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Riot needs a new perma ban system

Ulfric Storm··3 votes·3,850 views

I was permanently banned today and usually most people that are kids are going to say well yeah its what you get for flaming, when I was just agreeing with another person who was flaming because of a feeding teammate. Why in the hell, did Riot just perma ban my account that I have had since i started playing, I have bought SO much RP on this account and it is actually like making me want to kill myself right now, I have no other games I really look forwards to playing and to get home from school ready to have fun and play ranked and login to see that ban is just a little too much for me. I have over 2000 dollars invested into that account and now it is just gone for having two bad games in a row?! Riot are you kidding me?! I have playing this game since I was just a little middle school student with my laptop, I honestly think Riot has some sort of down syndrome with the way they think they are treating the community well when they do this kind of thing. I remember back in season four when I got my first two week ban I was absolutely devastated from that, but when I got it back I was okay and stop really flaming for a while, but taking someones main account something that I have spent five fucking thousand hours on. Yeah that is right I have five thousand hours on this account and two thousand plus dollars on that account and you did what?! YOU BANNED IT?! Yeah Riot you honestly need to find a way to give a punishment that is equal to what the offender did. You can NOT just go around perma banning people for having fun like that sure you know what Riot. go ahead! Ban my dumb ass for two weeks or a month that I can take for flaming, I deserve as much for what I did go ahead, but perma banning someone who has never even got the slightest warning are you serious?! I don't think Riot people know this, but I don't care who you are, you will get a bad game in league everyone does, you will flame and be sad or mad for a while because your team fed or something and that just happens its a game. I need something else to do and there is just now this big hole in my life where and when I should and could be playing some fun ranked games now I just sit around cry and wonder why the hell would anything think that doing that is okay? I know yeah flaming people in not the thing to do and sure its not okay but there is a line Riot for when you perma ban someone, and everyone should agree that hacking and steal others account yeah perma ban the people that do that, but when you do it to the people supplying you yearly with fucking money? I go to the LCS in NA every year I go to a lot of the festivals and you are basically telling " Stop playing our game we don't want you here and we are taking your account and two hundred days of your life away from you and never giving them back, bye and good luck ". I don't care what anyone says about me because its a game, but taking the game part away from me is just not okay. If anyone knows a way to have Riot give your main back I would be glad as hell to hear it, if you don't believe I was banned or how many hours I have on the game my user "was" Ulfric Storm. If you find a way to get your main back please reply other wise all you kids who think you are funny that are going to post "you deserve it" think about how you would feel if you got banned cause I know you flame to and then don't reply. Bye!!

53 Comments

Zombiemaster8 votes

Currently, punishments are dealt with in a 4 tier system:

1.) 10 game chat restriction 2.) 25 game chat restriction 3.) 14 day ban 4.) Permanent ban

The way it works your first punishment will be the first tier, and every subsequent punishment will escalate you to the next tier of punishment, regardless of how "minor" your offense may have been. This means that anything that can get you a 10 game chat restriction can also get you a permanent ban if you do it frequently enough. You generally don't get a permanent ban for just one or two bad games.

Now, it is possible to skip the chat restrictions and jump straight to a 14 day or permanent ban if Riot determines your behavior to be severe enough. This includes, but not limited to, behavior such as using racist slurs, homophobic slurs, death threats, etc.

Knowing all this, there are two possibilities:

1.) You have received a 14 day ban recently, in which case the e-mail you received on that said that your next punishment (this one) would be a permanent ban. You have gone through multiple other punishments that served as warnings to you that your behavior is unacceptable, yet you decided to ignore them and keep acting the same way.

2.) Riot decided that your behavior was severe enough to warrant an escalation straight to a permanent ban. Now, based on what I have seen, normally when Riot does this, they generally give a 14 day ban first unless you're just completely over the top.

If you wish to have a discussion of your ban with the community, then it would be wise to post the chat logs you received. If you wish to contest your ban with Riot directly, your best bet would be to submit a support ticket about this. If you truly haven't received any other punishments since the one you claim, then there may be a slight chance that Riot will reduce your punishment to a 14 day ban. If Riot does this, then keep in mind that your next punishment will be a permanent ban and will not be lifted. However, if after doing so Riot still decides that your behavior is bad enough to keep the permanent ban, then there is really nothing else you can do.

EDIT: As for your statement that everyone flames, that's not true. There are plenty of people who are calm enough and have enough self control to not flame at other people. There's also plenty of people who do flame, but they do so by yelling at their computer screen so they can keep their anger and rage out of the in-game chat.

Ulfric Storm1 votes

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Dynikus3 votes

I have not revived any kind of warning what so ever or a 14 day ban

But you did?

I remember back in season four when I got my first two week ban

scazzman1 votes

i would say that EVERYONE has probably had at least one reportable chatlog. the question becomes how often, and how often do you actually get reported for it. or are you one of those players who is a toxic douche, but no one will actually report you because you just went 30/0/12 and carried

Dynikus4 votes

3rd time's a charm?

tl;dr:

I broke the terms of use riot permanent banned me because of it I had never gotten a warning (but then you said you had previously received a 14 day ban) not fair that I got punished for doing something punishable everyone else must flame because I do

Clearly a temporary ban wasn't enough to get you to reform, so riot took the next course of action. You knew the risks before you were toxic in game, but flamed regardless. If you think it was an unjust ban, submit a support ticket. If you want the community to help you understand why you received your ban, post the chat logs. If you want to continue playing league, you can make a new account. It's an expensive lesson, but hopefully you'll learn from it and go into games with a more positive attitude in the future if you do decide to keep playing, and try to make use of the mute button if someone tries to get under your skin.

Ulfric Storm1 votes

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Dynikus3 votes

You openly admit that you were flaming your teammates. The degree to which you do it is irrelevant if you had already received previous punishments for toxicity. If you want me to actually answer your first question, posting the chat logs would be a good start.

Ulfric Storm1 votes

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Dynikus2 votes

I have never been warned except for the time they warned me

Right. 95% of players have never received so much a 10 game chat restriction. I've had this account since s1 and haven't. What you're doing is called "projecting". Since you posted this on the boards and asked why you were banned, I'm trying to help you understand why you were banned. If you have access to your chat logs, posting them would help us point out where things you said might have been toxic and might have gotten you reported.

Ulfric Storm1 votes

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Dynikus2 votes

They already gave you a 2 week suspension. The next step from there is a permanent ban. They don't reissue the same punishments.

No flash no life2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Ulfric Storm,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=uNvGAFEp,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2016-08-09T00:42:07.257+0000)

Yeah everyone flames all the time its what happens in games

No, I have never flamed (in league at least) and if someone as incompetent as myself can meet that I expect just as much if not more from others. I admit, though, it happens way too often in this disappointing gaming community, but it shouldn't be taken as granted. People go over speed limit all the time. Is going over speed limit legal? No. If you're not caught then fine, but if you're arrested for it there's nothing you can complain about.

I flamed two games in a row

You're not even supposed to flame at all, not a single game, not a single incident, even if someone puts a knife on your throat because that's what you agreed to. Though obviously if someone puts a knife on my throat and threaten me to flame, I might do it because my life outweighs a ban, but then I would accept the punishment knowing it's the result of my action.

I have NEVER been warned

Everyone had been warned when they read and agreed to terms of uses, which also constantly popped up after every patch. Very few realized that was their first and supposedly last warning, however.

I had a chance to glimpse through your chat log and I do have to question the severity of the consequence. While you weren't being nice, with slight harassment, passive aggression, and a report threat, with riot's lenient standard I don't think those are enough to get riot's attention. If you've had a history of unacceptable behaviors then that's another story, but unfortunately we don't have access to that.

Ulfric Storm1 votes

Thanks for at least trying to be nice <3. Closest I will get to sympathy so I guess thanks while I am going to the depressing sad part of all this :3.

MatthewRT23 votes

fanning the flame makes you part of the problem, just because someone isn't a very good player doesn't mean you can mistreat them.

Ulfric Storm1 votes

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MatthewRT23 votes

" when I was just agreeing with another person who was flaming because of a feeding teammate" you aided in the flame

Ulfric Storm1 votes

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MatthewRT21 votes

that's why you were banned

AraMoOse2 votes

Let's see the chat logs.

Valrun2 votes

Just reading this post alone, I would love to see the chat log from your reform card.

The report system stocks and stores all reports filed on a player for reference when your punishment is delivered. Your punishment also scales in severity if you've been punished before. Your 'warnings' consisted of those fancy little things called 'Temporary Bans' that you received prior to this. Since you had a 14 Day Temporary Ban, it's pretty common to see that permanent ban if you're not reforming. I would love to see the reform card pasted in here. I think it'd make a nice addition to your case if you think that you're 'innocent'. However, I'm going to assume that since you're main post was full of anger and rage, that the reform card is going to show us all what we're expecting to see.

As for the amount of money you spent on your account, that sucks, but it's not Riot's fault. Your account does belong to Riot, so you don't actually own any of it. That's not going to hold any weight towards getting your account back.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/player-behavior/reports-how-do-they-work - Here's that in case you need clarification.

Ulfric Storm1 votes

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Valrun3 votes

See, the issue with the way you posted your chat logs is that you can edit out anything unsavory that would cause us to look down upon you. Screenshots are a little more reliable and anybody can link you a significant amount of programs to do so.

But frankly just the "KYS" you slid into there is enough for the permanent ban. Jokingly or not, Riot doesn't take kindly to those messages and they never have.

You're acting all high and mighty like you're fooling anyone, however just the arrogance in the way you're righting makes me feel like you believe Riot owes you something. They don't owe any of us anything. They make the game for us to play. We play their game for free or spend money if we choose to.

Ulfric Storm1 votes

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Valrun2 votes

You've been punished enough to get to this point, so there's definitely a reason they've got you permanent banned. I'd loved to see a Rioter swoop in and review this one though.

Ulfric Storm1 votes

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Valrun2 votes

See mate... Now you're proposing the threat of violence. That's going to go over real well. Have fun making a new account and/or starting a new game.

Ulfric Storm1 votes

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Valrun4 votes

Thankfully, I can unsubscribe from this thread so I don't get more browser notifications. If you're an 'adult' you should know better, to be completely honest. You messed up several times. Reap what you sow and accept your consequences. Have fun with the perma. :)

[slayer-jinx-catface]

Reket DeAlk2 votes

I think my favorite part about this is that all of the OP's posts are deleted.

PS: Pretty sure if they had a different system for permabanning people, you still would be.

HexaDecimel2 votes

If I was to get banned it would feel really shitty, but I am not worried about getting banned because I am not toxic and I don't violate the TOS that I agreed to.

I honestly don't understand why people have some much difficulty understanding the concept. Follow the rules and treat other players with some respect and it will all be smooth sailing. Or be toxic and do the very things that Riot warned you not to do, get punished, then complain how unfair the system is.

Bo7maid141 votes

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If I was to get banned it would feel really shitty, but I am not worried about getting banned because I am not toxic and I don't violate the TOS that I agreed to.

I honestly don't understand why people have some much difficulty understanding the concept. Follow the rules and treat other players with some respect and it will all be smooth sailing. Or be toxic and do the very things that Riot warned you not to do, get punished, then complain how unfair the system is.

Hey you idiot if noob players that feed and we lose rank what we fo then ? We respect them and be quiet ? Lol you are crazy we dont flame without reason

HexaDecimel1 votes

This post is over a year old tho......

Imperial Pandaa1 votes

Honestly, I didn't even notice. I just saw people jumping on the Rito sucks because I was bad bandwagon.

higura1 votes

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Ulfric Storm1 votes

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holy moly smoky, learn wtf "enter" is on the keyboard, jesus this wall of text hurts my eyes just looking at it...

its what a forum is homie sorry, just gotta love with that.

SKT Faker Playz1 votes

i god permanently banned today....I wasn't Flaming ... I dont really know why? But, riot,can you give me my account back please?I've been playing like 5 accounts in 30 lvl and always got perma bann...Im so bored but i really love league of legends...Please..

Bo7maid141 votes

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i god permanently banned today....I wasn't Flaming ... I dont really know why? But, riot,can you give me my account back please?I've been playing like 5 accounts in 30 lvl and always got perma bann...Im so bored but i really love league of legends...Please..

Same

Galiö1 votes

And you said down syndrome twice in your rant. Well deserved ban. Make another account when you grow up

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