Which of these sentences are toxic and report able if any?

HelpOrIFeed··1 votes·979 views

Yes/No for each:

  1. could you please stop feeding?

  2. could you please stop trolling?

  3. could you please stop being stupid/retarded/ignorant/brainless?

  4. could please you stop farming and gank?

  5. could you please just AFK so you don't feed?

  6. could please get out of my lane?

  7. could you please fuck/piss off?

  8. could you please stop farming and attack the enemy?

  9. could you please stop farming and gank my lane?

  10. could you please uninstall the game?

  11. could you please just play coop vs ai from now on until you learn the game?

  12. could you please just kill yourself?

21 Comments

Cynikul5 votes

{quoted}

Yes/No for each:

  1. could you please stop feeding? Word for word, no
  2. could you please stop trolling? Word for word, no
  3. could you please stop being stupid/retarded/ignorant/brainless? Word for word,, yes
  4. could please you stop farming and gank? Word for word, no
  5. could you please just AFK so you don't feed? Word for word, yes
  6. could please get out of my lane? Depends
  7. could you please fuck/piss off? Word for word, yes
  8. could you please stop farming and attack the enemy? Word for word, no
  9. could you please stop farming and gank my lane? Word for word, no
  10. could you please uninstall the game? Word for word, yes
  11. could you please just play coop vs ai from now on until you learn the game? Depends
  12. could you please just kill yourself? Word for word, yes

Ok now to clarify. Saying "could you please" doesnt make any one of those lines less toxic or vulgar. Remove them and they are almost the same, just in a more passive tone. But if you remove them and look at 3, 5, 7, 10, and 12 you're left with;

3.) Stop being retarded (toxic, hate speech as well (disabilities)) 5.) AFK so you don't feed (toxic) 7.) Fuck off (toxic, might actually get away with this one though) 10.) Uninstall the game (toxic) 12.) Just kill yourself (SUPER toxic)

Those literally do not sound any better with could you please, so they're just as toxic with or without.

AeroWaffle5 votes

I'm not going to give a simple "Yes/No" for them, but I'll give my opinion on the statements themselves.

  1. Not helpful and rude (seriously. Telling them to "stop feeding" is not actually helping them to stop feeding if they're doing it unintentionally).

  2. Not helpful and rude (it's especially rude if they believe that they aren't trolling)

  3. Not helpful and rude

  4. It's fine so long as you haven't been continuing to badger them. They are in control of their actions in the game.

  5. Not helpful and rude (you're telling them to not play).

  6. It's fine so long as you haven't been continuing to badger them. They are in control of their actions in the game.

  7. Not helpful and very rude.

  8. It's fine so long as you haven't been continuing to badger them. They are in control of their actions in the game.

  9. You already had this one

  10. Not helpful and very rude

  11. Not helpful and very rude

  12. Not helpful and extremely rude.

Etyron1 votes

I dissagree with the first one, When i start playing and i was feeding i was so stressed and didn’t pay attention and if they say stop feeding i would look at how they play and play safer. The way he brings it over could be better but the way you handle critism is also important even if it is rude

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

All of them, depending on context. Some more than others. A few of those are going to be instant banhammer smite regardless of what else is said or done.

The system is not some runescape-tier chat filter - it keeps track of the general usage and attitude of the player as well as it can, flaming, insults, or negative behavior that is going to make someone play worse is pretty reliably detected.

HelpOrIFeed1 votes

{quoted} is pretty reliably detected.

I guess it would be pretty reliable if EVERYTHING you say is considered toxic. Kind of hard to fail when nothing is considered non-toxic.

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

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I guess it would be pretty reliable if EVERYTHING you say is considered toxic. Kind of hard to fail when nothing is considered non-toxic.

Basically everyone one of those things is potential harassment of a teammate, although the most mild like 4 could also be constructive, if a little more polite and not spammed/mixed with other shit.

dev1lstarr1 votes

And this is exactly why the chat feature is completely pointless if 90% of chat is considered toxic. What value does it add to the game at all if there has to be an entire system for this? (Hint: there is no value) There is an established ping system, why not just remove the chat, then? The current situation provides a vehicle for people to start arguments, which, by this standard, gets them banned. So again, what's the actual point of the chat, then???

MagicFlyingLlama2 votes

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And this is exactly why the chat feature is completely pointless if 90% of chat is considered toxic. What value does it add to the game at all if there has to be an entire system for this? (Hint: there is no value) There is an established ping system, why not just remove the chat, then? The current situation provides a vehicle for people to start arguments, which, by this standard, gets them banned. So again, what's the actual point of the chat, then???

I dont know, have you ever considered not being toxic?

I certaintly dont have any issues giving constructive feedback, discussing strategy with my team or shitposting in /all, but then again i am not a passive-aggressive little shit that just wants to criticize and flame everyone, despite how much i actually do want to do that sometimes.

dev1lstarr1 votes

I don't know, have you ever considered reading comprehension?

In my post, I specifically quote that the majority percentage of chat is considered toxic, even to the point of arguing a simple point sans pejoratives of any sort. You ran straight past that and assume that your version of "constructive feedback" is different than someone else's.

Lastly, you go straight into assuming all toxicity is done via passive-aggressive means (or you are just passive-aggressively telling me that I'm a "little shit" and breaking your own rule).

You are awarded no points, and thank you for clarifying my point.

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

{quoted}

I don't know, have you ever considered reading comprehension?

In my post, I specifically quote that the majority percentage of chat is considered toxic, even to the point of arguing a simple point sans pejoratives of any sort. You ran straight past that and assume that your version of "constructive feedback" is different than someone else's.

Lastly, you go straight into assuming all toxicity is done via passive-aggressive means (or you are just passive-aggressively telling me that I'm a "little shit" and breaking your own rule).

You are awarded no points, and thank you for clarifying my point.

That is ok, i am not trying to win anything here.

Refusing to accept things wont make them go away, or change them for anyone else. Reality is not subjective.

dev1lstarr1 votes

"That is ok, I am not trying to win anything here"

That's what people who know they've lost say. LOL. Nice try. Reality is not black and white, despite what you think.

MagicFlyingLlama1 votes

{quoted}

"That is ok, I am not trying to win anything here"

That's what people who know they've lost say. LOL. Nice try. Reality is not black and white, despite what you think.

Ok, you win something. Give me an address to mail your ego points to.

It still stands, only a tiny percentage of people get chat restrictions. This is indisputable.

If you are getting one every time you chat, it is a problem with you, not the system. Also indisputable.

I am not here to win or lose, just state facts - you are nobody, with zero impact on my life or importance, and i hope the reverse is true as well - does it matter what i think about you?

dev1lstarr1 votes

{quoted}

Ok, you win something. Give me an address to mail your ego points to.

It still stands, only a tiny percentage of people get chat restrictions. This is indisputable.

If you are getting one every time you chat, it is a problem with you, not the system. Also indisputable.

I am not here to win or lose, just state facts - you are nobody, with zero impact on my life or importance, and i hope the reverse is true as well - does it matter what i think about you?

I am nobody and have no impact, yet you're still here, responding. Sounds like you waste time trying to be right. It's ok, keep your "ego points" for yourself. You clearly need them.

Dolyna1 votes

{quoted}

  1. could you please stop feeding?

No, not by itself.

  1. could you please stop trolling?

No, not by itself.

  1. could you please stop being stupid/retarded/ignorant/brainless?

Yes.

  1. could please you stop farming and gank?

No, not by itself.

  1. could you please just AFK so you don't feed?

Yes.

  1. could please get out of my lane?

No, not by itself.

  1. could you please fuck/piss off?

Yes.

  1. could you please stop farming and attack the enemy?

No.

  1. could you please stop farming and gank my lane?

No.

  1. could you please uninstall the game?

Yes.

  1. could you please just play coop vs ai from now on until you learn the game?

Yes.

  1. could you please just kill yourself?

Yes. Say hello to a two week suspension. (Or permaban, if you've already had one of those.)

dev1lstarr1 votes

I am an absolute opponent of the instant feedback system and the reporting system in general. It punishes people for nothing, and rewards bullies. Example: I have seen it a million times where a person with completely toxic language (homophobia, slurs, swears) gets away with chatting using those terms, yet doesn't get punished. They get the team to bully a player for feeding or something they don't like, and so everyone reports the person getting bullied, and the victim is the one punished. It's absolute horror. I'm actually dealing with it now, surprise surprise. I am VERY unhappy with this system, and I think it's hurting the game more than helping it. With all that said, I don't understand the point AT ALL of chat if this is the sort of thing you get banned for . My $.02

Telephone Booth1 votes

There are more factors involved as to whether you could be punished or not, so we need to start with an assumption. I will use the assumption that each of these sentences are the ONLY thing you said in game. Because of course, if someone responds, your response to that is very crucial in whether you get punished or not.

So, assuming this is the only sentence said in game;

  1. no
  2. no
  3. yes
  4. no
  5. yes
  6. no
  7. yes
  8. no
  9. no
  10. yes
  11. yes
  12. yes

Just want to add, this is a bad way of determining whether you will get punished or not. It's all about continuing an argument and taking focus away from the task at hand. If someone responds and you start arguing with them, every one of these sentences could lead to a punishment, but that means it's more than just the sentence, that got you punished.

Nalisai1 votes

3, 5, 7, 10, 12 - Yes. The rest out of context are no, but Riot says that anything that makes you not enjoy your experience in game is technically a good report (within reason). Of course, if you're actually doing something to warrant the comment, you may be bringing the hammer down on yourself too.

fatherdarius1 votes

{quoted}

Yes/No for each:

  1. could you please stop feeding?

Yes (they may suck and aren't trying to feed)

  1. could you please stop trolling?

No (if someone is trolling there's nothing wrong with asking them to stop)

  1. could you please stop being stupid/retarded/ignorant/brainless?

Yes

  1. could please you stop farming and gank?

Yes - don't tell someone else how to play. Play your own lane. If they aren't ganking play safe.

  1. could you please just AFK so you don't feed?

Yes

  1. could please get out of my lane?

No (players go to whichever lane they want, you don't own the lane so sorry mate k thx bai)

  1. could you please fuck/piss off?

Among friends and said with a smiley face, no. Among strangers, YES, toxic.

  1. could you please stop farming and attack the enemy?

Yes - see #4

  1. could you please stop farming and gank my lane?

Yes - see #4

  1. could you please uninstall the game?

Yes - unless you're the sysadmin and employee installed the game on a work computer without permission.

  1. could you please just play coop vs ai from now on until you learn the game?

Yes, but only mildly.

  1. could you please just kill yourself?

Yes.

Noob2x1 votes

3, 7, 10, 12

Etyron1 votes
  1. betrer say stop playing so aggresive/ stop diving in

  2. or they know they are trolling or they have no clue or she/he is just an asshole

  3. just mute the toxic player

  4. no if you say that you are the weak one in the game it is not the jungles job to win lane it is your job (a good jungler helps a winning lane not a losing lane)

  5. sometimes it is better like when the person is lagging a lot and feed by that reson

  6. yeah you have the right to ask that

  7. no use if you need to say that it is probably a stuburn child who is an asshole

  8. depends sometimes farming is better so you get ahead of the enemey team also depends on the champ and teamcomposition

  9. same as number 4

  10. i do get why people say that but like if you say such things and rage and being toxic than it is for your team and for you less fun also you won’t be playing as good in your next game

  11. no i did it also for a long time (stop playing pvp and first learn vs bots) hell i even played custom game 3vs5 bots or 5vs5 with the enemy bots all intermediat and mine beginner Bots is a good way to learn how to farm and gank and get faster gold and items and play a bit more solo and pvp you learn more how to play in a team

  12. yeah don’t say that

  1. You never know if someone close to him killed him/herself
  2. If it is an asshole and he is making you rage he just enjoy it that you say that and you will get banned for it

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