I feel really bad for new players...

Goodwill·Aug 10, 2018·7 votes·4,892 views

I took the time to make a new account just recently. 2 days ago I just got it to level 30. Through my adventures I encountered a lot of very immature players. Now these players had a good understanding basic knowledge of the game and was most likely players who were banned before for toxicity or just alt accounts(see how I did not say smurfs xd). Upon playing on this account it was just negative activity and players leaving the game and just so much hate it was ridiculous. I feel so bad for new players playing the game. In the past 2 weeks of playing on that account I have gotten **nearly 6 accounts banned or suspended.**This is actually ridiculous and I think Riot needs to start IP banning(I know this won't stop people but it will keep some from getting through) or try and figure something out. I think this is absolutely ridiculous and no wonder we have such a toxic community.

12 Comments

AeroWaffleAug 10, 20189 votes

Your experience leveling a new account is going to be different than a new player leveling a new account. You are quickly matched against other smurfs because there is a clear and obvious difference between the skill level of someone who has played this game any decent amount of time and the skill level of someone who has not.

IP banning would also cause more harm than good. As you stated, it won't stop people. An external IP address is easy to change, especially if you have a dynamic IP (just reset your router). Secondly, it causes a lot of collateral damage. An entire college dorm might share a single external IP address. If Riot were to ban the IP address because the target was one user in that dorm, everyone in the dorm would get hit by the IP address ban.

Crumpa BombAug 10, 20183 votes

AeroWaffle makes a fantastic point. For perspective I am a Wood Division level player that was getting back into the game with a friend of mine. We have only had one game in the past 2 months with a seriously toxic player. My guess is the smurfs are the source of the toxicity.

As for IP banning that strikes me as a little extreme, it would basically be like burning down a house to get rid of the rats. We've all thought about it at some point, but we eventually realize it's probably overkill and will upset a lot of random folks.

Vlada CutAug 10, 20181 votes

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Your experience leveling a new account is going to be different than a new player leveling a new account. You are quickly matched against other smurfs because there is a clear and obvious difference between the skill level of someone who has played this game any decent amount of time and the skill level of someone who has not.

IP banning would also cause more harm than good. As you stated, it won't stop people. An external IP address is easy to change, especially if you have a dynamic IP (just reset your router). Secondly, it causes a lot of collateral damage. An entire college dorm might share a single external IP address. If Riot were to ban the IP address because the target was one user in that dorm, everyone in the dorm would get hit by the IP address ban.

Wrong. When I started the game I was already introduced with toxicity at level 20 or less, and a lot of it.

MYSTlCFLOWAug 11, 20181 votes

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Your experience leveling a new account is going to be different than a new player leveling a new account. You are quickly matched against other smurfs because there is a clear and obvious difference between the skill level of someone who has played this game any decent amount of time and the skill level of someone who has not.

IP banning would also cause more harm than good. As you stated, it won't stop people. An external IP address is easy to change, especially if you have a dynamic IP (just reset your router). Secondly, it causes a lot of collateral damage. An entire college dorm might share a single external IP address. If Riot were to ban the IP address because the target was one user in that dorm, everyone in the dorm would get hit by the IP address ban.

I hear this a lot. but I'd prefer you and riot uses the word "unskilled" a master teir heroes of the storm player or dota player who comes to play league for the first time is in fact "new to league of legends" and will get placed with toxic players. because he knows how to play a moba at least a little bit.

AeroWaffleAug 11, 20181 votes

While true, there is still important differences. People who have only played other moba's will at least have a good handle on how to effectively move their character around.

But Dota 2 players will be constantly fighting the urge to save their mana and likely will get caught by surprise how fast someone can die in the early game compared to their standard game.

HotS players need to get use to lasthitting being much more important with same speed of death problem that dota players will have.

I would also find it strange that a master tier HotS player or dota player would have never tried league of legends, just like I would be surprised that a master tier league player would have never tried the other two competitors.

MYSTlCFLOWAug 11, 20181 votes

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While true, there is still important differences. People who have only played other moba's will at least have a good handle on how to effectively move their character around.

But Dota 2 players will be constantly fighting the urge to save their mana and likely will get caught by surprise how fast someone can die in the early game compared to their standard game.

HotS players need to get use to lasthitting being much more important with same speed of death problem that dota players will have.

I would also find it strange that a master tier HotS player or dota player would have never tried league of legends, just like I would be surprised that a master tier league player would have never tried the other two competitors.

you think tyler1 has tried hots or dota? XD and while there are important differences it's not big enough to place them as beginners, thereby placing them with toxic smurfs

mack9112Aug 10, 20183 votes

The system can determine you are not a acutal new player and will matchmake you accordingly.

MYSTlCFLOWAug 11, 20181 votes

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The system can determine you are not a acutal new player and will matchmake you accordingly.

not if you're from dota or hots and you're good at moba

Please End MeeAug 10, 20182 votes

It's League, they're going to run into toxicity eventually, so it's better they get use to it now then wait. Besides, the higher rank you are, the more toxic players usually are, and I know this from over 4 years of playing League.

VeralionAug 11, 20182 votes

This is what happens when you permaban people for chat offenses. They're addicted, so they make new throwaway accounts that they have absolutely no attachment to and just go to town on people. I'm willing to bet that if you long term muted them instead, they'd keep playing their mains and work to get back in good standing. People care about their accounts that they invest thousands of hours and hundreds of dollars in.

Blaustoise should just be given control over the entire PB department. He really gets it.

Just Blame JennyAug 12, 20181 votes

I entered the smurf queue pretty quickly after joining this game. It's not that I was particularly good; I was extremely bad (and still am). But it doesn't take much to compete with bronze level smurfs--which is what a lot of the toxic players on new accounts actually are.

Suffice to say, my experience was pretty bad. Lucky for me, I didn't discover [all] chat until much later, so I probably managed to miss about half of the toxicity.

GoodwillAug 13, 20181 votes

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I entered the smurf queue pretty quickly after joining this game. It's not that I was particularly good; I was extremely bad (and still am). But it doesn't take much to compete with bronze level smurfs--which is what a lot of the toxic players on new accounts actually are.

Suffice to say, my experience was pretty bad. Lucky for me, I didn't discover [all] chat until much later, so I probably managed to miss about half of the toxicity.

I actually forgot to mention I did not even have all chat enabled