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Talking In League of Legends is a Crime

not brna··5 votes·849 views

Game 1 Best Ekko NA: pantheon flash Best Ekko NA: ignite Best Ekko NA: im so raging man Best Ekko NA: done with top Best Ekko NA: not going back Best Ekko NA: jungler doesn't want to help Best Ekko NA: then so be it Best Ekko NA: patheon can carry Best Ekko NA: the game for them Best Ekko NA: I'll let him Best Ekko NA: clearly reksai loves losing Best Ekko NA: so he can lose Best Ekko NA: no Best Ekko NA: nope Best Ekko NA: im letting reksai Best Ekko NA: lose the game Best Ekko NA: since he doesn't like being useful Best Ekko NA: im not even afk Best Ekko NA: i don't care who it's on Best Ekko NA: clearly im not important Best Ekko NA: since reksai decided that he wasn't helping me Best Ekko NA: I haven't even done anything wrong btw Best Ekko NA: they are just raging because I haven't done anything to help them Best Ekko NA: how would I get mad? Best Ekko NA: pantheon is ekko's biggest counter Best Ekko NA: enjoy your loss report away Best Ekko NA: I've done nothing wrong Best Ekko NA: then win it Best Ekko NA: if u were capable of carrying this game Best Ekko NA: you would win without me doing much of anything Best Ekko NA: which is the point Best Ekko NA: you need me Best Ekko NA: and yet, you didn't help me Best Ekko NA: now whose fault is that? Best Ekko NA: because u guys wouldn't help me Best Ekko NA: u essentially said that u don't need me Best Ekko NA: btw I haven't anything wrong, u tilted yourself Best Ekko NA: pantheon isn't even carrying the game Best Ekko NA: u are blaming me the entire game Best Ekko NA: saying everything is my fault Best Ekko NA: I didn't even AFK Best Ekko NA: I went bot Best Ekko NA: l o l

Game 2 Best Ekko NA: care Best Ekko NA: if u want to win Best Ekko NA: ward my jungle Best Ekko NA: or we lost Best Ekko NA: instantly Best Ekko NA: lol Best Ekko NA: omg Best Ekko NA: are u fucking Best Ekko NA: kidding me Best Ekko NA: u can't even check the bush Best Ekko NA: their team is always Best Ekko NA: in my jungle Best Ekko NA: 100% of the time Best Ekko NA: lane is over Best Ekko NA: which u don't understand Best Ekko NA: that is why we lose Best Ekko NA: this game Best Ekko NA: she won't carry Best Ekko NA: against them Best Ekko NA: they are too fed Best Ekko NA: and getting more fed Best Ekko NA: just ff Best Ekko NA: our top is so bad Best Ekko NA: there is no saving this game Best Ekko NA: it's over Best Ekko NA: trust me Best Ekko NA: Because he never helped Best Ekko NA: or warded my jungle Best Ekko NA: that level 1 trade where he ran at me taking red Best Ekko NA: said it all about how bad he is Best Ekko NA: I can play whatever I want Best Ekko NA: wards don't give someone map awareness Best Ekko NA: he wasn't helping Best Ekko NA: is what I said Best Ekko NA: now shut up Best Ekko NA: rager

Getting punished for what again? Oh right, because a bunch of raging players reported me. What a fantastic system.

29 Comments

Jamaree10 votes

You don't actually want discussion, you don't see what is wrong, you are just here to rant and have people who were also fairly banned rally on your side, so what was the point of this post?

not brna8 votes

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You don't actually want discussion, you don't see what is wrong, you are just here to rant and have people who were also fairly banned rally on your side, so what was the point of this post?

What is there to discuss? I didn't get banned. There's not even rage in these chat logs, little to nothing even wrong except one single bad word which wasn't even aimed at a player.

I don't usually talk too much in games, which is why they can't even come up with a 3rd chat log.

There's a lot to discuss here, because the system clearly reacted based upon the people who were raging and at fault reporting me.

Jamaree6 votes

[{quoted}](name=Best Ekko NA,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-10-23T05:27:00.488+0000)

What is there to discuss? I didn't get banned. There's not even rage in these chat logs, little to nothing even wrong except one single bad word which wasn't even aimed at a player.

I don't usually talk too much in games, which is why they can't even come up with a 3rd chat log.

There's a lot to discuss here, because the system clearly reacted based upon the people who were raging and at fault reporting me.

Best Ekko NA: im so raging man Best Ekko NA: done with top Best Ekko NA: not going back Best Ekko NA: jungler doesn't want to help Best Ekko NA: then so be it

Best Ekko NA: clearly reksai loves losing Best Ekko NA: so he can lose Best Ekko NA: no Best Ekko NA: nope Best Ekko NA: im letting reksai Best Ekko NA: lose the game Best Ekko NA: since he doesn't like being useful

Best Ekko NA: pantheon is ekko's biggest counter Best Ekko NA: enjoy your loss report away Best Ekko NA: I've done nothing wrong Best Ekko NA: then win it Best Ekko NA: if u were capable of carrying this game Best Ekko NA: you would win without me doing much of anything Best Ekko NA: which is the point Best Ekko NA: you need me Best Ekko NA: and yet, you didn't help me Best Ekko NA: now whose fault is that? Best Ekko NA: because u guys wouldn't help me Best Ekko NA: u essentially said that u don't need me Best Ekko NA: btw I haven't anything wrong, u tilted yourself

Best Ekko NA: just ff Best Ekko NA: our top is so bad Best Ekko NA: there is no saving this game Best Ekko NA: it's over Best Ekko NA: trust me

You make remarks about how raging allies reported you, yet make passive aggressive ones like this like it is better? I get it, people aren't always amazing, people fuck up, no one likes have their lane thrown or not getting help, but what is the point of enticing your allies to flame you? To berate them like this. Saying I need help is one thing, but basically implying you aren't going to play the game if they don't help you is not ok, what isn't clear about that?

not brna2 votes

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Best Ekko NA: im so raging man Best Ekko NA: done with top Best Ekko NA: not going back Best Ekko NA: jungler doesn't want to help Best Ekko NA: then so be it

Best Ekko NA: clearly reksai loves losing Best Ekko NA: so he can lose Best Ekko NA: no Best Ekko NA: nope Best Ekko NA: im letting reksai Best Ekko NA: lose the game Best Ekko NA: since he doesn't like being useful

Best Ekko NA: pantheon is ekko's biggest counter Best Ekko NA: enjoy your loss report away Best Ekko NA: I've done nothing wrong Best Ekko NA: then win it Best Ekko NA: if u were capable of carrying this game Best Ekko NA: you would win without me doing much of anything Best Ekko NA: which is the point Best Ekko NA: you need me Best Ekko NA: and yet, you didn't help me Best Ekko NA: now whose fault is that? Best Ekko NA: because u guys wouldn't help me Best Ekko NA: u essentially said that u don't need me Best Ekko NA: btw I haven't anything wrong, u tilted yourself

Best Ekko NA: just ff Best Ekko NA: our top is so bad Best Ekko NA: there is no saving this game Best Ekko NA: it's over Best Ekko NA: trust me

You make remarks about how raging allies reported you, yet make passive aggressive ones like this like it is better? I get it, people aren't always amazing, people fuck up, no one likes have their lane thrown or not getting help, but what is the point of enticing your allies to flame you? To berate them like this. Saying I need help is one thing, but basically implying you aren't going to play the game if they don't help you is not ok, what isn't clear about that?

Passive aggressive remarks are just that. Are they better? Probably not. How else do you respond? Mute them? Say nothing? I wasn't flaming anyone in my games. In the first game, I was far far far behind after getting destroyed by Pantheon. Our Jungler did nothing to help, even when I was right in front of him several times he'd turn and go the other direction intentionally, leaving me to die. I went Bot after realizing how hopeless it was to stay in my lane, then got accused of being AFK. I tried to be productive, however Bot did not like that I was down there. My statements about losing are simply implying the reality behind the Junglers decision, there isn't even anything "toxic" or unsportsmanlike about them. Team later tried forking me, like it was my fault that we were losing.

That second game, was a curb stomp. The enemy team sat around invading my Jungle over and over again. No one followed their lanes, no one warded anywhere. Our Malphite was doing some really weird things, dying quite a lot, and usually never grouped with the team. At level 1, I was taking the other team's red, Malphite ran his laner right into me taking the red buff. Trust me, I wanted out of that game. What else can you say to try to get your team to surrender?

Jamaree4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Best Ekko NA,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-23T05:53:38.674+0000)

Passive aggressive remarks are just that. Are they better? Probably not. How else do you respond? Mute them? Say nothing?

Honestly, yes, if the things you say aren't just you being pissed at your allies, just mute ignore and move on, what do you get out of saying anything to them?

I wasn't flaming anyone in my games.

Best Ekko NA: clearly reksai loves losing Best Ekko NA: so he can lose Best Ekko NA: no Best Ekko NA: nope Best Ekko NA: im letting reksai Best Ekko NA: lose the game Best Ekko NA: since he doesn't like being useful

How is this not flaming?

In the first game, I was far far far behind after getting destroyed by Pantheon. Our Jungler did nothing to help, even when I was right in front of him several times he'd turn and go the other direction intentionally, leaving me to die.

Your jungler was 10/7/12, maybe they honestly believed that there was no point helping you and decided to snowball other lanes.

I went Bot after realizing how hopeless it was to stay in my lane, then got accused of being AFK. I tried to be productive, however Bot did not like that I was down there.

Your score tells another story.

My statements about losing are simply implying the reality behind the Junglers decision, there isn't even anything "toxic" or unsportsmanlike about them. Team later tried forking me, like it was my fault that we were losing.

You let your lane free farm and do as he pleased likely roaming while you typed and didn't really do anything to help the team. I also repeat, how is saying that the loss will be Rek Sai's fault, unsportsmanlike, how is blaming one person for a loss, unsportsmanlike?

That second game, was a curb stomp. The enemy team sat around invading my Jungle over and over again. No one followed their lanes, no one warded anywhere. Our Malphite was doing some really weird things, dying quite a lot, and usually never grouped with the team. At level 1, I was taking the other team's red, Malphite ran his laner right into me taking the red buff. Trust me, I wanted out of that game. What else can you say to try to get your team to surrender?

Not say anything, and not try to get your team to surrender. Riot doesn't want people just giving up nor want people just afking or insulting people.

not brna1 votes

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Honestly, yes, if the things you say aren't just you being pissed at your allies, just mute ignore and move on, what do you get out of saying anything to them?

Best Ekko NA: clearly reksai loves losing Best Ekko NA: so he can lose Best Ekko NA: no Best Ekko NA: nope Best Ekko NA: im letting reksai Best Ekko NA: lose the game Best Ekko NA: since he doesn't like being useful

How is this not flaming?

Your jungler was 10/7/12, maybe they honestly believed that there was no point helping you and decided to snowball other lanes.

Your score tells another story.

You let your lane free farm and do as he pleased likely roaming while you typed and didn't really do anything to help the team. I also repeat, how is saying that the loss will be Rek Sai's fault, unsportsmanlike, how is blaming one person for a loss, unsportsmanlike?

Not say anything, and not try to get your team to surrender. Riot doesn't want people just giving up nor want people just afking or insulting people.

1. What do you get out of saying anything to them?

Good point. Brings me back to the title, it's a crime to chat in this game. You get nothing.

2. How is this not flaming?

There wasn't anything inappropriate said there, even more so when you see his score. The game was his to win, and his to lose. He felt like helping me was not the correct choice, and I thought otherwise. There isn't anything flaming about that.

3. Your score tells another story.

Nearly every single death I had in the game, was from Zed using his ultimate on me. I died once or twice to Pantheon, and every other time was a death related to Zed's massive damage hitting me in the face. I did try to help my team, however I was under farmed and didn't have items to be able to accomplish anything useful.

4. You let your laner free farm.

What do you want me to do, keep dying to him and feed him instead? He had more than enough damage to tower dive me, as well as a Jungler who would visit top side, contrasting to my own who won't even look at top lane. If he wants to free farm, he's going to free farm. There isn't anything I'm capable of doing to stop him as an under-leveled champion that he counters.

5. Not say anything, not try to get your team to surrender.

Sure, as soon as they remove the option to surrender I'll take you right up on that one.

Jamaree4 votes

[{quoted}](name=Best Ekko NA,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-10-23T06:31:27.543+0000)

1. What do you get out of saying anything to them?

Good point. Brings me back to the title, it's a crime to chat in this game. You get nothing.

That is not how it works at all. You are free to say whatever you want in chat as long as you don't point it as people, besides the obvious racial and homophobic slurs.

2. How is this not flaming?

There wasn't anything inappropriate said there, even more so when you see his score. The game was his to win, and his to lose. He felt like helping me was not the correct choice, and I thought otherwise. There isn't anything flaming about that.

But what if it was, who are you to say it wasn't. You are the person feeding against a Pantheon to him so he thought to win, snowballing other lanes was the better option. You seem to have a very different definition of flaming. You seem to think that flaming only means when you are cursing at people, what you deem flaming and what Riot and the system does are two different things. You were flaming in the sense you were being hostile to your team, even if cursing wasn't done.

3. Your score tells another story.

Nearly every single death I had in the game, was from Zed using his ultimate on me. I died once or twice to Pantheon, and every other time was a death related to Zed's massive damage hitting me in the face. I did try to help my team, however I was under farmed and didn't have items to be able to accomplish anything useful.

So you instead try and sabotage the rest of your team?

4. You let your laner free farm.

What do you want me to do, keep dying to him and feed him instead? He had more than enough damage to tower dive me, as well as a Jungler who would visit top side, contrasting to my own who won't even look at top lane. If he wants to free farm, he's going to free farm. There isn't anything I'm capable of doing to stop him as an under-leveled champion that he counters.

So then how is punishing the rest of your team a good idea then, at that point, what you should have done is given up the tower, then kept pushing when you can, not just forgo the lane, blame your jungler for not carrying you, then not doing anything besides passing the blame on others.

Even then, beyond that, even if there was nothing you could do, why then at that point would you say things like it is my jungler's fault, do you know that ganking a losing lane isn't the best idea at all times? If they are so far behind it doesn't matter, ganking that lane is just a waste of time as opposed to helping other lanes.

not brna2 votes

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Best Ekko NA: im so raging man Best Ekko NA: done with top Best Ekko NA: not going back Best Ekko NA: jungler doesn't want to help Best Ekko NA: then so be it

Best Ekko NA: clearly reksai loves losing Best Ekko NA: so he can lose Best Ekko NA: no Best Ekko NA: nope Best Ekko NA: im letting reksai Best Ekko NA: lose the game Best Ekko NA: since he doesn't like being useful

Best Ekko NA: pantheon is ekko's biggest counter Best Ekko NA: enjoy your loss report away Best Ekko NA: I've done nothing wrong Best Ekko NA: then win it Best Ekko NA: if u were capable of carrying this game Best Ekko NA: you would win without me doing much of anything Best Ekko NA: which is the point Best Ekko NA: you need me Best Ekko NA: and yet, you didn't help me Best Ekko NA: now whose fault is that? Best Ekko NA: because u guys wouldn't help me Best Ekko NA: u essentially said that u don't need me Best Ekko NA: btw I haven't anything wrong, u tilted yourself

Best Ekko NA: just ff Best Ekko NA: our top is so bad Best Ekko NA: there is no saving this game Best Ekko NA: it's over Best Ekko NA: trust me

You make remarks about how raging allies reported you, yet make passive aggressive ones like this like it is better? I get it, people aren't always amazing, people fuck up, no one likes have their lane thrown or not getting help, but what is the point of enticing your allies to flame you? To berate them like this. Saying I need help is one thing, but basically implying you aren't going to play the game if they don't help you is not ok, what isn't clear about that?

Let's put it this way, on a scale of 1-10, how bad are these two logs? I didn't sit there calling everyone retards and idiots like I see other people doing on a daily basis in this game. The fact is, even if I was slightly out of line with my aggression, there's only two games and they are very minuscule.

If this is punishable, there should be far more people permanently banned in this game.

Xidphel2 votes

People are able to show restraint. Muting helps.

As for the scale, 8. Good enough so that consistent use gets you punished.

not brna2 votes

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People are able to show restraint. Muting helps.

As for the scale, 8. Good enough so that consistent use gets you punished.

If that's an 8, Riot needs to ban every person I've played with on this account for like the last 30+ games.

Xidphel2 votes

No. Just punish.

Jamaree1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Best Ekko NA,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2017-10-23T06:02:42.793+0000)

Let's put it this way, on a scale of 1-10, how bad are these two logs? I didn't sit there calling everyone retards and idiots like I see other people doing on a daily basis in this game. The fact is, even if I was slightly out of line with my aggression, there's only two games and they are very minuscule.

If this is punishable, there should be far more people permanently banned in this game.

Not bad enough on their own to be anymore then a warning, but with how the system works, you build up to the point of getting in trouble. One game worth of flaming, raging, trolling, etc, doesn't get you in trouble, everyone tilts, everyone, including me, knowing that, you have to build up to get banned or restricted, or whatever which is what this is here.

Best Ekko NA1 votes

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Not bad enough on their own to be anymore then a warning, but with how the system works, you build up to the point of getting in trouble. One game worth of flaming, raging, trolling, etc, doesn't get you in trouble, everyone tilts, everyone, including me, knowing that, you have to build up to get banned or restricted, or whatever which is what this is here.

That's 2 games. If they HAD another game, it literally would be here. Which they do not. So no, your point is inaccurate. All it takes is 2 games.

Probably takes a lot to get banned, but not a lot to get chat restricted.

Jamaree1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Poptart Riven,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xxbB3cyX,comment-id=000000000000000100010000,timestamp=2017-10-23T06:42:55.803+0000)

That's 2 games. If they HAD another game, it literally would be here. Which they do not. So no, your point is inaccurate. All it takes is 2 games.

False, people have been permabanned and only shown one game, the amount of games it shows isn't relevant, it is when you reach a threshold that you get punished.

Probably takes a lot to get banned, but not a lot to get chat restricted.

Relative to getting banned yeah it takes a lot, but it also takes a fair bit to even get chat restricted, you have to get a fairly large amount of reports to hit that threshold.

Enderkk2 votes

Lul "not even rage in these chat logs" lul. Typical NA player. the "gg report team" kinda dude. I respect you lul.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

not brna1 votes

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Lul "not even rage in these chat logs" lul. Typical NA player. the "gg report team" kinda dude. I respect you lul.

[slayer-jinx-wink]

I rarely report anyone, I don't even care honestly. I leave the end game screen immediately then move on to the next game unless I see something which I consider to be inappropriate such as threats or racism. I barely even chat in game, which is part of the point behind this post. I was honor level 3, semi flaming behavior in 2 games, and instantly chat restricted. Supposedly, the system won't punish you without consistent poor behavior, so where is it? If someone from Riot wants to step up and say that 2 games is "consistent unsportsmanlike conduct", then I'll accept it. I do not consistently portray this behavior however and 2 off-games really shouldn't have been triggering the system to give me a chat restriction.

Also, to all the hate I see in this post... all I have for you is this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jvp5z4z2biw

Enderkk1 votes

I`m not lying lol. I "gg report team" doesn't mean you report, it means you blame everything on your team, kinda like what I see up there. "lying" I respect your flame m8.

Hope you feel better later buddy.

GL HF on rift.

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

General Esdeath 1 votes

Damn, Jamaree laying it down with the truth

Best Ekko NA1 votes

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Damn, Jamaree laying it down with the truth

Looks like just another keyboard white knight tbh. I've seen people say far worse many times. Punishing one person who lost their cool and gave up hope in 2 games really does seem extremist even if they are in the wrong.

General Esdeath 2 votes

Nah fam, I see posts like this every day. Same shit he just described. You're even doing it now.

"I've seen worse"

ok...and? If I murder someone can I say "Yeah but that guy murdered TWO people!" and get away with it? Punishing someone flaming multiple games in a row is good, especially because they're wrong, as you just said.

Best Ekko NA1 votes

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Nah fam, I see posts like this every day. Same shit he just described. You're even doing it now.

"I've seen worse"

ok...and? If I murder someone can I say "Yeah but that guy murdered TWO people!" and get away with it? Punishing someone flaming multiple games in a row is good, especially because they're wrong, as you just said.

And this is the reason you probably don't do sophisticated work in life. All you see are two things "black" and "white" where one person is "wrong" and one person is "right". Sadly, that isn't how life works. Not all "wrongs" are on the same level, and not everything is equally correct. Murder is generally considered an extremely high consequence thing, so to use your example -- you can't compare someone who committed murder to a guy who accidentally scratched someone's car. That's essentially what I'm seeing here, from this guy I referred to as a "keyboard warrior, aka white knight". He's treating this person, who went on tilt for 2 games, like he murdered someone when all he did was accidentally bump into someone's car and scratch it.

There are reasons why there are varying types of crimes and even varying degrees of crimes. There's a reason why Riot has varying levels of punishment in their system. The funny part is, that regardless of what a person says or does, it's treated equally by the majority of people that read these boards and play this game when it really should not be. Jamaree is making this person out to be the most toxic player in League of Legends, when in reality he was just having some bad times and vented on people that he definitely should not have been venting on.

In my opinion, Jamaree is being an instigator simply trying to get a reaction out of the person by nit-picking and blowing things out of proportion.

General Esdeath 2 votes

Who said all wrongs are on the same level? They're different, but they're still both wrongs. Riot punishes both players when they use racial slurs at each other. Should one be forgiven just because the other started? Why not be mature and just mute them? And you missed my point completely in the example; it doesn't matter if "someone did worse" when they've done the same thing but with different numbers. Someone said something more toxic than you? OK...but you still said something toxic.

Jamaree isn't being an instigator, neither is OP.

Best Ekko NA1 votes

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Who said all wrongs are on the same level? They're different, but they're still both wrongs. Riot punishes both players when they use racial slurs at each other. Should one be forgiven just because the other started? Why not be mature and just mute them? And you missed my point completely in the example; it doesn't matter if "someone did worse" when they've done the same thing but with different numbers. Someone said something more toxic than you? OK...but you still said something toxic.

Jamaree isn't being an instigator, neither is OP.

I don't agree with the term "toxic" simply because that's just the generalist statement that people use for "things I don't like". Telling someone to kill themselves, or being racist, is definitely not on the same level as some minor aggression such as telling someone "you're bad". They're not even remotely equal. As a matter of fact, depending on what state you live in... if those two same things were said to someone in public, one could put you in jail and the other would net no consequences whatsoever. There's a massive difference, you can't just call them "toxic". It's not doing the same thing with different numbers, or whatever "chocolate coating" you want to put over it to make it seem like they're both equally wrong.

General Esdeath 2 votes

Not really, toxic is a term meaning "bad, leading to a worsening condition"

If every game of LoL had someone saying "kys" and racial slurs, do you think people would keep playing? They'd probably get annoyed and stop, hence the activity is called toxic.

Now imagine if someone is harassing you all game without saying those things to avoid being punished by the system. Would that not annoy people and make them quit?

And again, they aren't equally wrong, but they're both wrong. Which is why OP probably got a chat ban instead of going straight to a 14 day ban like "kys" will get you.

sanshaoye1 votes

you're laying down the truth, bro. excellent. especially love the keyboard white knight descriptor

Apost3 votes

Sounds like you are just easily giving up the moment something goes wrong.

Also if you can't hold your lane on your own it's not the jungler's job to hold your hand.

Harlus1 votes

u should b PERMA baned this is exTREME toxIN

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