My Questionable Ban

Woozy Kitten·Aug 4, 2016·2 votes·1,298 views

Alright so I got perma banned the other day.

Greetings darkoktober, Actions that have been performed on your account are in violation of the League of Legends Terms of Use. You can review these terms at http://www.leagueoflegends.com/legal/termsofuse Due to the severity of this violation, your League of Legends account has been banned until Mon Feb 22 22:22:22 UTC 2900 If you have any questions, contact our Player Support team at https://support.leagueoflegends.com/home Riot Games Player Support

I've never done anything ban worthy, and certainly not perma ban worthy so I sent in a ticket.

I'm hella unsure why I got banned... Can someone tell me and possibly review the ban? Because I didn't do anything deserving a ban I got this reply a few days later.

Hello Summoner, Sorry it took a while to get back to you. I've updated the lock on your account to two weeks starting today, though I wanted to touch on some of your last matches. Please note that as a one-time exception any further punishments that occur in this matter will not be able to be reversed for any reason. Furthermore, we will not be able to restore the standing of this account, and any further negativity that results in punishment will be your responsibility. In the following matches your account was audited for the incredible spike of negativity that we saw. These matches best exemplify that negativity. If you find that a player is creating a negative experience for you there is an appropriate way to handle it, and insulting them is not the best way to go about it. Simply mute and report them after the game. That provides us with valuable tracking information to address those players appropriately. Match 1: [0:44] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): its okay

[0:47] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): its like i never had heal

[1:14] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): same dude

[7:03] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): no summs bot

[7:57] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): why didnt u tp

[10:25] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): who else is fat (this is in reference to something someone said about gragas)

[10:26] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): the fuck

[13:31] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): jhin flash

[19:38] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): ?

[22:25] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): what did i do

[22:29] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): i rekt that fight

[22:39] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): wait

[22:45] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): ur dad isnt snoring anymore

[25:11] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): filthy fool

[27:07] [All] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): cuz ur dead now bitch

[27:20] [All] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): thats why u just died

[27:27] [All] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): u dead bitch

[28:01] [All] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): wtf u called me honey

[28:10] [All] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): pls end urself u creep

[32:05] [All] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): no it wasm e

[32:25] [All] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): it was me

[35:59] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): bnrb

[38:59] [All] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): WAIT WHAT

Match 2: Intentionally left ranked game

Match 3: [2:07] AlphaStrikeSucks (Bard): im not duo with illaoi

[8:06] AlphaStrikeSucks (Bard): ur mother is mexican

[11:18] AlphaStrikeSucks (Bard): SAME

[18:21] [All] AlphaStrikeSucks (Bard): ????

[27:29] AlphaStrikeSucks (Bard): she just wants to flame me man

Templar Iytsuna Player Behavior and Game Support "We are all connected."

Game by Game First game the enemy adc was flaming me for losing lane winning game (until we lost eventually) that's the guy who called me honey to which I said pls end urself creep. Ban worthy?

Second Game was an open mid game. Keep in mind I NEVER open mid, and I NEVER give up, afk etc. This game I did afk however, had a mid Xin who was mad I didn' give him jungle and he was half intent feeding, an angry talon top and a losing bot. I left the game because it really wasn't worthy my time to put up with the toxicity that game and I had something to do anyways. NO it's not good to leave games, but that was the first ranked game I've left in a long long time. I did leave an aram like a week ago, feel asleep mid game.

Third game you don't see it but I WAS HELLA HELLA HELLA getting flamed by my adc and their supposed duo. I dont know why but it happened. I said nothing in reply and just did my best.

While I appreciate not getting a perma, I don't think a two week is warranted either considering I've never got anything worse than a five game ( i said five day chat ban on accident before some votes but I changed it) chat ban. No three day or one day ban. NO 15 game chat restrict (maybe like a couple years ago).

For the poll, vote max chat ban if you think two week is too harsh but chat ban is too little. I can't edit polls.

EDIT: So the pls end urself u creep seems to be the point where I deserved the ban. RIP.

31 Comments

Deep Terror NamiAug 4, 20166 votes

"please end yourself"

In other words, suggesting they kill themselves, which is grounds for an immediate permanent ban. Please do not ever suggest someone kill themselves, whether in person or over the internet, as you have no idea what they are going through and what the repercussions of your actions may be.

Whether that is how you meant what you said or not is irrelevant, as that is how it may look.

You got really lucky that they helped you out and reduced your punishment, and I'd keep your head down and not use chat unless it's positive or useful to the game at hand.

Woozy KittenAug 4, 20161 votes

that what I assumed, but still a two week just for that? And I don't have a history of being toxic... I think it's a bit much

Deep Terror NamiAug 4, 20162 votes

The lack of a toxic history is why they reduced the punishment. If you continue your past trend of good behavior then your punishment tier will slowly drop down and you'll eventually have a clean status again.

Woozy KittenAug 4, 20161 votes

this is what I'll go for

TorgazAug 4, 20161 votes

I wish you luck in your attempts in the future. This other thread was posted as he found that not chatting helped him actually improve his game.

Here

AmatęrasuAug 5, 20161 votes

You're not an arbiter anymore Nami?

Deep Terror NamiAug 5, 20161 votes

I was stupid and said something negative about boards moderation and got the boot :3 I'm still helping through the volunteer program, though :P You should see the other Arbiters a little bit more, and I can send them here if anyone prefers their assistance.

LostFr0stAug 4, 20162 votes

That straw could be the last one needed to severely hurt or kill someone irl. A life is precious; that chat written should not to be taken lightly or ignored.

Panic4WhoAug 4, 20161 votes

{quoted}

that what I assumed, but still a two week just for that? And I don't have a history of being toxic... I think it's a bit much

I am betting you do. Because reading those game chat seems like it is a normal occurrence. Sad that people like think it is funny to tell players to end them selfs.

Woozy KittenAug 4, 20161 votes

What... I said it once and I wasn't even really toxic in the chats so where do you gather saying it's a normal occurrence? You're pre forming judgement on me and it's not fair. And wouldn't it be nice if no one found it offensive? Especially in a joking context. Jesus, I get it, and I won't say it again, but people are taking this too seriously.

Also if you saw the corresponding chats it'd be far more fitting.

LostFr0stAug 4, 20163 votes

Everyone is accountable for their own chat, no matter the circumstances. If you want everyone to fairly judge the above, you should post all three games' chat logs.

Edit: This chat line alone is permaworthy "[28:10] [All] AlphaStrikeSucks (Jinx): pls end urself u creep"

Woozy KittenAug 4, 20161 votes

I did bro...

LostFr0stAug 4, 20161 votes

The chat logs for games 2 and 3 are very short then. Rip. [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Woozy KittenAug 4, 20161 votes

yeah..

WinterkillAug 4, 20162 votes

Are you serious? You used a lot of curse words, you practically told someone to go murder himself, and you were rude. Your ban was escalated because you told someone to go kill himself. Don't tell anyone to do that and go get counseling if you feel that way about everyone. Toxic behavior is not an excuse to tell someone to go kill himself.

RageQ2Aug 4, 20161 votes

Generally League doesn't like anything that has to do with ending ones life/death threats. Even if jokingly, they don't find it amusing. I've had this happen to me on the forums, joking about Teemo and other champs like that which everyone dislikes for their abilities and such.

Woozy KittenAug 4, 20161 votes

Yeah, but damn a two week for that? I mean.. It's one thing if I'm telling people to end their lives left and right or I'm hella toxic but I'm not, for a relatively isolated incident isn't this a bit much?

FlashnFuseAug 4, 20161 votes

Even in a single isolated incident, Riot takes things like that very seriously.

Honestly I think it's for good reason, how would you honestly feel if something you said were the last straw for somebody else and they legitimately killed themselves after a game of league with you?

That's why telling someone to kill themselves is always very seriously penalized.

Woozy KittenAug 4, 20161 votes

Leaving the emotions out of my answer and just leaving logic, anyone who is going to kill them self after being told to do so by a stranger who said it in a joking context over a video game medium, is someone who's very unstable and already somewhat a lost cause. I mean if such a small push is all that it takes there is already so much darkness behind that person that them ultimately killing themselves was already a probable inevitability.

Philosophically it's also a bit of an evolutionary concept, and a lot of people are irritated with the over sensitive society with all the politically correctness. There's alot on that topic, but does humanity actually want someone who's genes specifies a crippling depression and likeness to easily be affected by something as small as being told to joking kill themselves over a video game? On an individual scale someone killing themselves is a truly horrible event, but think about it on a larger scale. Evolution works it's ways the way it does, and people who kill themselves are removing themselves from the gene pool. Now, no I hope no one killed themselves because of me and I'd feel horrible and have trouble dealing with that burden if I found out I ever contributed to someone's suicide. However on the large scale of things I'd hope for a more hardy humanity that wouldn't so easily take offense to things nor be so sensitive, and since such things are dictated by brains, which are made by proteins, which follow order from DNA, which are formed by Genes, which are passed down re productively, such a hardened society and only be formed by evolution, which pertains to BIO evolution (gene pool survival), and also general community allowance evolution. If people go forth with over sensitization and politically correct bull then we will breed it. I think it's a bit much.

So that's my answer, probably not pleasant through and through, and I'll take my two week ban and learn from it. But keep in mind this is just a scales answer, if someone told my best friend to kill themselves and my best friend actually did it, I'd be looking for vengeance.

I could fix the English, but I had an early morning and I'm too tired right now.

LostFr0stAug 4, 20162 votes

Keep in mind that there are people who use the game as an escape, and that there are people out there who are told such things irl on a regular basis.

Maybe being alone playing soloqueue etc. with no one around to stop them immediately could tip the scales. Ya never know.

I'm super happy you posted here at 14 day ban so you could get feedback and hopefully prevent perma^^ I wish you fair winds Alpha.

Woozy KittenAug 4, 20162 votes

yeah the guy made it a two week. Thanks bro

RageQ2Aug 4, 20161 votes

Well I mean, for the fact that they gave you a perm ban means that there had to be something done in the past that got them to keep you marked, you must've just gone a bit to far. Good thing you got out of it thought, other than that I guess that their word is final. ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Woozy KittenAug 4, 20161 votes

I think I got marked because I've been playing from different ips. My original ban had no chat logs to go with it. So what I think actually happened is I was banned on accident, then this Rioter slammed a two week down on me when he went through th account.

LatetotheRaceAug 4, 20161 votes

Playing from different ips is irrelevant if your performance is generally consistent.

Woozy KittenAug 4, 20161 votes

it's not tbh.. why is someone downvoting all my comments lmao

LatetotheRaceAug 4, 20161 votes

Oh let's see. You broke the summoner's code close to 10 times in that one game alone. This isn't some freak accident or unusual game for you I can assure you. Quite honestly you deserved what you got, and riot even warned you prior. I'm saving some rioter time by not having to post on here. Perhaps next time you'll consider actually following the rules.

Woozy KittenAug 4, 20161 votes

Wait a minute it is though, because last time I got chat banned was a while ago with a 5 game chat ban as max? Moreover I posted all 3 games and only in one of them was a mildly toxic? Or is that game just super offensive? Also please don't assume I'm toxic in tons of games, absolutely untrue and i find it offensive you take such a self righteous (and erroneous) position to judge me.

LatetotheRaceAug 4, 20161 votes

Well Sir, I've never received a punishment from riot other than a leaver buster. (Client crashes op) So I do believe I can act self-righteous to an extent. So you've broken the rules on multiple occasions as I stated earlier (and you confirmed), you've just been unlucky enough to have been successfully reported this time. I can guarantee you one thing though. If you don't break the rules/summoner's code, you will not be punished.

Woozy KittenAug 4, 20161 votes

I was commenting on how you said something untrue, I'm not toxic, when I am "toxic" it's nothing more than irritating the flamers. More of pissing off the guys who are being assholes which ironically gets me high volumes of reports. I don't think I've done anything really worth even much of a chat ban aside from a few games where I had a bad day. So no I don't think you can act self righteous just because you've never had a bad day, and especially because you made an erroneous assumption, in fact imho acting self righteous especially with aforemention conditions is toxic albeit in the rules. To me the worst kind of toxic. Later bro

LatetotheRaceAug 4, 20161 votes

"bad day" " More of pissing off the guys who are being assholes" "when I am "toxic" it's nothing more than irritating the flamers" These are your problems. Stop having "bad days," and don't fight fire with fire.