Don't screw your ADC... please...

UncaringNonchala·8/12/2017, 12:26:41 PM·3 votes·932 views

So I just had a game with an Annie support. Everyone dies bot lane pretty early, killing each other. We both get red wards, place them in tri and river bushes.

I'm farming, in a bad spot to defend a ward in river, they kill one.

"If you don't respond to me then I'm taking your farm," says Annie.

I come back with, "You didn't even say anything???"

"They're taking our wards and you're just sitting there."

(Not only was I in a bad spot to try and stop them, I was underleveled, as their Lucian had gotten back to lane first.)

She proceeds to start burning spells and everything on farm. I ask her to not screw me over like that, she tries to fight them, I've got nothing to help with, she dies. I let her know that if she takes my farm, I'm not helping if she wants to fight... because I can't. It's pretty simple... an ADC is going to be useless without any farm, and especially if the support leaves lane... which she did. So I mute her as to try and focus on the game and get away from any further aggression from her.

She goes top to support Kayn, fine, whatever. Lucian and Trynd (Trynd supp, lol) stayed bot. They get first turret, I try my best to stay back and grab what little farm I can.

Now, this leads to an interesting situation... not only does my support leave me, but then since I'm underleveled and underfarmed, but the rest of my team starts to get angry with me due to not roaming out of lane more and helping with teamfights... but how am I supposed to when I won't be able to do any damage because I've had restrictions in the laning phase? So, of course, I try to help, and am met with, "you do no damage." Well then let me farm up so I can do damage... but no, people seem to tilt so hard because they can't stay safe and let the ADC catch up. I see this in so many games anymore, not only when I'm playing ADC, but with any other that ends up behind from one way or another.

Just keep in mind that an ADC[arry] can't be that when put behind.

Be respectful, don't tilt teammates, and just focus on teamwork in a team game, guys.

Good luck out there.

7 Comments

AmetDeCrypt8/12/2017, 2:38:13 PM1 votes

butt muh threads about how adc are all whining about everything and nothing.

STEG08/13/2017, 2:59:57 PM1 votes

ADC definitely can get put into a report checkmate. If your SUP starts taking CS or shoving lane which happens quite often there's really nothing you can do to stop it. I find asking them to let you have the CS doesn't ever work. Generally it works out really bad because the SUP isn't last hitting just shoving and it messes up the timing so the adc can't reliably snipe last hits either.

At some point Yi will show up and Q you on tower then auto once and you will die and your tower is gone, at this point you'll prob see "/all report our bot for feed.". Second you can either farm or team fight but like you said either way gets you "reported" in one of two paths:

  1. If you try to farm your team decides to constantly fight without you and then flames and reports you for "afk farming", or "This ADC is just sitting in the jungle farming", "/all OUR ADc refuses to group, please report"

  2. If you try to fight without cs like you said you get flamed/reported for "Doing no damage" or "Not even autoattacking" "Useless ADC" "I wish we had an ADC" You ~do, do almost no damage especially vs tanks and most can one shot you so if you go you'll contribute little and most likely die.

There's nothing you can do to stop this situation if it happens and the only thing you have to feel better about this is the fact that it will also happen to the opponents sometimes so you'll have an easier win chance perhaps in the future. It usually is someone being upset that they got auto filled support.

When this happens to me I first tell my team I am muting chat so they don't expect a reply since the entire thing is going to be flaming and report threatening me. After that I do nothing but farm as hard and fast as I can but I take extra caution to never die while doing this. I catch any lane with CS I can shove and do all jungle camps except BLUE trying to get to a point where I'm even higher than the opponent ADC, (like 50 cs over) (also solo dragon whenever I can count all threats elsewhere.) Consider altering the order here that you purchase your full build prioritizing speed clearing first.

Taking all the cs makes your team mates group up for objectives since there's nothing else to do. You might get a loss but chances of that were high already since SUP messed up bot lane. Sometimes in this case the team realizes they are in a 4v5 and starts playing safer. The enemy team will think you're the laughing stock of the game and not take you seriously and you can unload 6 item and elixir on them at 40 minutes just before your nexus duo-towers fall and take the whole opponent team down in an epic ace while they are being sloppy trying to end it. While this is going down I take note of anyone that verbally crosses the line in their discontent with me for farming and report them after the game. After you multi kill wipe the enemy team your team will perceive you as good suddenly and start flaming the Support instead of you. The Support will have a toxicity meltdown and start swearing and making death threats usually and you can nail them with a report for sure.

Your hardcore farming will also take 1 or 2 members of the opponents to constantly police you, pantheons will be raining from the sky whenever you shove a lane, Ahris will be coming out of jungle bushes, minions all around you will get TPs on them (just blow all summons and blast cone out of there). Even though your team might be upset that they are in a 4v5 you're technically occupying the enemy team's farm police that are kill thirsty. I try to shove to about the river then duck into the jungle some and farm there and repeat and it does add some slight pressure forcing opponents to respond to grab the cs you pushed. Your team will be in a 4v3 actually a lot of the time and have easy picks since the opponent will make cheeky high risk jungle ganks on you because you look so tempting.

This is best done on Jinx or ashe so you can ulti every team fight while you are farming. You'll get an S+ also and a mastery token after the game regardless if you win or lose. If you are on Jhin at any point where you got a sec and you know the enemy has vision on you: Spam CTR 4 (really fast) for some serious disrespect (since that's the best disrespect key spam of any lol character). Any enemy that sees the disrespecting will become farm police and will spend the rest of the game consumed with trying to catch you farming.

AtlasMinor8/14/2017, 5:41:43 AM1 votes

As much as i would love to criticize early ward game , i wont have to if you just realized your still stuck at the first tower and could easy buy 1-2 control wards , next time there wards are up, let them drop them, Push to second tower , Drop control ward and ward enemy jungle all the way to there gate.

I only had to read the first 3 sentences of your first paragraph to see the solution which im guessing turned into a toxic situation and someone Jumped Lane,... im not readin any further than that, looks long drawn out and visually toxic.