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Chaos689··2 votes·631 views

I just wanted to point out that the game that got me banned for "feeding" (I was NOT intentional i'm just bad) had a k/d of 4/20...

ACTUALLY big update to the ban! Apparently I was banned for negative chat. Now, this seems fishy to me because I haven't had so much as a chat restrict for ~8 months. If this was the 2-strike system, I don't think that would've applied anyway, as I said nothing that could be really toxic in that game... salty yes toxic no. On second thought, I had quoted the ally Rengar telling me to commit suicide and uninstall in /allchat...

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AraMoOse3 votes

4/20, you say? I'll be right back... . . . .

Ok sorry I got distracted for some reason...

But yeah, 20 deaths in one game sounds very suspicious. It's not the sort of thing that can really be explained by just "having a bad game".

Chaos6891 votes

By "bad game" I mean like... BAD. As in first time ryze against a brand and xin zhao duo. As in I had LITERALLY NO IDEA WHAT I WAS DOING. Yeah :C

EvilDustMan2 votes

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By "bad game" I mean like... BAD. As in first time ryze against a brand and xin zhao duo. As in I had LITERALLY NO IDEA WHAT I WAS DOING. Yeah :C

Riot doesn't hit you for a game where you did bad. Feeder buster specifically looks for certain behavior, like constantly wasting abilities, summoner spells, not fighting. It doesn't just git you for bad games.

Chaos6891 votes

As of my personal experience NOPE. K/D and items and the way you die is what they look at.

EvilDustMan2 votes

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As of my personal experience NOPE. K/D and items and the way you die is what they look at.

Well, you are wrong. They have a system in place that checks your in game behavior.

AraMoOse1 votes

a. You are playing ranked. This means you should have at least SOME experience in the game. You could have been caught by surprise once or twice, but 20 times? no.

b. Why would you even be playing ranked with a champion you have "NO IDEA WHAT 'you' WERE DOING"?

Chaos6891 votes

It umm wasn't ranked lol. I don't really play ranked.

AraMoOse1 votes

You are aware we can see your match history, right?

Chaos6891 votes

So? It wasn't ranked lol... As far as I know I haven't played ranked in a while... UNLESS I had accidentally clicked Ranked? No I don't think I could be that dumb...

Chaos6891 votes

Yeah nope! I thought I had misclicked but nah that's not ranked!

AraMoOse1 votes

No what I'm saying is we can see, for example, that the game immediately previous to that, you gave up 25 kills on teemo. 2 games before that, you gave up 16 kills on blitzcrank. Don't you think that is at least a little suspicious?

Given that you have hidden your normal games on your profiles, as well as filtered your ranked games, effectively preventing us from looking any further, don't you think that is also somewhat suspicious? Especially given the context you find yourself in?

Chaos6891 votes

Lol no I don't! If you actually looked you would see that I pretty much ONLY play a few assassins and was playing those few teemo/blitz games with my friends. (Also i'm trash with teemo) I didn't hide my ranked games; I just can't get them to show. RN you are being a little bit annoying trying to witch hunt me on a joke post... BUT FINE HERE I'LL TRY AND UNFILTER THEM U HAPPY NOW?

Ah hey cool. As usual you guys are making random assumptions! I just checked and it says all types of map, champ, and mode are shown. HF with you witch hunt.

AraMoOse1 votes

You have expressed the sentiment that your punishment was unjustified, I am showing you the justification for it.

Someone reported you, more than once, for feeding. It does not really help you to say you were playing with friends ; someone in the game looked at your behavior and decided it was worth a report.

In order for your account to be investigated, this had to occur in several of your games.

Then the account was investigated, prompted by those reports, and was found to be guilty, and based on the limited amount of evidence you are willing to provide us, it is not hard to see why.

Edited after investigation : you have now shown us all your ranked games, but are still hiding your normals. You have also changed the custom games from "filtered" to "hidden". We don't really care about your custom games, but it still raises the question of "why?"

Chaos68921 votes

A: Actually NOPE according to Rito. B: No I was only reported for feeding once. C: People aren't toxic like you in most games; they understand when a bad game happens or you're super underfarmed/levelled BECAUSE THATS HOW THE GAME WORKS D: "Limited evidence" Tell me have you not had enough "evidence" that Reptilians haven't invaded the White House? I don't actually HAVE to give you anything but I don't have anything hidden in my history. Please stop talking on this post if you're just gonna ignore what I say and be rude.

AraMoOse1 votes

Investigating your claims is not "rudeness", it is curiosity. Let's take this one at a time

A. Don't know what you mean here

B. How would you even know how many times your were reported?

C. After 6 odd years of playing, I have yet to receive any punishment whatsoever. Your accusations of "being toxic" seem to be based on my desire to check if what you're saying is actually true. If it were true, why would you be bothered by me checking? Wouldn't you want me to check?

D. This starts off with philosophy 101. One does not look for evidence that Reptilians HAVEN'T invaded the white house. One looks for evidence that they have. Finding no such evidence, we are forced to conclude that it is highly improbable that a reptilian species could have invaded the White House.

Similarly, we are not looking for evidence of you NOT feeding. What we need is evidence that you were. In the very limited amount of games which I can access, I find considerable pieces of Data suggesting the hypothesis that you are feeding. 

 You are telling me that you don't know how to show your games, but you appear to be capable of changing the state of your ranked games from 'Filtered' to 'shown' AND your custom games from 'filtered' to 'hidden'...
Chaos68921 votes

A: Ok then it's not my job to teach you. B: "Investigating claims" isn't your job. Nor is witch-hunting me until you can write me off. Also: IT TELLS YOU WHAT YOU WERE BANNED FOR C: No, actually. Your "desire to check what is actually true" is really just you looking for an excuse to write me off as yet another irrelevant person who got banned. It would be nice if you could STOP ACCUSING ME?

D: Nice wording, bad logic. A few games with more than 10 deaths isn't "feeding". IN low elos, when a player gets far behind, they generally DIE A LOT. "Considerable pieces of data"? WTF is that? Maybe 3 games where I had more than 10 deaths? I can live with the fact that I'm not great at the game - not the fact that I'm being punished, accused, or witch-hunted for it.

AraMoOse1 votes

A: Suit yourself. If your objective is not to be understood, feel free not to clarify.

B: I am not doing this because it's "my job". Also as I've said before, I have not been banned. Ever. In 6 years. So you tell me, what have I been banned for?

C: I don't know on what grounds you presume to tell me what my motivations are, I think I am in a far better place than you to know why I do things. I have NOT accused you of anything. I don't actually know what occurred in those games. I have brought up points which make me suspicious.

D: I'm afraid it is not with me you are arguing here in terms of application of logic. You are arguing with the body of philosophical knowledge we have at our disposal with respect to "demonstrating claims"

D': As I've mentionned a few times now, we only have a limited amount of games to evaluate because you are refusing to make your normal games visible. In light of this, your "maybe 3 games" becomes a lot more egregious when we consider that they are in a sample size of roughly 10-15 games, all within a very short time span.

You COULD of course allow us to look at the rest of your normal games, and maybe we would find only 3 games within a sample size of hundreds of normal games. But you refuse to do so.

Chaos68921 votes

LOL For one: Can you please just let it go? I'm not "hiding" anything. A: Ok then. B: I don't get it. When did I say that you were banned? Also, what evidence do I have, as you would say, that you've never been banned? C: HA! This coming from the one who accuses me of "hiding" my ranked games and picks through my match history for anything remotely like feeding... Also, yeah you accused me. Saying " I find considerable pieces of Data suggesting the hypothesis that you are feeding. You are telling me that you don't know how to show your games, but you appear to be capable of changing the state of your ranked games from 'Filtered' to 'shown' AND your custom games from 'filtered' to 'hidden'..." IS AN ACCUSATION. COOL IT BRO.

D: Now I'm "refusing" to make my normal games visible... I thought it was ranked last time? Nice attempt to sound like you know what you're talking about, but NOPE. I have no idea how match history works. All I know about it is that the filters won't let me view games from only one champion and they never show what I want to see, no matter how much I change them. Stop acting like i'm a heretic and you're the inquisitor, k?

AraMoOse1 votes

B. Please review point B in your last post (not the one I am presently responding to). You wrote it in all caps, should be pretty easy for you to find.

C Yes, I initially checked your match history to get my own opinion of your ban, since you expressed doubt that it was legitimate. This seems like standard critical thinking 101, "Check the claims being made"

    What you quote from me is not in fact an accusation, it is an assertion that the data you've made available to us is suspicious and supports the feeding hypothesis. 

At this point I'd like to point out the irony of you asking me to "cool it bro" in all caps... Can YOU calm down?

D. I was initially under the impression that the ryze game was a ranked game, which is why I wanted to see your ranked games. A quick look at Lolking showed it was in fact a Normal game. I find no evidence of feeding in your Ranked games, but cannot see the "Normal games", which are the ones that need to be evaluated to prove your innocence.

I'm not sure you understand what the Inquisition actually was if you can compare someone asking to see your games to public executions and torture sessions. I am just asking questions, and instead of answering them, you are getting angry and playing the "I'm being oppressed" card.

       If you wish for me to let it go you can either : 

a. Cease responding. b. Allow your normal games to be seen. c. Concede the point that it at LEAST looks a little suspicious.

Spartan117101 votes

dude i got banned fro going aginast a 4 man with 3 level 7 and 1 level 6. And i went 1/16 and i rarely play fizz

Chaos6891 votes

I'm confused... did you get legit banned or were u just steamrolled by the system like me?

Spartan117101 votes

steamrolled

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

It very well could've been the result of other matches and that's just the one that triggered the review. I see you had a Zed match 20 days ago where you had a bunch of mana items; I can't tell if you simply sold everything and bought them right before you lost though.

If your ban was a mistake then you can submit a Support Ticket and request they look at your case again.

Chaos6891 votes

Nah that one I tilted hard and fed. I know I was wrong overall but I'm still a bit salty that I got banned for a game where I didn't even feed intentionally.... I'd never fed before either other than that one awful zed game :C

Spartan117101 votes

dude at the end of the game i buy all tears when my team is really shit i rarely even play bad.I just got banned from getting smurfed on which is bs and riot is to stubborn to understand me

Chaos6891 votes

Yo wtf i didn't start a thread for salty perma'd ppl to say it was unfair. My ban was a result of a two strike system and a bunch of salty premades out of context. Your ban(s) were most likely 100% legit and from the way you speak you deserved them. Please... I don't want that on this thread.

Spartan117101 votes

No i didnt get banne for that. The one i got banned was intiotally feeidng and going aginst a premade that thought i was feeding.

Spartan117101 votes

it wasnt a perma it was 14 dyas. And liek you i got banned for intionally feeding but they were all level 5mastery and up and i dont play fizz at all.

Chaos68921 votes

That's OK then I guess as long as you weren't super salty and didn't intentionally feed. I have to say though, fizz isn't exactly the toughest champ to do well with...

As long as your punishment and reform is pretty good then I'm ok with it; just don't flame (TO EVERYONE)

Spartan117101 votes

i want even toxic the cho gath was and i got banned xd

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