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TjohnnyT··2 votes·3,564 views

What A fucking Stupid system this league of shit run? We are all fking people, we are not fking robots to shut our fking moth and let others bother us. The first time I got 15-games of not chatting in game and I accepted it, like there was anything to click other than " I UNDERSTAND," then I got 25-games of not chatting in game, and all that shit was because I was reported for my bad manners with other stupid people who had also bad manners. But I didn't say anything about this shit, because there was no fking admin to discos why I had to get that fking punishment, all there was to click on "I UNDERSTAND." After that 25-games of not chatting in game I got pissed by a fking player and I afked because of him, and what I get? A fking suspension for 14-days! Can't any stupid admin contact the player asking why the fk is that player acting in bad manners? Can't a fking admin spend 5 min of his/her time to contact that player? All these question can't be answered because league of shit's system is shit....... and fk league of legends and whoever created that stupid system of banning players from chatting all because they got reported.

Game 1 TjohnnyT: wtf TjohnnyT: shen gank me plz TjohnnyT: shen TjohnnyT: fk you TjohnnyT: sorry I didn't know you're here for nothing TjohnnyT: you shit TjohnnyT: you are a pice shit, in here TjohnnyT: ignite TjohnnyT: shen when the fk are you ganking mid ? TjohnnyT: reported TjohnnyT: 2 tanky champ and yet they were so fking scared from fighting xD TjohnnyT: omg what a stupid team this is TjohnnyT: stfu loser TjohnnyT: stay base TjohnnyT: cuz of u TjohnnyT: stupid TjohnnyT: no ganks motherfker TjohnnyT: -_- TjohnnyT: that e TjohnnyT: shen shut up your unskilled TjohnnyT: no ganks TjohnnyT: xD TjohnnyT: losers always talk big TjohnnyT: I know myself TjohnnyT: our tanky shen is so scared from helping xD TjohnnyT: he want to achive 0 death TjohnnyT: he don't know that he can stun mf ulit TjohnnyT: he is so fking unskilled TjohnnyT: when shen was with illaoi non of them got killed TjohnnyT: insted our top got killed TjohnnyT: but when I arived I helped killing one TjohnnyT: and damaging all of them TjohnnyT: shen doesn't cared about his team TjohnnyT: because he was atting him and he was in front of him TjohnnyT: his shot take the one in front of him TjohnnyT: ur unskilled so you won't know that TjohnnyT: don't worry graves TjohnnyT: it wasn't your fault TjohnnyT: no it was your fault not heling him TjohnnyT: you say that cuz he did gank your lane TjohnnyT: but what about me TjohnnyT: no help at all TjohnnyT: this shen shall be reoirted

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RiotRiot Tantram17 votes

stupid system of banning players from chatting all because they got reported.

People aren't punished because they were reported. People are punished because of what they said, if others found it offensive, and the chat was reviewed and found to be toxic in nature.

You admit to being warned numerous times with previous punishments, then were surprised when this punishment was vended. All I can do is warn you that this type of behavior is absolutely not tolerated and the next offense will result in a permaban. I hope you take this time to really think about the things you say in-game, and realize there is no reason for them.

It IS possible to get your account back into good standing. All you need to do is kick back, and have a good time playing video games. If you get offended easily, I would suggest making use of the mute feature. Playing with friends can also help to reduce frustration.

TjohnnyT

My point is that I get toxic because of other players, I played with an unskilled sup player and everyone on the team know that, but the jg didn't care, and he didn't gank bot lane, so I got mad and I waited, but because my lane went bad I couldn't handle him, so I asked him to gank and I said, "shen gank me plz." He didn't gank, so why would I not get mad and get toxic ? All that happened was because of shen not me...... so I'm ask for my account states to get back to normal, and watch me if I get toxic for few days, but not for ever because humans make mistakes and sometimes get toxic.

DrCyanide8 votes

We've all had games where the actions of the other players made no sense. If you're going to explode about it in chat though then you're going to be permabanned very shortly.

We can't control what happens to us in games or in life, but we can control how we react to them.

A little bit of fair warning, the punishment system takes 3 months of good behaviour for you to go down a punishment tier. So if you step out of line in the next three months, you will be permabanned.

TjohnnyT1 votes

So after 3 months I'll have cleared myself from how they think of me? as a toxic person.... which I'm not really toxic person in life on in other games.

DrCyanide5 votes

The punishment tiers are this:

  • 10-game chat restriction
  • 25-game chat restriction
  • 2-week ban
  • Permaban

By not being toxic for three months, you move from your next punishment being Permaban to it being anther 2-week ban. If you're not punished in the three months after that, the next punishment drops again to a 25-game chat restriction. If your not punished for three months after that, then the next punishment is a 10-game chat restriction.

That point where your next punishment would be a 10-game chat restriction is when Riot's system considers you not toxic any more, completely reformed, clean slate. That'd be sometime in October.

TjohnnyT1 votes

That make me feel that their system is unforgiving, not cool -_-................. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

ModPrandine2 votes

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That make me feel that their system is unforgiving, not cool -_-................. [zombie-brand-facepalm]

Trust me, in the past players would have to go through multiple punishments and time bans before even getting to a 2-week ban or a permaban. It may seem harsh and unforgiving, but people have to understand that Riot has put their foot down here and are saying that if they're not willing to change their behavior for the better, then they're not welcome here, hence the 4-strike rule in place.

Also, the reason it takes 3 months to drop down a punishment tier is to make sure that the offenders in question are actually making the effort to properly reform and change their behavior for the better. It also helps get the message out that they can't just stop playing the game for a week or a month or two and expect to have a clean slate right away after that; they actually have to put in the actual effort that it takes to reform. If they're not willing to do that, then this game is not for them.

Çhåryzård1 votes

Well too bad. The "well they started it!" excuse got really old after elementary school.

You need to learn to control yourself, I'm sure you are a big girl/boy. If you haven't been perma banned then you can change how you act. In fact, people have come to the forums after having a ban experience and have talked about how they really enjoy playing more after they've stopped being toxic. Riot really likes to see that.

Everyone has games with bad people in them, but dont let them drag you down with them. Learn to control yourself and if you have to, mute them. I get pissed from time to time by toxics, and most of the time I stay out of it and do my best to help my remaining teammates.

The best way to not get banned is to just say nothing. If someone is being toxic in chat, just say nothing and report at the end of the game. You get that toxic closer to being banned and you dont get yourself into trouble too.

AMYS GRAVE1 votes

My point is that I get toxic

You used too many words in your response. You should have stopped right there and thought about your life.

1 800 MID LANE1 votes

I thought there was a temp-ban before a perma? I mean, this isn't me defending anyone, but it doesn't make sense to me that his next ban would be a perm if this is only a mute.

Hyrum Graff1 votes

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I thought there was a temp-ban before a perma? I mean, this isn't me defending anyone, but it doesn't make sense to me that his next ban would be a perm if this is only a mute.

OP has a temp (2 week) ban right now.

1 800 MID LANE1 votes

Ah yes. Always read the whole post.

I just didn't want to give this guy the time of day.

Dominick Destine1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Riot Tantram,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pGK4AlJ3,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2016-01-09T00:06:36.232+0000)

People aren't punished because they were reported.

I can confirm the above quoted, I get reported roughly every 2 out of 3 games.

I am not chat restricted, and have not suffered punishment in like a year, ahuehuaehuaheuhaue.

AthenasVendetta8 votes

The system is designed and working correctly. Regardless of what others did, you were in the wrong.

Deep Terror Nami7 votes

You don't have to agree with the rules, you just have to follow them. Your next punishment (if received within 3 months before it drops a tier) will be a permanent account ban, so I'd use these 14 days to decide if harassing other players is worth your own account.

All you have to do is mute and report them. Getting into a fight with them won't get them punished any faster. Trying to get others to mass report a player is considered harassment so just puts you at risk of punishment too and probably makes them play worse not better, so don't do it. Punishment is calculated on a per match basis, not per report, so your 1 report is roughly as useful as 9; in other words, calling to report a player is not only not helpful, it's harmful.

Troll Armada3 votes

^ Yup, and at this point, now he got the punishment, people are just gonna think he's complaining because he's toxic (which he is, wow) and got punished for it.

Let this be a good lesson for you. For League and for life, when a bad policy you disagree with is discussed and debated within the community, the time to speak out about it is BEFORE it gets implemented, not after.

TjohnnyT1 votes

I had good and clear game play for more then 25 games after I got banned from chatting for 25-games, and I understood that bad behavior lead to get banned from chatting. But the problem is the first ban after all that good clear games that I had, I don't think that I deserve to be that badly punished. And if you read what I had said to shen was all because of his actions, on not helping bot lane when having an unskilled sup player.

Troll Armada1 votes

I understand 100% what you are saying. You think I don't get troll after troll after troll after troll match.

I'm still working on it myself, it's hard, but you can't respond like that

...per Riot Games policy. You see they want to have their cake and eat it too, they want to keep tolerating allt he bots and etc, whatever you want to call them in ranked, WHILE at the same time reducing "toxicity"

As they define it, toxicity is saying vulgar things in chat. They don't care about the reason or the cause, all they want is for you shut your mouth.

You must wander the rift like Jesus. while a 2-3 man premade botters /scirpters whatever basically spit in your face, set you up, yell at you for not falling for their set up, hurl insults at you, leave turret, wander jungle aimlessly looking lost, complain about lag, feed their cat, clip their nails, call for dragon only when they are sure entire enemy team is there, etc... and during all of that, the expectation from riot is that you must maintain absolute composure. You must treat them with dignity respect and have faith that your reports after the match will be taken care of.

If you do that, then their conclusion is toxicity-free gameplay will be achieved.

I'm sorry I can't sugar coat it for you.

Thund3r Ang3l6 votes

[slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

SithesisLord1 votes

Save me some of that popcorn, bruh. [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Thund3r Ang3l1 votes

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Save me some of that popcorn, bruh. [slayer-pantheon-popcorn]

Bruh, I bought for 5000 gems of PopCorn Just for this occasion. Sure I'll share some ! I'm a Team Players ! item 2050 Shen item 2050

Korillo6 votes

Gosh you don't sound like a toxic person at all...

TjohnnyT1 votes

I know how I talk to those who don't know how to talk. But all what I had said to shen was because of his actionsssss.

Colgate Gator5 votes

You're toxic af.

The system is working as intended.

Troll Armada4 votes

I don't get it.

IT'S BEEN A YEAR!!! Of non-stop communications from Riot telling you that their priority is punishing "toxicity"

So none of that got through to you? You just thought, I'm different, I can do what I want?

And they say that it's not completely automated, someone looks at it before you get the ban.

TjohnnyT1 votes

It did, and in fact for the 25 games that I was banned in I had not been toxic to anyone, also I muted must of the games. And sometimes I would say to my team, "Please mute each other so we can win." The way that I was toxic in that game doesn't show that I deserve that kind of punishment, instead they could have told me something like "hey your behavior is going back to how it was so please try to avoid getting banned again, or something like that, if you know what I mean.

Troll Armada1 votes

stop using profanity in chat. i don't know if you will get your account back, but if you start a new one, same thing, even more so because if you get reports as a new player it carries a lot more weight in my experience.

Tenzosan4 votes

The simplest response I can and will give to you is this: "Other people's actions do not justify your own negative response." Just because summoner A talks negatively and starts cussing does NOT give you the right to do so. Just because summoner B is a prick does NOT give you the right to afk or flame him. You are getting these punishments because you responded poorly to a bad situation, and from the sounds of it you are lacking some serious accountability. Your next step will be a perma-ban and I would be willing to bet it will happen the day you return.

TjohnnyT1 votes

The way you're talking now is like you're not a real human. thank you tho for your comment

shyv3 votes

i read this question wrong ignore my yes vote . ban deserved.

TrulyBland3 votes

[{quoted}](name=trying too hard,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=pGK4AlJ3,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2016-01-08T16:49:13.819+0000)

i read this question wrong ignore my yes vote . ban deserved.

Well, it's not exactly easy to read that thing right on the first try...

shyv3 votes

i think op made it confusing on purpose to get yes votes

i fell right into their trap

TjohnnyT1 votes

"their trap?" What trap? I asked a clear question, but unfortunately you didn't read it right/.....

ModKnightsKemplar3 votes

Dr. Cyanide hit it right on the head. If you act like that, you are going to get punished. It is not right to retaliate when someone is being garbage. Two wrongs don't make a right. The proper way to handle it is to stay calm, mute them if you have to, and report them after the game without saying anything. If you do that, you'll be fine. It's what most of the rest of the player base does.

TjohnnyT1 votes

Man what you said now was on my mind every single game I played with garbage people, but sometimes I can't stop myself from not telling them, who or what they really are....... I even stopped from playing ranked games because people were always not caring about how hard others where playing..... and so they troll and I can't stand that sometimes.

Hyrum Graff3 votes

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Man what you said now was on my mind every single game I played with garbage people, but sometimes I can't stop myself from not telling them, who or what they really are....... I even stopped from playing ranked games because people were always not caring about how hard others where playing..... and so they troll and I can't stand that sometimes.

If you can't stop yourself, then you're not welcome in this community, and nobody will cry when you get a permaban in two weeks. If you can figure out how to stop yourself, then we'd love for you to keep playing with us.

For me personally, when I get mad about things in the game, I say them out loud instead of writing them in chat. That way, I get to bitch about my teammates, and I don't risk getting banned.

ModKnightsKemplar2 votes

Take frequent breaks. If you feel yourself start to take things too seriously, just do something else for awhile. You don't have to keep playing if it's going to cost you the account. Always remember that.

Amber Lynn2 votes

So just to be clear, you..you are saying this chat ban was unwarranted? The one posted there? Or you feel like another person who's chat we cant see should be banned too?

TjohnnyT

I got toxic because of the other player's behavior, and I couldn't stand him. So my point is that I don't deserve to be banned from chatting inside of the game and outside for 14-days.

Amber Lynn2 votes

Wouldn't it just be better to give consequences to both players?

Othetwse it sends the message that any behavior is acceptable if it is in retaliation.

Top Lane Terry2 votes

Are you blind? Look what you said. The system worked well. Another toxic player, down the drain.

Mecha KhaZix1 votes

Should this system of banning people from chatting because of a report from other players stop or not?

Yeah, they should stop.

They should move to just banning people like you from the game outright. #/s

ModPrandine1 votes

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Yeah, they should stop.

They should move to just banning people like you from the game outright. /s

How do you expect people to reform if you don't give them the chance to do so first? Riot's policy is Reform first, Remove second. In other words, they want to try to get people to understand why the behavior that got them punished in the first place is wrong, and if they still refuse to listen to reason and change, well then that's when Riot will remove them from the game permanently, as there's no place in any community for someone who would rather be a jerk than be respectful.

TjohnnyT1 votes

I agree that I deserve the first 2 punishment and I had good behavior for few weeks, but humans can't handle their behavior forever, and I was so mad at shen and I asked him but he did nothing. So even if I was reported for my bad behavior I should have not been punished unless I had several reports.

ModPrandine1 votes

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I agree that I deserve the first 2 punishment and I had good behavior for few weeks, but humans can't handle their behavior forever, and I was so mad at shen and I asked him but he did nothing. So even if I was reported for my bad behavior I should have not been punished unless I had several reports.

No one's expecting perfection, and that's exactly why the system has built-in leniency for situations like off days and bad games. However, the more and more you act up the more and more leniency you use up until it gets to the point where you don't have any leniency left. Also, it's okay to be mad and upset, but lashing out the way that you did in the chat logs is the wrong way to go about doing it. If you need to rage then do so at the computer screen rather than in chat. You also did get valid reported several times across multiple games, hence why you were punished.

From Mini KB: Chat Restrictions:

"How did they determine that I was toxic?"

As part of the development of Team Builder, Team PB&J built "sophisticated language models to determine the quality of communication. (http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/23ky31/why_is_the_lol_community_so_lazy_that_they_dont/cgyahjq)" Lyte has mentioned on several occasions that they could - and probably would - use those models to detect toxic chat. Given Lyte's penchant for accuracy, it seems likely that the detection system was thoroughly vetted before release.

From WookieeCookie, (link (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=47153866#post47153866))

The chat restrictions are not based off of the last game you played but rather an investigation of a series of games you've been reported in. Just a few of the things we look at: frequency of games played, frequency of reports received, # of unique players reporting you, types of reports received and so on.

From Lyte: (link (http://forums.na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=47282287#post47282287))

Secondly, we have a system that's been analyzing millions of chat logs, and become quite good at detecting whether a conversation in a game is negative or positive. I presented some of this work at the previous Game Developer's Conference. It's an interesting system because the more chat logs you feed the system, the more accurate it becomes at determining whether a player communicates more positively or negatively than the average player in League of Legends.

Keep in mind that Riot will NEVER release details about this detection system, as people would use it to skirt the system.

Also from Mini KB: Chat Restrictions:

How do people get chat restrictions after a game where they don't talk or only call timers? Are those people lying?

Asked on Reddit by Ryzolryzol (link (http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/27zq5t/chat_restriction_system_based_on_number_of_bans/ci65z9u))

Chat restrictions are handed out after the system and Player Support detect a pattern of negative behavior, so it's rarely, rarely for the behaviors you exhibited in your immediate last game. It could be the last 10-20 games, last 40 games, depends on the severity of the behaviors.

From the Tribunal FAQ:

That player in my game was far worse than me. Why am I banned??? I'll keep this one simple: those other players in your game that you thought were worse are probably also banned. Nearly 100% of the time, those players were banned even before you were. If someone is being toxic, just report them and move on.

We strongly believe that it is not OK to retaliate. If a player refuses to cooperate and says something negative, then players should ignore the player and report them after the game. Players can ignore or mute players by pressing the “Mute” button on the Scoreboard [when you hit TAB] in the game.

If a player retaliates and says something bad back, then the two of you have made a negative experience for potentially the other 8 players in the game. Rarely do teams start working together better when players begin fighting back—great games only happen when players cooperate and don’t make the issues even worse by fighting back and forth.

LilQuacker1 votes

your the idiot that is cusing out a jg for not ganking just calm your tits kid and try to dodge the system,reason you got banned was because you said Reported

Çhåryzård1 votes

I LOVE when people come here complaining and saying they shouldn't have been banned, and then they post the chat logs. It's great. One of my favorite things to come look at in the forums.

It's amazing how people have no problem posting their chat logs ad feel all confident that they did nothing wrong when the chat logs are full of toxicity.

If you are THAT stupid and that toxic, the Tribunal is doing its job

CrafterMaster0771 votes

I was wondering if I would get perma banned if I left from one bot game summoner's rift half way done, another bot game summoner's rift almost done and one normal blind pick game twisted treeline half way done. This was over the span of four months. Is there any way that you can know how close you are to getting perma banned???

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