people who refuse to surrender

chrysalisp0n3·Dec 15, 2015·4 votes·1,846 views

I really think Riot should have some type of punishment for people who refuse to surrender. I've seen and heard of major comebacks, but when "this one time" is 1 out of 100 or more games, it's legitimately not worth it in normals to keep playing. I was just in a game where we were down 4-35 in kills, we had 0 dragons, rift heralds, or barons, 0 towers, they were already taking our inhibitors, and 2 people kept refusing to surrender, and after I said "can you guys end this" in all chat the one person said "drag it out". At the very least, can Riot make it where if you vote no on surrender votes at least 90 some % of the time or vote no in a very high % of games that you ultimately lose, can those people's votes start not counting? Like a temporary voting restriction leading to a possible permanent one if they keep offending? I'm serious. This is a big problem in this game.

34 Comments

Makior72Dec 15, 201514 votes

A punishement for refusing to surrender? No.

I would like to see earlier surrender times however (15 mins?) since games are ending sooner.

Awkward CouchDec 15, 20151 votes

This, I totally agree with this.

ÇhåryzårdDec 15, 201510 votes

You can't punish people for wanting to try because YOU don't want to anymore.

3PowerDec 15, 20152 votes

Usually people don't surrender just to troll the people who do. It often has very little to do with their chances of winning the game.

ÇhåryzårdDec 18, 20152 votes

Really? Because in a majority of the games my team ends up not surrendering its because the game can go both ways or some of us think we still have a chance. I rarely find people who intentionally not surrender in order to piss people off. It really isn't a big problem and punishing people who want to continue trying is a terrible idea.

If they are intentionally feeding or being toxic you can report them for that. You can't install a report for people not wanting to surrender. If people are going to complain about others not surrendering why even play the game.

3PowerDec 19, 20152 votes

Really? Because in a majority of the games my team ends up not surrendering its because the game can go both ways or some of us think we still have a chance. I

I see, so in other words, you don't surrender when it makes no sense to surrender. Fantastic, I'm talking about lost causes. 50-20 scores, 3 dragons down, 1 inhibs + baron. Games that will end in 6 minutes whether you surrender or not. And games that make everyone who hit no look like an idiot when we lose anyway.

If people are going to complain about others not surrendering why even play the game.

Games are fun, massacres aren't.

NahuiDec 15, 20158 votes

It's a vote. A vote is a free choice. You can't punish someone for wanting to try to win. No game is irreversible. Not a single one.

10TicklerDec 15, 20157 votes

Here's how it is skippy jim. You want to troll me? Verbally harass me? Shit-talk me? Enjoy your loss, you've EARNED it. There will be no quick escape for you, because while you're dicking around and trolling like some kind of petulant child, I'm still trying to win, and trying counts. Since I know riot won't punish people like that, I will.

Deal.[slayer-jinx-unamused]

SeriphymDec 15, 20152 votes

^ This a thousand times over!

BrahmsauceDec 15, 20152 votes

I hate it when someone on my team does this, to spite another person on my team despite the other 3 of us being reasonable and nice the whole game.

10TicklerDec 15, 20151 votes

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I hate it when someone on my team does this, to spite another person on my team despite the other 3 of us being reasonable and nice the whole game.

Then why don't you put forth your hardest effort too, and Win the game DESPITE the troll, instead of losing the game BECAUSE of the troll?

3PowerDec 15, 20152 votes

See? This guy right here is called a trapper, and he's the reason for so much toxicity in league.

Riot does punish people like that. They punish people like that because you create toxic situations by prolonging games for your jollies. It's sad and juvenile.

Grow up.

10TicklerDec 15, 20152 votes

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See? This guy right here is called a trapper, and he's the reason for so much toxicity in league.

Riot does punish people like that. They punish people like that because you create toxic situations by prolonging games for your jollies. It's sad and juvenile.

Grow up.

Oh, you're right. Since I've been Blasted all game, for shit I can't control, I should just let the Toxic cesspool of a trolling teammate out of a game that much faster, so he can destroy someone else's game.

If I'm bad, then the person who's being trapped? A hundred times worse. I'm doing you, and your friends a favor, by keeping that moldy, stale player right where he/she/it/they are, in a game that they ruined and they need to see through

ÇhåryzårdDec 18, 20152 votes

It is good that you try and continue to play but just make sure you don't become toxic towards them yourself.

Reporting does help believe it or not. Already got the "this person has been punished" message after reporting a really toxic ashe who threw our entire game in a ranked (she actually would stand there, typing into chat how we all sucked and give the enemy blitz free easy grabs).

At the end of your game just report and trust me, people who are really toxic usually don't stop being toxic. They get punished eventually. Just make sure you aren't toxic back, because if they decide to send a report out of spite then you too could be looked at by the rito

DREADN0UGHTDec 15, 20156 votes

You lose a game the moment you give up on trying.

3PowerDec 15, 20152 votes

Actually you lose it the moment it becomes unwinnable. Once you reach that point, trying doesn't do jack.

kaleb bartlettDec 15, 20156 votes

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I really think Riot should have some type of punishment for people who refuse to surrender. I've seen and heard of major comebacks, but when "this one time" is 1 out of 100 or more games, it's legitimately not worth it in normals to keep playing. I was just in a game where we were down 4-35 in kills, we had 0 dragons, rift heralds, or barons, 0 towers, they were already taking our inhibitors, and 2 people kept refusing to surrender, and after I said "can you guys end this" in all chat the one person said "drag it out". At the very least, can Riot make it where if you vote no on surrender votes at least 90 some % of the time or vote no in a very high % of games that you ultimately lose, can those people's votes start not counting? Like a temporary voting restriction leading to a possible permanent one if they keep offending? I'm serious. This is a big problem in this game.

Just because YOU think it's over doesn't mean it IS over. Until that nexus blows up there is always the chance that you can make a comeback. People get cocky in this game and I've won many games because their whole team fountain dives because they think they have the win, and we end up punishing them for it, or we managed to win a couple of team fights.

While it is true that a lot of the time you will lose those games you get behind in, that's no reason to just say 'gg it's over, surrender'. The instant you just start spamming surrender votes, and quit trying to do as much as you can is the moment you chose to lose.

Mat7itanDec 15, 20155 votes

A punishment for refusing to surrender? Can we get a punishment for people who complain that their team doesn't want to surrender? If you don't want to play the game then don't que up. It's a very easy fix.

3PowerDec 15, 20152 votes

There's a difference between wanting to play and wanting to fight a hopeless battle. Even chess players FF when it's obvious one has won.

SmokedAlmondsDec 15, 20154 votes

When to surrender is completely personal preference. It is a vote for a reason.

While I very much am on the side of its often worth it to cut your losses and get on to a new game. I don't think its reasonable to expect everyone to do the same. Some people would rather fight for that 1% chance every time and there is nothing wrong with that.

3PowerDec 15, 20151 votes

There's plenty wrong with that. It's delusional and unrealistic.

Irene LeeDec 15, 20153 votes

Well, I don't think that's a good idea, to be honest. What if you have the worst damn luck and have to surrender 90% of your games. O_o

Ex. A Galio main. Galio

AerilusDec 15, 20152 votes

There should just be a feature to surrendering that if the one team has say 40% more gold after 15 minutes in, that it only takes 2-3 players to surrender rather than 4. This would prevent most cases of abuse and prevent games from dragging out when one side already won.

NOT LIKE THlSDec 15, 20152 votes

This is illogical as saying I would report you for being in Silver 5 cuz u has no brain. jk I respect silver, but this thread is not reasonable.

jussybbyDec 15, 20152 votes

If you want to rant about surrendering why waste your time playing?

Samus72Dec 15, 20151 votes

A punishment for refusing to surrender?

Don't ever play a game with me. I don't even vote.

JRobin31Jan 6, 20161 votes

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A punishment for refusing to surrender?

Don't ever play a game with me. I don't even vote.

I think we need an option to disable the surrender vote from popping up on the HUD. Some of us don't vote or always vote NO. And even if I voted YES, I wouldn't want the surrender vote popping up on my HUD ever.

PuynsiDec 15, 20151 votes

"punishment for people who refuse to surrender". Even if you had one troll it won't matter since it will be irrelevant if 4 people agree, if more than 2 people are trying to come back you should stop going full dorans blade and pull your shit together.

AqamdaxDec 16, 20151 votes

I don't think voting no should be punished, but i DO think that it would be good to surrender if majority decides to do so. If 3 vote yes I think the game should be over. Now we need 4 to vote yes. Also the time to start the vote should be earlier. 15 mins for example. Games are shorter now, and in some horrible games either team might get fed very early and you end up 25-3 in kills before 15 mins.

xRalinxDec 16, 20151 votes

Honestly if your going to surrender before the nexus tower is down i set up a block you instantly rather than hear you flame about "why no FF" People do it all the time, get cocky throw games, anyone who's in the mind set its over just ff don't have a chance anyways have fun being mad at the game more than you play it.[zombie-brand-clap]

blkh1Dec 18, 20151 votes

I have surrendered. I have even started surrender votes. I don't rage at people in the game because they won't. I know people say that time is precious and you should just let the game die and get into a new one. Sometimes though you just want to gut it out. In the end this is nothing about raging due to someone either voting for or against surrendering. This goes into the same category with raging of any sort. Let people play the game. Everyone cares to varying degrees. You are choosing to play a game that involves other people. Social skills are dying. Just let it go.

YoshiReaperDec 18, 20151 votes

There's no punishment for determination just saying [zombie-brand-clap]

themachampJan 6, 20161 votes

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I really think Riot should have some type of punishment for people who refuse to surrender. I've seen and heard of major comebacks, but when "this one time" is 1 out of 100 or more games, it's legitimately not worth it in normals to keep playing. I was just in a game where we were down 4-35 in kills, we had 0 dragons, rift heralds, or barons, 0 towers, they were already taking our inhibitors, and 2 people kept refusing to surrender, and after I said "can you guys end this" in all chat the one person said "drag it out". At the very least, can Riot make it where if you vote no on surrender votes at least 90 some % of the time or vote no in a very high % of games that you ultimately lose, can those people's votes start not counting? Like a temporary voting restriction leading to a possible permanent one if they keep offending? I'm serious. This is a big problem in this game.

lol, voting is our right. ~99% of the time i vote no. :)

emanon dupitsJul 20, 20181 votes

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I really think Riot should have some type of punishment for people who refuse to surrender. I've seen and heard of major comebacks, but when "this one time" is 1 out of 100 or more games, it's legitimately not worth it in normals to keep playing. I was just in a game where we were down 4-35 in kills, we had 0 dragons, rift heralds, or barons, 0 towers, they were already taking our inhibitors, and 2 people kept refusing to surrender, and after I said "can you guys end this" in all chat the one person said "drag it out". At the very least, can Riot make it where if you vote no on surrender votes at least 90 some % of the time or vote no in a very high % of games that you ultimately lose, can those people's votes start not counting? Like a temporary voting restriction leading to a possible permanent one if they keep offending? I'm serious. This is a big problem in this game.

riot not going to fix, so simply stop spending money on riot and their products