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RageOnNoobs

Jul 1, 1:33 PM PDT

Chat started: 2018-07-01 08:08 PM UTC

(08:08:21 PM) RageOnNoobs: Ive been banned for feeding but clearly i wasnt. Everyone has bad games. (08:09:53 PM) Player Support Bot: Hey! We’re getting a ton of new chats right now. It may take upwards of 30 minutes to get to your chat, but if you sit tight we’ll help you out as soon as we can. If you’re not about that waiting in line lifestyle, you can always submit a ticket instead! (08:14:36 PM) *** Cammy White joined the chat *** (08:14:52 PM) Cammy White: Whats up (08:15:02 PM) RageOnNoobs: Ive been banned for inting (08:15:09 PM) RageOnNoobs: which i dont understand why (08:16:01 PM) Cammy White: Let me pull up your account and give it a review real quick, gotta be upfront with you on this though that normally we do not alter penalties on accounts for stuff like this, but let me give it a second look (08:16:16 PM) RageOnNoobs: ok (08:19:40 PM) Cammy White: so it looks like from what you were saying in the game that this seems to be in reaction to getting a champ banned and that you were feeding because of this. what was going on in the game that made you react like that ? (08:19:51 PM) RageOnNoobs: no (08:19:54 PM) RageOnNoobs: i was playing top lane (08:19:58 PM) RageOnNoobs: that was my roll (08:20:04 PM) RageOnNoobs: i tried to win the game (08:20:29 PM) RageOnNoobs: Having a bad game does not equate to intentional feeding (08:20:42 PM) RageOnNoobs: Look at my item build (08:20:52 PM) RageOnNoobs: Look at my team participation (08:22:26 PM) Cammy White: I can see that but from what I am noticing this does look like you were intentionally feeding in this game. I cannot get into the details of what we are notcing during the game. Basically how it works is that if I were to let you know what was found then the players who are trolling or intentionally feeding would just move on to another way of trolling and we would always be one step behind them. that make sense to you ? (08:22:54 PM) RageOnNoobs: Ive played this game for years and i dont understand. How was i intentinonally feeding (08:23:45 PM) RageOnNoobs: I want a reason to why as to why i was banned not because of what someone else thinks i was doing (08:24:01 PM) RageOnNoobs: Everyone has bad games. This is a 1 game ban (08:24:08 PM) RageOnNoobs: I got reported in 1 incident (08:24:16 PM) RageOnNoobs: And ive been banned and lost my honor (08:24:44 PM) Cammy White: Well I wish I could tell you but I cannot get into specifcs of what we noticed during the game, but this is clearly intentional feeding and we will have to keep it in place. (08:24:59 PM) RageOnNoobs: Do you actually play this game? (08:25:21 PM) RageOnNoobs: Because i want to know as to why im banned and youre giving me no answers (08:25:41 PM) RageOnNoobs: You cant give me specifics because you dont even know what i did wrong (08:25:58 PM) RageOnNoobs: Thats why im mad. What did i do wrong? (08:26:09 PM) RageOnNoobs: Did i run it down mid? (08:26:12 PM) RageOnNoobs: What did i do? (08:26:29 PM) RageOnNoobs: Is there a manger i can talk to (08:27:11 PM) RageOnNoobs: I just dont like getting banned for no reason. (08:27:13 PM) Cammy White: I already explained our stance on Intentional feeding and I know this is not what you wanted to hear, but we cannot get into details with you on how we noticed this, from what I explained prior (08:27:28 PM) RageOnNoobs: Then explain to me what did i do that was intentional (08:27:42 PM) RageOnNoobs: Do i report everyone for intentinally feeding? (08:27:48 PM) RageOnNoobs: No (08:27:53 PM) RageOnNoobs: Everyone has bad games (08:27:59 PM) RageOnNoobs: What dont you understand (08:28:14 PM) RageOnNoobs: The logic (08:28:26 PM) RageOnNoobs: Banning someone for no reason (08:28:50 PM) RageOnNoobs: Do you actually watch the replay when you ban somoene? (08:29:01 PM) RageOnNoobs: Or do you take someones word for it and just ban them (08:29:21 PM) Cammy White: I wish I could get into this with you but again I cannot discuss what was found, I know that this is frustrating but there is not much else I could tell you beyond that we did notice and confirmed that you were involved in Intentional feeding (08:29:34 PM) RageOnNoobs: How so (08:29:37 PM) RageOnNoobs: Explain please (08:29:58 PM) RageOnNoobs: Youre just telling me that i was intentionally feeding yet you cant come up with an answer (08:30:55 PM) RageOnNoobs: Is there someone i can talk to (08:31:00 PM) RageOnNoobs: I need to resolve this issue (08:31:14 PM) RageOnNoobs: Is there a manager i can speak with (08:32:05 PM) Cammy White: You have reached the highest point of escalation and even if you were to speak with another agent they would tell you the same thing. Since we have gone over this several times I will have to close this chat to help other players, was there anything else you needed before I go ? (08:32:22 PM) RageOnNoobs: No i need to resolve this (08:32:30 PM) RageOnNoobs: You are banning innocent players (08:32:40 PM) RageOnNoobs: If you go i will post this on reddit (08:33:08 PM) RageOnNoobs: i want reason with actual facts (08:33:09 PM) *** Cammy White left the chat ***

14 Comments

AeroWaffle7 votes

Watched the replay (as anyone can do for ranked games within 20 games), and I'm pretty sure I can see the point where it would trigger the system.

At around 6min you go from the enemy jungle to die to the mid tier 1 tower from max health, making no effort to get out of tower range (in fact, it looks like you intentionally stayed in tower range).

Immediately after that death, instead of going back up to top you go back to mid and towerdive Leblanc that was two levels higher than you. Dying in the process from max health. You continue to return to mid yet again and die to the Nami under the same tower (but I found this one to be less suspicious).

Edit: And based on this statement from your conversation with your other live support;

(09:25:50 PM) Raz: you tried but you definitley knew what you were doing here and your comments at the end of the game contribute to this

You made some comments at the end of the game that also contributed to the decision.

Totalwanabe3 votes

we don't care about replay you probably stated you were gonna grief in some way in which is what they are using again you learn to not be a hothead twice the same thread just to get more sympathy won't work here and you clearly deserve the punishmetn if you had a game has panth with 6 doran shield.

RageOnNoobs1 votes

Didnt have 6 doran sheilds. Check match before talking

Ryvaku3 votes

Also you died 4 times before 10mins once to Mundo, Twice to Leblanc and once to Nami. Running it down?

MagicFlyingLlama2 votes

They cant, providing evidence of ban methodology makes it easier to avoid detection. Same reason that scripting bans have to come in waves instead of immediate.

What was the game you got banned for? I may be able to analyze it and get some ideas.

That said, being banned for feeding never happens in just one game and is extremely rare, they wont do it without very clear evidence - and i dont see any bad games in your recent history - is this even the right account?

Imperial Pandaa1 votes

Based on the link, it is a Pantheon game. Looking at it immediately doesn't raise any flags.

There is a Kled game where he has 6 Doran shields for 2 minutes before the match ends. So I'm thinking wrong evidence as what seems to be happening with the chats recently.

Eternal Torment1 votes

For Intentionally inting, saying you cannot provide evidence because you suspect people learning from it is audaciously stupid because every form, sneaky or obvious, form of trolling is already public knowledge for years. from obvious ways like running it down the really difficult to detect ones like spamming your skills as support so you have no mana and are forced to retreat, leaving your adc to die.

A very practical example that fits this "no evidence" situation: You go to a library and want to read a book, but the librarian tells you you cant. And they really think you won't just go to another library or ask the people who already read said book for the content? thats either ridiculous naivete or audacious stupidity. My bet lies on latter, since Riot supposedly only has mature adults working so dilly dally hoping isnt a thing there.

MagicFlyingLlama2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Eternal Torment,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=z5Fl4h4N,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2018-07-01T22:09:22.997+0000)

For Intentionally inting, saying you cannot provide evidence because you suspect people learning from it is audaciously stupid because every form, sneaky or obvious, form of trolling is already public knowledge for years. from obvious ways like running it down the really difficult to detect ones like spamming your skills as support so you have no mana and are forced to retreat, leaving your adc to die.

Skill accuracy and contribution is already part of grading, to my knowledge. That sort of stuff comes up already.

What is hard to detect is people who just afk farm/split or intentionally make bad choices, but they do try.

hi im Rizzuto2 votes

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=RageOnNoobs+ i am looking at your op.gg , was that the yi game ? cause that make no sence lol

RageOnNoobs1 votes

https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2815348970/35098708?tab=overview

Even1 votes

[{quoted}](name=hi im Rizzuto,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=z5Fl4h4N,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-07-01T21:05:48.058+0000)

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=RageOnNoobs+ i am looking at your op.gg , was that the yi game ? cause that make no sence lol

match history doesnt work right now

DODGEORLOSE2 votes

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=RageOnNoobs uh you did have 6 doran shields it's right there in the match history lol

Aneirin2 votes

At the very end of a different game that's not related to the one in question. If you're gonna witch hunt at least get your facts right first...

Voldymort2 votes

(08:32:40 PM) RageOnNoobs: If you go i will post this on reddit

empty threat is empty. riot doesn't care!

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

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