RIOT; Why is the lower elo brackets less strict about behavioral issues than the professionals?

The Stiffmeister·Jan 5, 2017·2 votes·674 views

RIOT; why are the lower elos having such behavioral problems? Why cant the lower elos be held to the same strict standard as the professionals?? I've been climbing out of bronze, and when i hit b3-b2 i experienced an insane amount of mad players. I've had multiple games where my team was doing really good like up 15+ kills and turret leads, and one of the team members tilts off into oblivion for what seems like no reason. there are so many angry players i don't know how to win a game through all the throwing and negative behavior. I've had multiple games where one person is telling other people how bad they suck before minions spawn. I think riot needs to step in and do something about the negative behavior.

13 Comments

ProudOfMyWienerJan 5, 20173 votes

It's the other way around. Riot is less strict in the upper elos.

julyorchid25Jan 5, 20173 votes

Very much agreed. I just played support in a ranked game as Soraka against an Ezreal (geo69) who was absolutely and completely toxic, even while winning the game. Cursed at people in all chat and acted like absolutely nothing will ever happen to him. I did report him, but it always feels so fruitless to be a kind player, support main, trying everything I can to help my team win, just to run in to people like that on both sides. They completely ruin the game...and it really does feel like Riot does absolutely nothing to stop them, even when they're reported. item 3070

FlahertyJan 5, 20171 votes

It's a lot easier to punish someone that is well known and streams their games to thousands of people than 1 unknown person that needs to be flagged by an imperfect system

The StiffmeisterJan 5, 20171 votes

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It's a lot easier to punish someone that is well known and streams their games to thousands of people than 1 unknown person that needs to be flagged by an imperfect system

I mean thats half my problem i watch streamers they can just play the game for what it is, and it makes me wanna play. But every game i get into a game there's a angry team mate yelling at everyone and you cant just play the game and have fun. the system will never be perfect but it can be a lot better. I mean look at runescape if more than three people report you you get muted very quickly, i just find it hard to believe that riot dosn't have equal to if not more resources to get an advanced system in for people who are toxic to the community. they're putting to much into changing the game, and not enough in to regulating the communities issues.

Magical PlayerJan 5, 20171 votes

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I mean thats half my problem i watch streamers they can just play the game for what it is, and it makes me wanna play. But every game i get into a game there's a angry team mate yelling at everyone and you cant just play the game and have fun. the system will never be perfect but it can be a lot better. I mean look at runescape if more than three people report you you get muted very quickly, i just find it hard to believe that riot dosn't have equal to if not more resources to get an advanced system in for people who are toxic to the community. they're putting to much into changing the game, and not enough in to regulating the communities issues.

Difference between MMO and MOBA

what issues? Fix toxicity---- impossible you may curve the usage of words, but nothing changes people Also nobody is yelling at you, they're merely typing. You take that as yelling, which means your the one being offended by it Want to fix a game to where nobody offends nobody. Bot games, enjoy

The StiffmeisterJan 6, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Magical Player,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=yt8trQaR,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-01-05T23:31:09.410+0000)

Difference between MMO and MOBA

what issues? Fix toxicity---- impossible you may curve the usage of words, but nothing changes people Also nobody is yelling at you, they're merely typing. You take that as yelling, which means your the one being offended by it Want to fix a game to where nobody offends nobody. Bot games, enjoy

i would be perfectly fine with the toxicity if it didn't affect my win rate, the problem isnt that it bugs me its the fact that a huge majority of the games im in i get a pretty decent lead and then teammates will argue with each other and im the only one playing, everyone else is typing i try my best to go on with the game split pushing grouping doing everything i can end the game but no one will do what we need to win because their too busy arguing. Im lost on what else i can do.

The StiffmeisterJan 6, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Magical Player,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=yt8trQaR,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-01-05T23:31:09.410+0000)

Difference between MMO and MOBA

what issues? Fix toxicity---- impossible you may curve the usage of words, but nothing changes people Also nobody is yelling at you, they're merely typing. You take that as yelling, which means your the one being offended by it Want to fix a game to where nobody offends nobody. Bot games, enjoy

i mean honestly my real problem is the fact im getting drug down because of their issues. im very level headed other players never get under my skin. It just bugs me that i have to go through my promos 3 times to get demoted after i win them and fail them two more times (literally my life right now lol) hopefully ill win my next set. item 3082 [zombie-brand-facepalm]

BlueBilberryJan 6, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Magical Player,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=yt8trQaR,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-01-05T23:31:09.410+0000)

Difference between MMO and MOBA

what issues? Fix toxicity---- impossible you may curve the usage of words, but nothing changes people Also nobody is yelling at you, they're merely typing. You take that as yelling, which means your the one being offended by it Want to fix a game to where nobody offends nobody. Bot games, enjoy

It's possible to promote good behaviour - and make it harder for bad behaviour to have a negative influence (hint: OW's "GG EZ" or clear and visible rewards for good citizens). But for that, Riot needs to start thinking of the long term life of this game - and that has not seemed to really have been a priority lately.

Magical PlayerJan 7, 20171 votes

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It's possible to promote good behaviour - and make it harder for bad behaviour to have a negative influence (hint: OW's "GG EZ" or clear and visible rewards for good citizens). But for that, Riot needs to start thinking of the long term life of this game - and that has not seemed to really have been a priority lately.

GG EZ is worse now because overwatch did that. Simply changing the Phrase doesn't make it any less apparent what was said. Only by removing it would the issue go away. Blizzard is a the best company, I have no problems with gg ez. Its just become a fun statement, nothing changed from saying gg ez to a losing team to blizzard auto correcting ggez to a fun statement. It's still read as ggez.

Riot is keeping this game alive, they're focused on long term goals. Season 1-3 were short term goals Massive hero building. Shit it took me longer to earn ip needed to buy new heros than it took for riot to produce new heros Now Riot does 4 heros a year and lots of balancing and changes

To say riot gives no shits about the long term is bull. You've appear to be a new player. Ofc the game looks like this, you have a limited scope of the progress over the years. We already have rewards for being a "good citizen" being a dick removes season rewards, stops loot boxxes, and suspensions and bans So no we do not need to reward people for being decent, if anything add to the removal of punishments by removing purchased skins for limited time(or until not a dick)

Magical PlayerJan 5, 20171 votes

Punish 80% of the community... great business model

nobody reports or everybody reports to much if you're reporting every game againist everyone your report matters less than someone who reports once every 20 games

The StiffmeisterJan 5, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Magical Player,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=yt8trQaR,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-01-05T19:27:35.900+0000)

Punish 80% of the community... great business model

nobody reports or everybody reports to much if you're reporting every game against everyone your report matters less than someone who reports once every 20 games

I mean thats half the point "80%" its ridiculous they dint need to ban them all just make the system a lot tighter, i mean look at the afk system you dont dare leave a queue or afk from a game if you can help it because people are scared. there just needs to be a repercussion for there actions. maybe like if they get reported for being toxic to often give them a ban from ranked till there behavior improves i just feel like the system is too loose.

RequiemsfireJan 5, 20171 votes

When you want to create a good community you start with the people you look up to.

BlueBilberryJan 6, 20171 votes

The behaviour issues are appearing because you have a lot of players right now who are at tiers, which - well - they don't think they deserve to be in. It's not just the lower tiers - but it's also happening with some of the higher-tier players I've been running across too. It's as if they have to remind themselves that they are that one tier higher by putting down lower tiered players. (The curse of the Season 7 reboot in ranked.) Heck, consider the Nb3-QT fiasco.

I fear that the toxicity will continue for a while to come... [zombie-nunu-bummed]