can refusing to group on purpose actually be punished harder?

Essychu·6/25/2017, 6:28:57 AM·3 votes·407 views

2nd game now where we have an even game but since our draven is 1-6 he refuses to help us fight them at baron when we chunk them and ping it for 20 seconds.

hes farming in the top lane as they do it for 20 seconds straight as we ping spam him.

he DIDNT want to win.

end score comes hes 1-8 and i cant report him because he didnt flame.

he just didnt group but since he didnt type its not detectable or punishable.

edit: just getting downvoted by aram only players makes my day.

you have no clue what its like to lose a 40 minute ranked game because ur adc is a waste of life that doesnt want to amount to anything both irl or in game.

his ego dictates that if hes behind everyone else has to pay for it. "bad game"

6 Comments

Damagefox6/25/2017, 7:26:06 AM2 votes

I can see why he didnt want to group with someone like you. Just from your statement. You sound like the type who will sit there and degrade your teammates, talking down to them and degrading them, and then expect them to help you on the crack of a whip?

Nah, If my teammates spend the entire game degrading and insulting me, I have NO obligation to group with them. Thats not trolling Thats me saying I wont be your little verbal doormat just so you can get your rocks off and feel good about yourself.

If you flame and degrade, insult and demean your team, then you deserve to lose. Its the natural consequence. You sit there calling people "Waste of life". Oh but I bet you would have no problems meeting the person face to face and telling them how much of a "Waste of life" they are. Because you are so much better.

TL:DR: -You flame and degrade your team, tear them down and degrade them, they are under no obligation to assist you (would you HONESTLY want to help someone who spends the entire game telling you How "Garbage" you are, repeatedly calling you trash, then demanding you come help them ON COMMAND?) You earned your loss, its a natural consequence.

VoraciousX6/25/2017, 8:26:44 AM1 votes

There are situations within reason where you DON'T need to group, and just need to splitpush. If they have a better teamfight, or if you know you're just gonna die if you're there, it can be better to splitpush. But considering it was a behind Draven splitpushing solo, I think that was just a bad choice. But I will say I've had a lot of situations where people just make a bad choice trying to stop the enemy team from doing baron but there's just no way you can and then they get an ace and a baron on top of that. Sometimes it's better to just farm it out and try to make it to late game, depending on who's on your team and who's on theirs.

Silent Gravity6/25/2017, 8:47:04 AM1 votes

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as we ping spam him

That may be your problem right there. There's this new functionality where a player can mute pings. This is intended as a defense against ping-spam. If you ping spammed earlier in the match, there's a good chance that they ping-muted you.

adc is a waste of life that doesnt want to amount to anything both irl or in game.

You say that you didn't flame a single person (in your reply to DamageFox) but this sentence seems to come out so easily, that I think you may be mistaken about how hostile you appear to others.

he DIDNT want to win.

Ping-spam and toxic chat both tilt your team and reduce your chances of winning. I think it could be you that took action to prove that you didn't want to win.

his ego dictates that if hes behind everyone else has to pay for it.

And it looks like you tried to make him pay for it. What role did ego play in your actions?