Honor and End of Season Rewards. Why Change?

a F R 0 G·Aug 30, 2018·3 votes·2,824 views

Historically, chat bans, account suspensions, and perma bans were the only way to miss out on end of season rewards after ranking up the ladder all season. This year, with the implementation of the honor system and hextech reward punishments, Riot had other things in mind.. To create a Dishonorable Status where anyone below level 2 honor will be INELLIGABLE for rewards. Not just the keys to gain blue/orange essence but your loading screen border, the seasonal ward skin, the victorious skin, and the profile border. If you are unable to return your lvl 2 status by the end of the season, a process which takes months. Let me repeat that.. Months.

A process which takes months for you to regain your honorable status and receive your end of season rewards. For another year, you will have to remain borderless for the work and time you put in. Historically, this process of reforming was done within the mind of the individual, after working out the punishment, and really considering how their actions are unacceptable (had to be said). And as the loading screen quote tells us, 30% of players who experience one chat ban will never receive another. So where does that leave the other 70% this season?

Dear player who received a chat ban after typing the trigger words, after the gatekeepers of the next division trolled your promotional series for the third time this month. And you the accused who unleashed your power to chat upon the greasy villain only to find your account plunged into a dishonorable putrid state. Sorry to you player, if you did end up making it to that next division for the first time in your league career. You've made countless friends, played with thousands of other players, engaged competitive matches and did not gloat in victory, stayed humble in defeat so often... you've made the experience a joy for so many players. But you fucked up. If you've received this punishment within 2 months of the end of the season when you've finally grasped the meta, finally come to climb out of your last years border, finally found your role in the league, all that hard work. Sorry, you will not receive your end of season rewards, you're toxic.

Riot, will you change this system? I believe it to be unfair. Share your thoughts in the comments below.

Edit: this got negative attention so heres an idea. Instead of giving these players jail, how about giving them an opportunity to develop empathy with a sort of community service? Give these toxic players the opportunity to gain honor by teaching newer players the game. Put a game mode that matches people on voice communication or something that allows distributing game knowledge in a practical way. Let the newer player give them a rating that will be documented. Once you recieve enough high ratings and reviews, you will regain normal honor. The current honor gaining system is antiquated.

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21 Comments

Imperial PandaaAug 30, 201811 votes

Some people take months, others days or weeks. But seeing as everyone started at 2 by default (pending dishonorable from previous season) seems fair to require it.

GeauxxAug 30, 20189 votes

or just drop the ego and don't be toxic, its not hard.

Congrats, some kids flamed on a game or trolled a game or whatever and you felt the need to be toxic because you're weak-willed.

Eternal TormentAug 30, 20182 votes

Literally this.

You can't claim you are better than someone while competing to say the worse things. If someone insults you, keep it shut, don't say shit back. Doesn't matter how polite you are, talking back brings you down to their level, if not lower.

Just let them run their deluded ego rampart and enjoy your seasonal rewards while they cry on the boards for unjust punishments.

zPOOPzAug 30, 20188 votes

Historically, chat bans, account suspensions, and perma bans were the only way to miss out on end of season rewards after ranking up the ladder all season.

They still are the only way to miss out on end of season rewards. Before, there was just an arbitrary "cut-off" day (I believe 1 month from end of season) that will cause you to lose your rewards. Now there is no "cut-off" day before end of season.

Kei143Aug 30, 20183 votes

3 months

a F R 0 GAug 30, 20181 votes

The cut off day existed sure but you had an exact measurement of what you needed to do. The requirements of the honor system are not clear at all.

Umbral RegentAug 30, 20182 votes

I mean, how much clearer can you possibly get than "Be Honor Level 2 or higher"?

zPOOPzAug 30, 20183 votes

Before, when someone get 14-day at the beginning of the season, he would not lose his season rewards at all. If someone get 14-day 1 hour before the cut-off day, he would still get season rewards. If you happened to get 14-day issued 5 minutes after cut-off, you lose your season rewards. Personally, I do not believe that to be fair.

Now if you get CR or 14-day at any time during the season, you have to work for your season rewards regardless of when you got it. Everyone climb honor different because if you are mildly negative in your games, you will climb slower than other who are more positive or at least neutral.

requirements for the honor system is quite clear: play to win, do not flame, do not rage, do not int, use chat for strategic purpose or encouragement only. Don't be an asshole in winning or losing.

ModiAug 30, 20185 votes

Historically, chat bans, account suspensions, and perma bans were the only way to miss out on end of season rewards after ranking up the ladder all season. This year, with the implementation of the honor system and hextech reward punishments, Riot had other things in mind.. To create a Dishonorable Status where anyone below level 2 honor will be INELLIGABLE for rewards

The only way to go below honor 2 is to receive one of those punishments. I don't see how it is that much different from what it was before. Yes, it makes it harder to "earn back" rewards, when you are punished, but I agree with Riot that it should be hard to earn it back. It should take effort. You shouldn't be rewarded when you are not being a good LoL citizen.

VeralionAug 30, 20181 votes

It takes no effort, just time. There's no point to doing more than 3 games a day if you want honor. Honor 5 does not mean you are a positive player. It just means that it's been ages since you've been punished. Most honor 5s I see are passive aggressive assholes who just know what they can get away with and have BM down to a science.

ModiAug 30, 20183 votes

It takes no effort, just time

Tell that to the people who struggle to muster the self control to refrain from retaliating.

From your other post here:

You can straight up say the n word on battle.net and Blizzard will only ban you for 3 hours. 14 days for anything short of scripting is fucking absurd.

your opinion, but the point is moot. Battle.net is owned by Blizzard, and they set their own rules. LoL is owned by Riot, and the also set their own rules. If you don't like/can't handle following the rules, then you are free to leave.

Zombie GerbilAug 30, 20184 votes

No, they will not change it and it isn't unfair, because toxic players need to learn the consequences of their words. It's unfair for players having to tolerate any of these toxicity or ruined game experiences. And these players should know, that other people are not there for them to torture for their own amusement or their own lack of empathy, compassion, or self-control. We're all equal, we all agreed to the same terms, and we're all abiding by it to remain in Riot's service. Toxic players should learn and be aware that there are consequences for their ignorance.

We're here to have fun, but not by other players expense. No, Riot should not, and they will certainly make it more strict if they do change it.

TheKingOfBichesAug 30, 20181 votes

Rammus

a F R 0 GAug 30, 20181 votes

No ones getting tortured. People load into games and grief you. They spew bullshit out of their greasy fingers at other players. And some of the recipients tell them the fuck off and fight fire with fire. Bring it to all chat then the bully and the bullied get banned. Riot punishes everyone the same just because they said trigger words. Its ironic that you aren’t allowed to see other player chats when you are chat banned. They take your words out of context.

Zombie GerbilAug 30, 20184 votes

Because it's about being accountable for your own actions. Responsibilities. You don't like the idea that you're not supposed to retaliate against people in a video game because general idea of this game is to play it, not to harass, retaliate, insult, be inflammatory, and not to be a complete utter douchebag because other people pisses you off.

You came here wanting to play Riot's game. Riot granted you permission to access their account by one condition and that is to abide by their rules. You agreed to them, regardless if you didn't read it not, you are hereby on those agreed terms. Riot isn't going to change something just because you don't want to be responsible for your own actions.

Grow up.

a F R 0 GAug 30, 20181 votes

Submission to big brother who is the protector of us all. you assume everyone who is chat banned is verbally assaulting innocent children. Your stance is toxic.

Eternal TormentAug 30, 20183 votes

The answer is simple.

In life, nobody rewards you for being an ass. Games are a hobby, which is part of life. So why should Riot make an exception to that rule?

VeralionAug 30, 20182 votes

It's total bullshit and part of the reason why the game is dying. You can straight up say the n word on battle.net and Blizzard will only ban you for 3 hours. 14 days for anything short of scripting is fucking absurd. After this trainwreck of a season and seeing the current direction of champion design go off the deep end, I think I'm gonna play a game that treats me as something more than expendable garbage.

TheEvilQueen135Aug 30, 20181 votes

i do think they could decrease the amount of honor levels taken by chat restrictions. to have both bans and chat restrictions go to 0 i think is a little harsh for the chat people, they should still lose honor but maybe they should just go down to unlocked status or level one. and this is coming from someone not banned since 2014 when they still did bans for afks (college had bad wifi that year)

zPOOPzAug 30, 20182 votes

The first chat restriction only dropped your honor to 1, not 0. The 2nd CR, if you are still on 1, will drop it to 0.

TheEvilQueen135Aug 31, 20181 votes

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The first chat restriction only dropped your honor to 1, not 0. The 2nd CR, if you are still on 1, will drop it to 0.

ah okay. that's more reasonable. i've only ever seen/heard people complain about going down to 0 with a cr or ban for some reason so i just assumed they all went to 0