What am i supposed to do in a hostile lobby?

ElemBulldog·Jan 23, 2017·7 votes·623 views

Enter a lobby, the support asks if it would be ok if they jungle. I say no, they say well they're jungling anyway. I say that forcing role switching is a reporttable offense and i will be doing so after this game. They pick a jungler anyway and tell me good luck with that. Now i have two options.

I play through to get my report in I queue dodge

Those two options are not exactly acceptable, they're empowering the other person. What is the best way to handle this? i shouldn't have to lose LP and i shouldn't have to take a queue dodge penalty because someone refuses to play their assigned role. I understand a perfect system is hard to achieve but this use case is so common it should already be addressed.

13 Comments

Magical PlayerJan 23, 20172 votes

queue dodge open a support ticket. submit any proof of the incident

GoleBilonJan 24, 20173 votes

loose time as well as -2lp be in a low priority que while the other guy plays the game without punishment.

i think he was looking for a solution that does not include everything above.

Magical PlayerJan 24, 20172 votes

Invent one that can't be abused by anyone and riot will look into it

AlienPrimateJan 24, 20177 votes

Have the client record lobby chat and add a report button in the pregame lobby. Report and leave for no penalty to either person(s) until the case is reviewed. If you unjustly report/left then the penalties are far more than if you just dodge with something like an instant 20 minute leaver buster for 10 games. That is a system that can't be abused.

Luso ClemensJan 25, 20172 votes

That isn't exactly feasible as it would demand an immense amount of manpower. Even if you only did that once out of a hundred games, there are millions of players that might have that one game out of a hundred. There's already a lot of wait on regular reports that need to be reviewed by an actual person. It also can be abused in other scenarios, such as when someone wants to play an off-meta champ in their role, like karma top or malzahar support. The person reporting would just say that their teammate-to-be was a troll. People already dodge a lot for this reason, so there'd most definitely be lobby reports on that which would clog up Riot's resources.

AlienPrimateJan 25, 20171 votes

Easy solution to that. Bring back the tribubal. I consider myself to be a fair person and used the tribunal for a while. I had 100% accuracy on majority votes so the tribunal is fair in my opinion. People who are prone to use the teibunal wouldn't vote against a person who is picking off meta so the person reporting them would quick learn their lesson with the harsh penalty I mentioned. With a system like this I thought of another thing that would be added. Have everyone in the lobby be required to fill out a report ticket after the lobby closes including the one reported giving them the chance to defend themselves. This would provide sufficient information for a tribunal to evaluate who is at fault.

GoleBilonJan 24, 20171 votes

Have a "vote out " possibilty where the super majority (4 out of 5 ) can vote someone out and the game looks for another player to join for the designated position ( only in ranked ques because in no que you can have 4 premades that can abuse this )

this way , you are not bullied by the troll that does not get punished , its not abuseable by premade parties , yea it wont work perfectly but as we know no punishment system in League does and the effectivness will be good enough. It also does not include punishments which is a good argument for " but i did nothing wrong and they voted me out " because you actually dont loose more than 3 minutes in que.

Im low elo on the most toxic server in the west ( at least thats the common opinion ) from my experience this behaviour is super common that autofilled guys do not give a single fuck and go either troll champs or they take someones role.

Solution i gave can only abuse players that want to go " my famous teemo adc " and in those cases its trolling , yea they try they hardest but by picking teemo adc you are making it easier for the enemy team to win , yet nobody punishes you for this just makes your que longer so its not like "unconventional picks " are getting bullied more

AMYS GRAVEJan 24, 20171 votes

Just because it can be abused doesn't mean it isn't better. Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good.

StoryDuckJan 24, 20171 votes

I would do this as well. It sucks you get penalized for it but its better then a loss of 20 points in ranked. It would be nice to have a third option but I'm not sure what that would be.

Kei143Jan 24, 20171 votes

I would just play a double jungle comp that focuses on invades, map control and ganks.

Off meta games are refreshing in its own way.

Luso ClemensJan 25, 20171 votes

That is, if you can come to an agreement with them on that. If they're going to force their way into a role, they might not be the most reasonable people.

Telephone BoothJan 25, 20171 votes

I agree with kei. Go jungle anyways, don't talk during game other than to say you got jungle, if asked directly what's going on. Win game, report the troll afterwards. They can see the lobby chat and they can tell who had what pick.