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I don't think this warrants a 14 Day Suspension

Woozy Kitten·11/19/2018, 5:08:19 PM·1 votes·1,387 views

%%% is the offensive word for homo-sexual.

So at the start of the game someone was text singing the bag bag bag song, (Ariana Grande I think), and I parodied it using the word %%%. Okay fine not the best thing to say. But lets break this down a bit. Does simply typing %%% mean instant ban? What about using %%% in terms of cigarettes, would that perhaps warrant a ban? I was not using %%% in the derogatory sense, I was not calling anyone a %%%, I merely typed it because it somewhat (un)-cleverly rhymed with something someone else typed.

As for competitive back and forth regarding the Annie (an Annie main), dude was clearly salty and flaming my top yasuo for being shit (in his opinion). So we all on my team were triggering him, by making outlandish claims saying Annie is op and perma banned in LCS etc etc. So going off an earlier thing about needing to adapt we'd kept a schadenfreude type joke going on about needing to adapt. Whatever. Thoughts on ban? And if you say %%% = instaban please address where you draw the line between intentional toxicity and the use of certain words in a non-intending toxic way. For example, people's races, mexican, black, asian, they could all be said negatively with intent of racism and they could all be used in non-offensive ways. I know many times people have been passive aggressive toxic without actually saying any Key words, taking toxicity far further than playful parody. Though my previous point may seem tangential, my ultimate point questions intention and it's importance in defining what is toxic. Does intent matter when defining toxicity?

Now I understand that deriving intent makes things more difficult. Moreover people could make claims that they had no intent in being toxic, which obviously wouldn't fly in many situations. But my point isn't that intent should be the only factor in defining toxicity, but rather in cases clearly in lacking of confrontation shouldn't intent be weighted at least somewhat? If you agree with my previous statement, and that words themselves shouldn't be the only defining characteristic of what it means to be toxic, then would a 14 fuckin day suspension for one word-not used with any ill intent-not seem a little over the top?

Also in light of the importance of transparency I will mention that I had one other chat restriction (the five game thingy) within the past two seasons, maybe two (probably just one). I really do think this over the top, but maybe I'm wrong. Discuss. (serious replies only please).

Game 1 Pre-Game Woozy Kitten: cleabse tf? In-Game Woozy Kitten: %%% Woozy Kitten: %%% Woozy Kitten: %%% Woozy Kitten: onyou Woozy Kitten: bannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn Woozy Kitten: oh my Woozy Kitten: FLEEEEEEEEEET Woozy Kitten: vs malphitr Woozy Kitten: fak Woozy Kitten: fuck this game Woozy Kitten: kaisa q does too much dmg Woozy Kitten: yea fuck that cow Woozy Kitten: im a girl Woozy Kitten: girl Woozy Kitten: ow Woozy Kitten: hey no summs bot Woozy Kitten: jungler Woozy Kitten: gank bot jungler Woozy Kitten: im not csing well Woozy Kitten: so make up for it by ganking me Woozy Kitten: what hapepend to protecting me Woozy Kitten: hes too fast ok? Woozy Kitten: fuyffj Woozy Kitten: har har Woozy Kitten: u preotected me Woozy Kitten: yea Woozy Kitten: well yea Woozy Kitten: see that r dodge? Woozy Kitten: adapt better Woozy Kitten: kk Woozy Kitten: i ff too Woozy Kitten: see Woozy Kitten: adapting is easy Woozy Kitten: kaisa didnt adapt very well Woozy Kitten: yea dint you get like tons of gnak Woozy Kitten: luyl Woozy Kitten: annie fucking op Woozy Kitten: and easy Woozy Kitten: no skill cap Woozy Kitten: no skill floor Woozy Kitten: werenot good people Woozy Kitten: haha plat annie mains Woozy Kitten: #hardstuck Woozy Kitten: wowow Woozy Kitten: sofar Woozy Kitten: you dfint adapt Post-Game Woozy Kitten: need2adapt beter Woozy Kitten: ZZ Woozy Kitten: gg

14 Comments

ModThe Djinn11/19/2018, 5:13:06 PM10 votes

This deserves a 14-day ban, yes. The word is a zero tolerance word here, meaning that any use (as an insult, in a song, to refer to a cigarette, to call a friend who is okay with it, etc.) is unacceptable and punished equally. It is, ultimately, primarily associated with homophobic hate speech -- so much so that any usage of it must keep that in mind.

If you wanted to parody it, I'm not sure why you wouldn't use any OTHER word that doesn't have the offensive meaning, unless said offensive meaning was part of the parody you intended to convey -- in short, if you weren't trying to insult someone, use literally ANY other word that rhymes with "bag."

ozzzz66611/19/2018, 5:11:07 PM3 votes

Doesn't really matter what you think.

MrFawknSunshine11/19/2018, 5:10:20 PM2 votes

Woozy Kitten: %%% Woozy Kitten: %%% Woozy Kitten: %%%

what is this?

what are you being censored for?

MegaLobunny11/19/2018, 10:01:53 PM1 votes

I mean... that’s not just a bad word it’s a homophobic slur with a history of dehumanizing violence that is still used to hurt people today. The only safe usage of the word is by gay men or trans women (as those were the two groups targeted by this word. Trans women for transmisogynistic reasons) who have made the decision to reclaim that word for themselves. Even then they should be respectful of other gay men or trans women who have trauma related to that word.

Used by other people in other situations and yea it’s homophobic. Riot can’t reliably confirm a persons identity AND confirm consent so they don’t allow. (tho being a big company it’s more that the word is a slur so they ban it outright and don’t care for specifics since they’re hard to determine/easy to lie about/not easy to navigate nuance like that.)

Also.... don’t call us homosexuals. Just call us gay.