Will Riot ever unban accounts?

Balsha··19 votes·21,411 views

We all raged at some point. cmon... People change.

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Gorillapino6 votes

My main NA account was permabanned. I started the game in October 2010. I basically had a few years where everything was great. I then started to get into ranked and became more and more toxic. I was basically infected by all the toxicity around me and my personality will make sure I give it more than I take. I played thousands of hours of the game. Ignoring my family because I didn't want to get reports for ditching a ranked game. Honestly, at one point I'm not even sure a natural disaster would have stopped me in the middle of the game. I had obsessive streaks and addiction problems and for 5 years league was my drug.

Constantly improving and trying to rise up the ranks I became a Platinum player but honestly Gold and Platinum was more toxic than Silver. There was so much going on in my life for those 5 years that it was like Fat Bastard in Austin Powers. "I can't stop eating. I eat because I'm unhappy, and I'm unhappy because I eat. It's a vicious cycle." I got stressed out because of life and play to relax. Then I'd play to relax but get stressed out. Go back to life to leave the stress of the game and start over again.

The worst part of it all is I was never able to ignore anyone. I would get right into it and go 10x harder. This was easy because I type over 110 wpm easy so I'd be throwing garbage out at them left and right. Did they deserve it? Some yes, some no. It's been 2 years since my ban. I played 5. Right now things are going pretty well in my life. Spouse and I both have good jobs and I'm in a company where I can actually envision myself being at for years to come.

I wouldn't go crazy if I played the game any more. In fact I don't. I play on EU W and I have another account on NA, albeit with less items. In hindsight if I was going to be a raging %%%% back then I wish I did it on my spare account instead of my main--yet that's the point. I wasn't being thoughtful of my behavior and actions back then. It wasn't a nefarious plan I had to ruin people's enjoyment of the game. It just was a lot of anger and stress and not being able to just enjoy the game for what it offered.

Now I don't have those problems. I would appreciate getting my account back at some point. In fact I was offered to work at Riot in customer service. I was almost a Rioter. I turned it down for my current job. I hope that they bring back some way of getting accounts back. Where they can take the time to look at how the account owner is now and give a chance--even a small one. Even one where it's one fuck up and down. That would be enough.

Deep Terror Nami4 votes

Everybody gets upset sometimes, and Riot understands that; Permabans aren't for just an occasional misstep, but continuous and/or severe behavior. It takes quite a lot to get permabanned.

Can you have a permabanned removed? It's possible, but typically Riot will not remove or reduce the punishment unless it was an error. If you are a model Summoner all except that one time you slipped up and got permabanned, you might get lucky; just submit a Support Ticket and request a manual review of your case.

h5LYF41Lam4 votes

you cant realy call bad behavior 4-5 months after your last punishment continuous.Especialy for players who play several games a day/week

Deep Terror Nami1 votes

You're right, I don't really think I would. I also don't think you have an example of anyone being on good behavior for 4-5 months of daily games then being punished for a few games without it being extreme and/or their punishment tier having decayed.

If someone doesn't drop punishment tiers for daily matches over 5 months, it's probably because their behavior was still frequently an issue, and if they get punished even if their behavior was good for that long it's probably because what they did was really bad.

h5LYF41Lam4 votes

personaly i believe the only kind of behavior that should not be acceptable in the game is being racist/sexist/homohobic/wishing people do die or get cancer/ or things like that,i dont believe calling someone a bad player or a troll or report calling or saying gg easy should be punishable.i believe this kind of behavior is part of the game.But riot has a strong punishment policy on being "rude " to your teamates because of the young players in the game and cyber bullying.

notsohotso1 votes

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You're right, I don't really think I would. I also don't think you have an example of anyone being on good behavior for 4-5 months of daily games then being punished for a few games without it being extreme and/or their punishment tier having decayed.

If someone doesn't drop punishment tiers for daily matches over 5 months, it's probably because their behavior was still frequently an issue, and if they get punished even if their behavior was good for that long it's probably because what they did was really bad.

I'm an example of this actually lmao. Played consistently for 9 months after getting a permaban without toxic behavior, have multiple rioters who told me that, and my behavior wasn't extremely "severe", all I'm told is that "your account simply did not de-escalate punishments", and they also admitted to not knowing how their own system works when it comes to this de-escalation

Claudius Ruthven2 votes

Want an example? When i got my 2 week suspension and an alert that if i missbehaved i would get perma banned i stopped playing for 5 months, then coming back to play, so i could try to change my behaviour, the only thing i did most wrong in the last 3 games i did, was saying "fucking russians" "and germans" because the most spoken language is english and people who talk their native language simply say stuff hatassing me so that they don't get detected by your report system but i just said that out of pure rage from the bad team i had, i don't rage without a reason, i state this right here, because the rest of the chat was just saying that my team did not cooperate with anyone and the support did not ward, and i am changing if you read the chat logs of my second account, i am not beeing toxic in it and however riot is not watching me change, because they think because of a statistic ran on pure toxic players, the real players thst are jolting to change and eon't want to lose their hard work are simply getting punished by it, you guys should have a system to detect if someone is changing or not, like keeping an eye out on his second account like you stated before that you implemented a system of when players reached level 20 on their second accounts without getting a well deserved report they would get their accounts back, but i did not create my second account for that, no, i did it becauae i wanted to see how it was like for newplayers playing the game, and i am starting to fit into them and beeing more friendly, i even advice them in some games with stuff and tips, you should open your eyes more and stop listening for some seconds and tey to do a change that would give the rightfull players a second chance, if you talk with me i can gladly help you guys figure out a way to give players the last chance they deserve, i don't care about the money i just want the game to be great when it once was, i already gave two ideas wich were, keep an eye out for a players second account and if they reach level 30, wich is much more dificult then reaching level 20, without getting a rightfully deserved report they would be given the warning of the 2 week suspension lift, that if they missbehaved badly they would get permabanned again and for sure, and for those players who want to change, like me, you could keep an eye on the players account for at least 5 months, but without him getting any box, ip, honour, or key fragment, and the shop would be unavailable for that llayer during 5 months, or the sexond idea was that if a player had his second chance and was a complete harrasser from before he would get his chat restricted permanently, because ir they can't complain they can't harass, they don't get reported, if they don't get reported they don't get banned, easy and simple, wich in my case i prefer the second one because i play more calmly if i don't pay attention to the chat.

Riot, you got a lot of help from the comunity if you guys just simply reach out to them, hear the true peope out and let the comunity grow more.

DrCyanide1 votes

First off, why necro the thread?

Secondly, you don't have an example.

When i got my 2 week suspension and an alert that if i missbehaved i would get perma banned i stopped playing for 5 months, then coming back to play,

You weren't playing daily for 5 months, which is what the example required. You took a 5 month break, which means you had no games to show you had improved. Time alone does not change the systems impression of you.

Deep Terror Nami2 votes

You actually have to play the game to show Riot you changed; not playing for 5 months doesn't prove you've reformed and you will come back to the same account status as you left it. If you returned and went right back to being negative then you only show Riot you are still a problem, which is why you got banned again. Unfortunately you just proved how fruitless a "Level 1-30 Challenge" to remove permabans is.

AeroWaffle3 votes

Your window of convincing Riot that you're capable of changing is anywhere between the first ban and before you get perma-banned.

If you get perma-banned, you convinced Riot that you're unlikely to change.

If you do something worthy of immediately escalating to a perma-ban, you should have known that behavior was unacceptable going into it. Riot didn't want to take the additional effort to give more chances to a player that intentionally performs immoral actions they know to be immoral.

AzureDragoon2 votes

Additionally to what Deep Terror Nami and AeroWaffle said, there's the other factor: Riot's already tried several methods of either trying to avoid handing out permabans, or giving permabanned players another chance.

In the first case, Riot tried handing out just Chat restrictions. Players who committed chat related offenses would just gain ever longer and stacking chat penalties. This, in theory, would mean that if a player wished to continue being insufferable, they would very quickly find themselves silenced. The reality however, is that those who refused to improve their behavior and learn a bit of basic manners would burn their allotted chat messages, and then just simply then turn to non-verbal offenses (such as int feeding, afk, non-participation, sabotaging teammates efforts, etc).

The other case, involved the Level 20 Challenge (Get to level 20 on a new account with no valid reports against them, and they'd get their permabanned account back). Riot did just about everything they could to give those players a chance at succeeding: Picking players who showed remorse for their actions, one-on-one chat sessions with them, carefully going over the rules, etc.

End result: 95%+ failure rate. And that was just during the challenge itself, before including the players who succeeded, got their account back, and then resumed being toxic again.

So, that's why the current system is in place.

h5LYF41Lam3 votes

the current system isnt that good either,someone who plays a lot of games and is toxic in only 5% in handled the same as somsone who plays few games and is toxic in 100%.Not to mention the multiple report system with teamates reporting you for random things. My advice? if you get chat restricted even once just tell your team in the champion select that you dont use the chat and /mute all at the start of eery game.

AzureDragoon3 votes

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the current system isnt that good either,someone who plays a lot of games and is toxic in only 5% in handled the same as somsone who plays few games and is toxic in 100%.

If, in those 5% games, player A is just as toxic (if not more so), than Player B being 100% toxic in the same or similar amount of games that Player A was toxic, what's "fair" then? What about the players that have to deal with either of the toxic players?

Not to mention the multiple report system with teamates reporting you for random things.

That's false. 1 report in a match, is equal to 9 reports in a single match, because reports simply flag a match for review. In other words, the system checks the frequency of matches with any valid reports (false reports are tossed out), and the type/frequency of offense committed.

h5LYF41Lam2 votes

by the multiple report system i mean the fact that you can report a summoner for multiple offenses,the classic"john had a bad game and fed in jacks game" jack went mad and reported him for verbal abuse unsportmanlike conduct and assisting enemy team john got ban for verbal abuse despite the fact that his teamate who reported him didnt find his messages verbaly abusive.

KORGtuners2 votes

Official Riot quote:

https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/articles/207489286

Remember that you are fully responsible for all activity on your account, and if suspensions or bans are incurred, we will not be able to modify them.

h5LYF41Lam2 votes

to all the guys linking riot's ToS on every boards post,you know we get it,lawyers wrote that stuff,it is clearly said that your account is riots property and they can alter it for any or no reason at any time,like theres no reason posting this stuff

IM A ID A IR A1 votes

hopefully not.

ItsOrval1 votes

Yeah, my account is banned for 999 more years. So in 999 years it will be unbanned :)

Magical Player1 votes

Perma-Account ban is not going to be overturned Perma-Player ban can be overturned

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