar and Malphite being placed there.

It'll definitely place Diana and Leona front and center, to be sure. Heck, Riot might do another "faction" event like they did with the Freljord. Join the Solari or Lunari. It'd be fun. Then everyone could witness the glory that is Diana!