Dodge Queue should be debatable

FlatEarth Jacois·Feb 2, 2019·3 votes·2,240 views

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Playing ranked with Top selecting Jhin. I ban Jhin, he picks Draven. I dodge, I lose LP, I have to endure a wait timer, AND I can't report him.

teammate selects Kai'Sa jungle, I say I'll dodge if they pick her, they pick her, I dodge, I lose LP, I have to endure a wait timer, AND I can't report him.

These people should be playing Normals. An official dodge choice should be available with a comment to explain why you did. Otherwise, the only option is to play the game, waste 30-40 minutes, lose MORE LP, then report. This is the ONLY way to punish these players currently, and it's not cool.

Normals? Hey, play whatever the heck you want. In ranked? Give me a break. Solo Queue ain't LCS, but most solo queue players IN RANKED, pay attention to the LCS and expect a certain respect towards champion select. Normals are for fun, bs, rogue nonsense, same as Flexed when coordinating a rogue strat, but ranked isn't for that, and those who don't want to play with fancy rogue picks shouldn't be punished, imo.

Thanks for listening. :)

26 Comments

zPOOPzFeb 2, 20195 votes

so you banned someone's intent on purpose, be a dick about it, and you wanted to report him? LMFAO

FlatEarth JacoisFeb 2, 20191 votes

So you've never seen someone pick a legit BAD champion for their role with the intention of getting someone else to dodge for them? You ain't playin' enough.

zPOOPzFeb 2, 20193 votes

did he told you to dodge or did he said he will int/troll?

FlatEarth JacoisFeb 2, 20191 votes

Why do you think I would answer your question when you didn't answer mine? :/

zPOOPzFeb 2, 20196 votes

There is no such thing as "legit BAD champion for their role". I have played since Season beginning of Season 3 and have all Victorious skins since Season 4 (I suck in Season 3). "Meta" come and go and change all the time. People make "non-(current)-meta" work all the time. I did't get all worked up over someone who picked Soraka top in my game last season. He didn't lose his lane. He was very helpful mid and late game. We won as a team. I have played past many, many, many, many updates, champion rework, all kind of meta (did not like the whole bruiser bot lane at beginning of last season much though). I have seen all kind of trolls and all kind of non-meta worked and not worked since Season 3. I do not care or get all fussy over any pick in any lane.

rujitraFeb 2, 20192 votes

Why do you get to decide what they play? Who made you the League God?

GatekeeperTDSFeb 2, 20195 votes

You are not the arbiter of who gets to play what in RANKED just because it's RANKED. OMG RANKED.

AND I can't report him

Damn right you can't. Riot does not enforce a meta. People cannot be banned for doing things that you don't agree with as long as they play to win.

FlatEarth JacoisFeb 2, 20191 votes

Riot doesn't enforce a meta?! wtf you talkin' about? You livin' under a rock? What happened to bruisers botlane from last year, what happened to funnel, what happened to junglers with support items, what happened to you not paying attention and just eating up the words without viewing the actions? come on man, "riot does not enforce a meta"?! Wake the f*ck up.

nuclearwarpotatoFeb 2, 20192 votes

Yea you completely missed what he was trying to say. Yes OF COURSE riot makes balance changes that affect the meta. The DO NOT say "you have to play more bot or you will be punished with a ban because we want this meta" as his person was trying to say.

FlatEarth JacoisFeb 2, 20191 votes

Thanks for telling me what someone else meant when they didn't say that.

Why you here defending this guy? Make your own point, with your own comment, don't leach and dogpile on this one. Jesus....

GatekeeperTDSFeb 2, 20192 votes

Mr. Radioactive Potato knows exactly what I was saying - Riot isn't going to punish anyone for playing any champion they want in any role.

nuclearwarpotatoFeb 2, 20191 votes

No worries you seemed to be struggling quite a lot on such a simple point.

Silent GravityFeb 2, 20192 votes

How would you react to AP support Jarvin?

FlatEarth JacoisFeb 2, 20191 votes

I've seen some vid's on it, seems legit. If your argument is that there's an equal number of troll picks that compete on the same level as legit picks, and that most solo queue'ing troll pickers win games, then I would disagree. Is that your point? Or are you just defending the exceptions to be devil's advocate?

Imperial PandaaFeb 2, 20192 votes

That flag fucking hurts when it hits.

Kei143Feb 2, 20192 votes

So ... Why do you need to dodge?

FlatEarth JacoisFeb 2, 20191 votes

I've played enough ranked to know Jhin top (or Draven top), is likely to feed and we'll lose.

Do you even play ranked? Is this news to you?

Kei143Feb 2, 20192 votes

I've played enough rank to know that my team will feed. I've also played enough ranked games to know that people suck at the macro game and are likely to throw the game.

Your point?

Off HiatusFeb 2, 20192 votes

Somehow you act surprised and hurt that people are going to pick things like Kaisa jungle in Iron/Bronze games and thinking they should be punished for that and yet you see nothing wrong with yourself trying to play a Blue Build Ezreal variation in those same games.

Frankly? At least for ranked, there should be some champions that are just straight up unselectable.

The irony is too much.

FlatEarth JacoisFeb 2, 20191 votes

Really, it's less that, "they should be punished", and more, "I shouldn't be punished for wanting to dodge.".

Get the difference?

Awf MetaFeb 2, 20192 votes

Everyone pointing fingers at each other when it's Riots fault for making bad champions.

HarrowïngFeb 2, 20192 votes

It all depends. I've seen Leona jungle do some serious work. Hell, Alistar jungle was a thing before. Just because it's not a meta pick doesn't mean it's a bad one. I'd rather someone play something troll, but be good at it, rather than someone pick a meta champ and not know what they are doing. Of course it isn't all the time. I've had a Kayle support go 0/10 and wonder how the enemy adc got so fed. You aren't in control of who plays what. Only you make the choice for yourself.

AgamFeb 2, 20191 votes

I agree. Why is everyone try to break the meta? Also, it doesn't help when smurfs play off roles and characters because that account is practice for them while affect others main account.

FlatEarth JacoisFeb 2, 20191 votes

I don't know much about the Smurf aspect, but I've certainly seen some ridiculous picks, like Yasuo support, go 17/2, so that might be an example of what you're talking about.

Frankly? At least for ranked, there should be some champions that are just straight up unselectable. If Ranked isn't meant to be, "LCS-like serious", play, then why bother having it?