Bans are too harsh, we need a better system.

Balsha·Feb 17, 2016·6 votes·1,384 views

Instead of permanently banning toxic players, wouldn't it be more genuine to take away their chatting privileges for an entire season? Some of these people invested time and money on their accounts despite their behavior they are people too. We're talking about hundreds of dollars on skins and champions that they will lose forever due to a bad day. I've seen friends go through a depression because of losing something they've worked on for years all because they had a bad day. Let's face it this offense tribunal system is not perfect by any means and is frankly biased if you get reported by a group of friends out of spite.

29 Comments

BeatzBoyFTWFeb 17, 201610 votes

They were already given chat restrictions & 14 days suspensions as their 2nd chance. It's their fault that they refuse to change their behavior overtime.

DrCyanideFeb 17, 20168 votes

Instead of permanently banning toxic players, wouldn't it be more genuine to take away their chatting privileges for an entire season?

You mean the system we had before, where people kept getting hundreds or thousands of games of chat restrictions and didn't change at all? I think the boat has sailed on that one, it didn't work.

Awkward CouchFeb 17, 20164 votes

Don't you just miss Season 2? /s

darkmatchwaldoFeb 17, 20168 votes

They deserve to lose the account they've spent hundreds of dollars on. Riot has every right to ban someone from the game who's violating rules repeatedly. Nobody just gets straight up banned from the game. They got at least one warning to quit their toxic behavior or they would lose their account and they failed to stop being toxic. It's not a "bad day" it's a series of constant verbal abuse and other extremely negative behaviors.

Void NargacugaFeb 17, 20163 votes

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Nobody just gets straight up banned from the game.

Look up XJ9... He is NEVER allowed to make a League of Legends account ever again. And for good reason.

Awkward CouchFeb 17, 20161 votes

To be fair though, so was 1ncarnat0n (known as Jensen the mid laner for C9 in case you or other people who read this didn't know) was supposed to have all of his accounts banned on sight due to him DDOSing other players. And now he's in the LCS. XJ9 should stay banned though, while he may have been a great jungler, what he did was inexcusable.

Void NargacugaFeb 17, 20161 votes

Did not know that about 1ncarnaton (darn L33T spelling making hard). Interesting fact! And kinda pathetic considering that he plays in LCS now... Kinda weird imo. But yeah XJ9 was inexcusable.

Awkward CouchFeb 17, 20161 votes

Apperently it's just Incarnation, is his main, L33T speak is one of his smurfs. I also can't do L33T speak to save my life. Here is an article about his ban getting lifted in case you're interested.

Void NargacugaFeb 17, 20161 votes

Odd coincidence on the L33T name considering I was just mentioning the "language"... Don't worry, neither can I. But sometimes I can read it somewhat easily at times. Not sure if that is a bad thing or a good thing yet.

after reading the whole article Wow, that is some crazy stuff! Some good and some bad. But that is one HELL of a reform!

darkmatchwaldoFeb 17, 20162 votes

You're misinterpreting what i was trying to say. I meant that nobody just gets banned because they had a bad game and flamed their team once.

Void NargacugaFeb 17, 20161 votes

That yeah I agree with, nobody truly gets banned for one game... Unless they pulled out all the stops and used every single offensive slur ever and a menagerie of death threats and such. Which could very well result in an instant permaban.

disregardableFeb 17, 20163 votes

Riot looked into it. Most people showed other toxic behaviors without chat.

BalshaFeb 17, 20161 votes

Like feeding? Well for that give them multiple 2 week suspensions. Permenant bans are very traumatic for those that invested time and money. There are other ways to punish people but closing their accounts is just ungrateful out of Riot. I literally received a 2 week suspension for telling someone who aggravated me that they suck. Now I'm on a final warning because I retaliated against a toxic player who btw had his friends with him and told them to report me, this system is harsh and has flaws.

disregardableFeb 17, 20167 votes

If they're not going to reform, there's no point in giving them a hundred chances. You're on your last leg. Stop being negative in chat or face the consequences.

Awkward CouchFeb 17, 20168 votes

At one point in time, Riot did a level 20 challenge. They took players who were banned for being toxic and if they could get a new account to level 20 without getting punished by the Tribunal (it was still active then) they would get their accounts back. Every last one of them failed. This does not give me much hope for the permabanned.

Now I, in all sincerity wish you luck after you get off your 2 week suspension. While I see where you are coming from, I just don't agree with your stance on the punishment system. Back in the days of the Tribunal, people would get multiple chat restrictions and honestly, it didn't really work well. There were constantly players who would get a chat restriction, get that lifted, and then within 3 or so games, get another chat restriction. The problem with the old system is that it was not harsh enough. In all honesty, I've seen the toxicity in league go down tremendously over the past 4 years. The reason why League got the reputation for being so toxic is because of the old system, it has gotten a lot better.

So is the new system harsh? Absolutely, but that's the point of the system in the first place. Without the idea of a permaban for what you say in League, I honestly feel that League will be just as toxic as it was in Season 2-3 and that was just an awful time to play. Does it have flaws? sure it does, but no system is going to be perfect. But this one is pretty darn close.

disregardableFeb 17, 20161 votes

I would've won that challenge. Of course, I haven't lost my account yet, but while my 2 week ban was up I got a smurf up to level 23 before I got my first chat restrict. ^^

Awkward CouchFeb 17, 20161 votes

I suppose I should correct myself, it had a 97 percent failure rate.

Troll for TrumpFeb 18, 20161 votes

Riot statistics are... really inaccurate to say the least.

darkmatchwaldoFeb 17, 20162 votes

"before I got my first chat restrict."

You got an account chat restricted in two weeks?

That's not something to be proud of.

ModWulf HelhammerFeb 17, 20164 votes

It's supposed to be traumatic. If he punishment was just some light breeze of a thing, t wouldn't do anything to deter people from acting toxic again.

Also: I doubt you're telling the whole story of how you got banned. Chat logs please!

JorenciceFeb 17, 20161 votes

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Like feeding? Well for that give them multiple 2 week suspensions. Permenant bans are very traumatic for those that invested time and money. There are other ways to punish people but closing their accounts is just ungrateful out of Riot. I literally received a 2 week suspension for telling someone who aggravated me that they suck. Now I'm on a final warning because I retaliated against a toxic player who btw had his friends with him and told them to report me, this system is harsh and has flaws.

It doesn't work that way.

It only counts 1 report per game. Doesn't matter if you were reported by all 9 people.

darkmatchwaldoFeb 17, 20162 votes

And being told "I hope your mom gets cancer" and other things similar are much more "traumatic" than getting your account banned because you were an asshole.

VicTornado24Apr 12, 20161 votes

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Riot looked into it. Most people showed other toxic behaviors without chat.

How? How can they show toxicity without saying anything?

PhenyxsFeb 17, 20163 votes

Ban. Lifetime.

Angry MonsterFeb 17, 20163 votes

i said no, cause i agree you dont have a soul

McAnnexFeb 17, 20163 votes

A bad day never gets you banned unless you make threats of personal violence. An ongoing pattern of bad days gets you punished and eventually banned for good. If people cared so much to invest money in the game, then how can they not respect the game enough to be decent human beings?

ArcticAckermanFeb 17, 20162 votes

If anything the punishments should be more strict.

AstôlfoFeb 18, 20162 votes

[...] wouldn't it be more genuine to take away their chatting privileges for an entire season?

No. They got themselves into that situation, and they dug their own grave.

Some of these people invested time and money on their accounts despite their behavior they are people too. We're talking about hundreds of dollars on skins and champions that they will lose forever due to a bad day.

Well, they should have been more careful. Again, they got themselves into that situation. The only way you even get a permanent ban is through either: A - Multiple warnings (lower-class punishments). or B - Extremely horrible behavior for an instant permanent ban.

So they deserve to lose it all.