I'm so tired of people duoing top lane cause they don't want to jungle. I've seen it several times now and because there doesn't seem to be a way of actually reporting someone for that theres no punishment for it. Is there any way of actually reporting that or are we just supposed to deal with it cause riot doesn't care people are ruining our games?
Umbral Regent3 votesIf it's in Draft Pick, you report the player for Intentionally Feeding and detail in the comments how they're abandoning their role to leech/steal/otherwise hamper their team by doubling up a lane.
It may potentially work for Blind Pick as well, but Blind Pick is a bit harder to actually handle, since role-calling there is treated as a courtesy, not a right.
Nevertheless, any gameplay related offense that severely hinders your team's chances of winning is best filed under Intentionally Feeding.
5 Dollar Holler2 votes[{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=teU1z3FP,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2020-01-01T15:32:07.043+0000)
Nevertheless, any gameplay related offense that severely hinders your team's chances of winning is best filed under Intentionally Feeding.
This likely won't yield much action. The game's AI will look at feeding as a function of KDA. They could duo top lane and both end up 5-0 when the game ends. How is that feeding? And what if they win? Intentionally Feeding is defined as assisting the enemy team, and Riot has repeatedly said that playing "off-meta" is not throwing.
Coming to the defense of the mystery griefer that the OP describes, whose to say what the intent is? Where is the line between a strategy of camping your top lane vs. actually abandoning the jungle? Is it defined as Jungle CS/Minute? Seems arbitrary.
The fact is, this behavior won't be punished because to determine intent, 1) that intent would have to be obvious (such as typed in chat, or a jungler not taking Smite), and 2) it would require a human being to review the match, which Riot will not dedicate employee time to doing. Similarly it's almost impossible to punish "giving up" without a chat declaration. Is it against the rules for me to split push while the enemy team is pushing another lane, and my team asks me to help? How do you identify when someone is split pushing as a strat and when they're just letting the enemy team end?
Possibly will be looked at if you create a support ticket.
Umbral Regent4 votesThe game's AI will look at feeding as a function of KDA.
And you know this, how? 'Cause I've seen a fair few cases where players have been punished for Intentionally Feeding without the punishment being strictly tied to KDA.
To say that Intentional Feeding reports only looks at KDA and nothing else is just plain wrong.
5 Dollar Holler2 votes[{quoted}](name=Umbral Regent,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=teU1z3FP,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2020-01-01T16:09:28.026+0000)
To say that Intentional Feeding reports only looks at KDA and nothing else is just plain wrong.
I agree, and I didn't say it "only looks at KDA."
I do know it factors in KDA. I literally watched a stream and this player was having a terrible game. He went something like 0-12. For those watching, he was obviously trying his hardest, but his teammates of course were asking for intentional feed reports in chat.
The game ended and within seconds of exiting the lobby, he received a 14-day suspension. In no other manner was he griefing, trolling, or abusive that game. I watched it all unfold in real time.
So, yes, the game does look at pure KDA as a factor. I never said it was the only factor.
ChrisBrownze2 votesIs this what Riot actually wants you to do? I always thought not playing your role would be considered greifing.
Umbral Regent4 votesThe report categories are kinda screwy like that. While Negative Attitude lists "griefing" as part of its description, it doesn't actually pertain to gameplay-related offenses. (Which, IMO, is a pretty bad misnomer. Imagine how many reports were that much less effective due to wrong report categories.)
Intentional Feeding, from what I've seen, covers all forms of gameplay-related misbehavior, from the literal running-down-mid or not attempting to preserve oneself to other trolling behaviors, like abusing Champion abilities (Trundle pillar, Anivia wall, Tahm Kench's Devour), to things like stealing CS (whether doing so as Support to the detriment of your lane partner, or following around the Jungler to screw them over) or ditching your role/role stealing.
While I can't personally confirm Riot's stance on the matter, I can at least say based on experience and having seen numerous cases on the PB boards here, all gameplay misbehavior falls under Intentional Feeding, even if it's not explicitly stated.
ChrisBrownze3 votesThats interesting. Also shows just how terrible the report system is with these terribly named categories.
Umbral Regent3 votesI wouldn't say that that's indicative of the report system being terrible, just that that particular facet of it is fairly outdated and needs to be spruced up for clarity.
ChrisBrownze1 votesYa i guess if you assume that its the only major flaw and there arent any other ones just like it on the backend.
Malfectious3 votesDuo top was how the game was designed to be played...then they figured out that giving up the safety of having a top lane support for a roaming jg was more effective. I'm not sure duo top is or should be reportable. But, if you want to report it, it would probably be for greifing?
BriefSeduction1 votesHe took smite off for tp and went top as yorrik with his duo partner veigar so I would hope that the bot can tell that he didn't intend to play jungle.
AJStarhiker1 votesYeah, I remember playing when it was duo top, adc mid, and no jungle.
And even after Jungle became its own thing, you usually saw duo tops in sub 20 levels, since they didn't have the runes/masteries to survive the jungle and top players didn't have the experience to solo--especially if the enemy team was running duo top.
Arammus1 votesshort answer: you dont.