Silver 5 on main acc matched against diamonds and plats then banned for "inting"

IRight ArmI··3 votes·2,009 views

Hi,

I have been getting matched against diamonds and plats on my main acc for the past 3 days and all those games I keep getting reported for inting. I'm trying to play the game but obviously as a silver I can't beat a diamond and they will camp me to no end. Every time I try to fight them I die. So why is this allowed? Why am I forced to be matched against these high elo players and then forced into a ban because I can't do well? Ofc I ask my team for help but they trash talk me and report me instead of trying to help me with the game. My main acc is fresh silver 5 and I've been in low bronze for 3 years I think.

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Jo0o9 votes

Any cause you might have had for the board regulars to upvote and support this thread is evaporating rapidly as long as you keep insulting people for pointing out oddities and asking questions.

Your excuse that you were outplayed by higher-ranking people doesn't seem to hold up. High-ranking opponents only show up in two of the four games offered, and in neither of those games was that opponent the one laning against you or carrying against your team.

The Shen game seems like the biggest offender of the bunch. Taking Shen mid in the first place is a questionable choice, but you then proceed to start dagger/refillable and rush straight for Swiftness boots, a bizarre choice that I don't see reflected in your other games. Dying a whopping 19 times, only getting 89 cs in a 35 minute game, and building in a way that I can honestly say I've never seen a Shen built all push the narrative that you were intentionally throwing that game.

Secondly, the Hecarim game. I can't comment on bringing Hec to the bot lane due to how weird botlane meta is right now, but again, you rush swiftness boots, get almost zero damage/cs, and die about as often as one could within the allotted time. The fact that you purchased a ruby crystal after your t2 boots, then sold it to purchase a Zeal, suggests troll-building. Your support only died twice, suggesting you were fighting well out of his range, since in a 2v2 all-in situation Ivern lacks escapes and would likely have a hard time surviving what a Hecarim couldn't. He also dealt nearly twice your damage to champions, despite being a support Ivern.

I don't see much wrong with the other two games. Maybe you inted one kill in them. Maybe you were just reported for them and they were included in your card, while the Hec and Shen games were 99.9% of the reason for your suspension.

If you truly maintain your innocence, submit a respectful support ticket and get an explanation and second opinion. Feel free to share the result of that ticket with this thread.

IRight ArmI1 votes

I thought normal games were a place to try new things. Shendamere mid.

Jo0o6 votes

Is that seriously the best response you can come up with? A half-assed single-line that ignores almost everything I pointed out?

You've chosen a poor way of demonstrating your innocence. Good luck after your justified two-week ban.

IRight ArmI2 votes

This proves you're just trying to be an asshole. I'm reporting you for harassment.

Jo0o4 votes

You have been given ample opportunity to demonstrate any evidence in support of your innocence and have failed to do so. You're also insulting anybody who points this out, to the point of already having your posts moderated multiple times, and this thread is clearly about to get locked due to your clear lack of interest in an actual discussion. I sincerely wonder why, in light of all this, you'd think I should be afraid of you reporting me for harassment.

IRight ArmI1 votes

That's quite blatantly false actually I've given every shred of evidence and all you say is oh I'm not going to accept what you said. Keep harrassing me you'll see what happens.

Jo0o5 votes

I specifically told you the correct course of action in my first response:

If you truly maintain your innocence, submit a respectful support ticket and get an explanation and second opinion. Feel free to share the result of that ticket with this thread.

Repeating "Shendamere" like it's supposed to mean something isn't providing evidence, especially since you yourself are a Tryndamere player and never build that way as tryndamere.

The Nocturne God6 votes

In 20 games you were matched against only 2 diamonds, both diamond 5s. Didn't look into them, but if they are smurfs then their normals mmr is gonna be low. On this account I'm p3 with d5 mmr in ranked but have like g5 mmr in norms.

In 20 games you were matched with 5 plats... mostly p5/p4.

The vast majority of people in your games are bronze/silver... i see your match making as a non issue. On my main account I get matched with mostly diamomds and in my last 12 norms had 5 silver players, but every time was from being in a premade. If 95% of the people in yiur normal game is around your rank then I don't see the problem.

Would like to see the reform card though, since any time I do get silver or golds in my norms they are super toxic and expect to be able to play like absolute garbage while trash talking and stil be carried because the ranks of the rest of us.

IRight ArmI1 votes

Ofc I'm not going to be matched every game I would just quit if that happened.

reform card

http://wygd2.weebly.com/uploads/2/6/1/2/26120119/5_orig.png

The Nocturne God5 votes

That shen game you straight up inted, no matter what excuse you have of not knowing the champion. You also fed the unranked vel, not the d5 udyr. The hecarim game is suspicious too, but I'd have to see the gameplay to know for sure, but that game is pretty much all silvers, just that 1 gold 5.

IRight ArmI1 votes

<Removed by Moderation> You've clearly had your mind made up before you read my post and once someones mind is made up it's impossible to change. All you want to do is hate on my thread and disbelieve me so you can feel better about yourself and feel power.

Screw you I'm tired of being outcasted by communities this happens in real life too I'm so sick of it.

Vel'koz is a damn silver 2 btw. And I have no idea how to play shen.

This whole damn boards community is built around upvoting people like you I see it everywhere. Go bother someone elses thread I'm actually trying to get some help here.

AnAggravatedPimp3 votes

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You're just being an asshole now. You've clearly had your mind made up before you read my post and once someones mind is made up it's impossible to change. All you want to do is hate on my thread and disbelieve me so you can feel better about yourself and feel power.

Screw you I'm tired of being outcasted by communities this happens in real life too I'm so sick of it.

Vel'koz is a damn silver 2 btw. And I have no idea how to play shen.

This whole damn boards community is built around upvoting people like you I see it everywhere. Go bother someone elses thread I'm actually trying to get some help here.

Aaaaaand there goes the rage. Wonder why you got banned, breh?

IRight ArmI1 votes

I've reported the both of you for harrassment.

AnAggravatedPimp5 votes

[{quoted}](name=IRight ArmI,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=raxXXAI2,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-18T20:12:45.367+0000)

I've reported the both of you for harrassment.

The dude gave you what you asked. They said normal MMR and ranked MMR are separate and that's why you play vs higher elo players, especially seeing as they are in the 4/5s of their ladder.

They said that the only game theyd accuse you of inting in would be the Shen game and that you just fed Vel, no mention of intentionally feeding, and that they couldn't draw a conclusion on the Hecarim match without seeing game play.

You're so quick to go on the defensive that you ignore any advice that's trying to help you if it's even the tiniest bit critical of you. So feel free to be angry, report me all you like. I don't particularly care because I've never been banned, never been warned and I know how to control myself when someone disagrees with me.

IRight ArmI1 votes

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AnAggravatedPimp4 votes

[{quoted}](name=IRight ArmI,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=raxXXAI2,comment-id=000500000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-18T20:25:42.280+0000)

You're both harassing me even if you "gave me what I want" you didn't though I'm just saying. Also I aint no bitch like all the honor 5s on the boards which is why I'm reacting like this. I'm going to defend myself.

Dude you take life way to seriously if you think not being a bitch means raging at random person over a lost match in a video game, then raging a people you don't know for calling you out. Hell you tried to snitch by reporting us and I guess that was a threat but it's a poor one.

Seriously breh, go outside. Kick a ball.

IRight ArmI1 votes

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AnAggravatedPimp2 votes

[{quoted}](name=IRight ArmI,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=raxXXAI2,comment-id=00050000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-18T20:37:18.240+0000)

Not being a bitch is not being a pussy boards honor 5 that exposes their belly to anyone that judges them so they can get their thread upvoted.

Didn't I just tell you to go outside? That ball will not kick itself

LittleOak1 votes

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Didn't I just tell you to go outside? That ball will not kick itself

xD

Aneirin3 votes
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Since you're responding this way to anyone who disagrees with you it's obvious you only came here for validation, not discussion. There's no point me giving my thoughts here as you'll just resort to name-calling like you have with anyone else who didn't tell you what you wanted to hear.

The Nocturne God2 votes

[{quoted}](name=IRight ArmI,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=raxXXAI2,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2018-07-18T20:05:24.143+0000)

<Removed by Moderation> You've clearly had your mind made up before you read my post and once someones mind is made up it's impossible to change. All you want to do is hate on my thread and disbelieve me so you can feel better about yourself and feel power.

Screw you I'm tired of being outcasted by communities this happens in real life too I'm so sick of it.

Vel'koz is a damn silver 2 btw. And I have no idea how to play shen.

This whole damn boards community is built around upvoting people like you I see it everywhere. Go bother someone elses thread I'm actually trying to get some help here.

If my mind was already made up I wouldn't have spent the time going through all of your last 20 normal games. I looked into it and strongly believe you inted and are now making up excuses. When I get home I'll pull the replay and I'm expecting to see you pretty much running it down mid inting.

ModThe Djinn4 votes

You wouldn't be banned for inting for simply poor performance. If you have been, I'd be interested in seeing your match history, and I'd recommend sending a ticket in to Player Support.

The reports don't matter if you haven't actually been inting though, so don't worry about that if you're just afraid of reports accruing against you.

IRight ArmI1 votes

Why did I get matched with a plat on my lvl 11 smurf?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-QjbvnFU6I

ModThe Djinn1 votes

[{quoted}](name=IRight ArmI,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=raxXXAI2,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-07-19T22:47:09.688+0000)

Why did I get matched with a plat on my lvl 11 smurf?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-QjbvnFU6I

Well, it's a normal game (your normal MMR is separate from your ranked MMR), the players on his/your team are all lower level than the players on the other team except for him, he's queuing with a buddy (which always really throws off MMR), and that team's estimated team MMR is actually lower than the enemy team's, according to LoLNexus.

So it really looks like match-making took an awful situation (a Plat duo-ing with a new or smurfing friend) and tried to find the best game it could given that situation. As long as a Plat CAN duo with a new or awful player this sort of thing will happen occasionally.

Aneirin4 votes
Silent Gravity1 votes

That looks excessively bad.

The Nocturne God3 votes

Op.gg link for proof of being matched with diamonds as silver 5? This ranked or norms?

Love Anastasia2 votes

I Believe him. Im Plat 2 at Flex queue and ive being matched against challenger #8 (Challenger at flex, not at solo queue)

The match making is crazy atm, must be because people is stoppiing playing this game

IRight ArmI1 votes

I'm prob not the only one going to get banned then. Probabaly more people will get banned when matched like this.

IRight ArmI1 votes

Wonder who Riot is sending in to downvotw us for trying to spread awareness of this issue with matchmaking.

IRight ArmI1 votes

Norms

Check my norms games for last 3 days. It's also plats too.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Markus+Kruber

I'll be posting pictures too.

Frontline Fury1 votes

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Norms

Check my norms games for last 3 days. It's also plats too.

http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Markus+Kruber

I'll be posting pictures too.

The only game i can spot that qualifies for "inting" is the very last one you played where you for some reason went attack speed/crit shen mid and got outdamaged by literally everybody in the entire game including your soraka support.

There's one diamond player, and that is the enemy udyr (who also seems to be a smurf, likely high diamond or even master tier.)

Could you post a screenshot of your reform card (that pops up when you log in) or your e-mail from riot customer support?

IRight ArmI1 votes

Shen looks like trynd I thought he could build those items.

AeroWaffle5 votes

You're level 60 on that account. You've been in enough matches that I doubt you were ignorant of what type of champion Shen is.

IRight ArmI1 votes

I've played him before yeah. Last time was 2 or 3 years ago and I did it 5 times max.

AeroWaffle5 votes

I'm not even talking about how often you've played him. You've likely been in enough matches with him on your team and against him on the opposing team to know the basics of how he operates and his role. You would also have had to completely ignore the recommended items that Riot gives you for you to go on your build path, despite your inexperience with him.

Your claim that you were building Shen like how you were building Trynd doesn't hold water either as you built Rageblade, something that I don't see you building on Trynd in your match history even once.

There are just too many things for me to question for me to believe your story.

IRight ArmI1 votes

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AeroWaffle6 votes

I'm forming my opinion with the information that I have access to. Insults are a great way to eliminate any empathy people might have that this ban could have been a mistake.

IRight ArmI1 votes

I'm gona act this way because this happens to me in real life.

LittleOak4 votes

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Shen looks like trynd I thought he could build those items.

This response just made my eyeballs bleed. You've been playing since season 5 man. I've played for less time and I know that's the most absurd excuse you could have given.

There are plenty of sites that would tell you how to properly build on a champion other than a FrostPrime video from 2014.

IRight ArmI1 votes

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LittleOak4 votes

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This is what I'm talking about. The boards is built around bias. No matter what I tell you your puny mind is made up.

I looked at your op.gg ; I think that's the only game you inted man. I don't have a bias, I felt bad for you until I read that comment. Thank you for commenting on my puny mind. I appreciated it. Enjoy your ban.

IRight ArmI1 votes

Hecarim game I got bad score. Shen game voli and I got bad score. You only looked at what you wanted to see.

LittleOak2 votes

[{quoted}](name=IRight ArmI,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=raxXXAI2,comment-id=00000001000000010001000000000000,timestamp=2018-07-18T20:31:59.463+0000)

Hecarim game I got bad score. Shen game voli and I got bad score. You only looked at what you wanted to see.

Bud, I looked through all your matches over the last 20 games, same as everyone else who said they did. 0/7 Hecarim game imo isn't bannable. Clearly, I wasn't in the game, but I've played bad games as well every now and then. It happens. You had 7 deaths and contributed to 33% of the enemy team's kills. That's not terrible in a 5 person game.

In the Shen game, you had 19 deaths, contributing to a 58% enemy team's total kills. In a 5 person game, this is an extreme. All your other games are fine, and people have off days. It's okay.

Honestly, if I were to give you my honest opinion: your only issue is you don't know how to build on champions you don't play and if/when you get behind on them, you stop building correctly, and just build crit which isn't a viable strategy.

I don't understand why you're trying to prove you had a bad game with Hecarim too when I am saying your only reportable game is the Shen one.. O_o

IRight ArmI1 votes

It's a new build idea didn't think that would be an issue in norms.

ModThe Djinn3 votes

Just a heads up to everyone -- there's some borderline to past-the-border behavior in this thread, and we always prefer to not have to step in. Everyone please remember to treat each other respectfully even in disagreement and, if you feel the urge to mock, belittle, or insult someone, just take a step away from the keyboard for a few minutes instead.

IRight ArmI1 votes

I'd like to point out I am not the only one doing very poorly in these games as you can see volibear and I struggled both in this game

http://wygd2.weebly.com/uploads/2/6/1/2/26120119/1_orig.png

annie and kindred and I

http://wygd2.weebly.com/uploads/2/6/1/2/26120119/2_orig.png

basically our whole team

http://wygd2.weebly.com/uploads/2/6/1/2/26120119/4_orig.png

MrHaZeYo1 votes

What are those builds lol. Shen mid? I've seen that 1 time in 5 years and 5k+ games, it didn't fare well.

Does your other account get stupid matchmaking like this too?

IRight ArmI1 votes

Shendamere mid was just an idea. This acc gets matched with smurfs but that's to br expected.

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