Advice for Bronze Players

quiettones··5 votes·4,774 views

IF you're stuck in bronze and keep getting wrecked, don't fret, I'm here to help.

Who am I? I'm a teacher. I know how to analyze something and learn from it. I'm not a pro player, I'm not a youtuber, I don't play this game for money. I've been stuck in bronze II - I for a while because I don't play characters that carry, but those I find fun. I mess up and throw some times, but I usually end with positive KDA. TwistedFate and Ahri can carry if you synergize with teammates, but I've had horrible luck doing that in bronze, and I've come to understand why. Here is a series of mistakes that I see constantly, how they drag you down and how to fix them:

1. Playing for Outplays, or Playing with your EGO: If you've ever played a pickup game of soccer or B-ball, you know what this is. People try to dribble the entire team, they lose the ball and get dunked on. Their egos make them reckless. They don't take calculated risks, because they're not calculating--they're not thinking. They dive turrets and jump into fights they have no business being in because they want a "sick outplay LOLOL". They feed, they lose. Their egos place them in dumb situations for no reason.

Giving away a free kill is the quickest way to incur the wrath of your teammates which makes the whole experience a drag for everyone.

Solution: Play objectives. It's that's simple. You don't need to get 90 kills to be a great player. You can still lose if the rest of your team isn't doing well. You need objectives. Ganks _Don't _have to equal kills. Pushing enemies out of lane and attacking the turret for a few seconds still puts the team ahead. Gank for that.

1.2: Remember this is a team game. What happens to your teammates affects you. Don't expect your team to handle lanes. Help them.

Solution: +Jungle: Even if mates are not getting ganked, help them. You depend on them doing well to win, so HELP THEM do well. Get camps after you gank if the enemy is near. So many junglers lose free meals because they don't take opportunities when they're there.

+Mid: Communicate with bot/top/jungle to plan ganks. Don't stay mid the entire game. Look at the map!

+Bot: If you need help, ping. If no help comes, stop pinging and communicate with supp to figure out a strategy.

+Top: If you're getting ganked with no counter-ganks from allied jungle, stop pushing.

+ALL lanes: If you get a ping that enemies are coming, get out, back and push again. No shame in playing safe if it helps the team.

2. Not thinking about what what's happening: Everyone thinks they know best. I'm guilty of this. But if I'm constantly pushing and dying to ganks...I should stop pushing and try something else. But not many people do this. They push and die, push and die, until they can't push anymore because they're so weak.

If someone is running toward a bush out of lane and they're got full health, it's a bait. Stop chasing. Think.

Solution: Stop and think before you tilt. If you've been ganked twice, it's time to stop pushing. Freeze the lane if possible, ward better, do SOMETHING DIFFERENT so that you can get out there without dying. Even if you think the enemy needs one....more...auto...to...die...STOP. Don't chase and dive and die. Pressure the turret for a minute and get out. Back, return to lane and push them out again. Constantly dying and being 200 CS behind are equally frustrating and equally hurtful for the enemy. Use that to your advantage.

If your mid pings "enemy missing", go back to your turret, let the lane push out, and waste the enemy's time. Your midlaner gets CS, you stay alive. It's a win-win. Even if the turret needs....one....more...aa. STOP, go back, get it next time.

Communicate with your jungle or support/ADC about what you expect from the game. Children are difficult to work with (I'm a teacher, I know), but it might help if they're mature enough.

If you're pushed to your turret and you're almost dead, attacking will get you killed and the enemy will still destroy the turret. Back, and think about how to stop them from advancing without dying in the process.

3. Not looking at the map: I don't know remember which youtuber talked about this, but it helps: Peek at your minimap every time you kill a minion. If there are no minions, try every 10 seconds. People miss so many chances to gank or save teammates because they're hyper-focused on their lane. That's all. Use the map.

4. Flaming: If your teammates have fed so much that you're getting steamrolled, flaming is not going to turn the game around.

Solution: Drop your ego and forfeit the match. Your time is precious, so treat it with respect. ** Background information:** I started playing ranked in Season 8. I started in Silver V and dropped all the way to Bronze V in subsequent games. There I stayed for a very long time until I put the above advice into practice.

TL;DR: Stop diving; help your teammates, they affect your game; play as a team, not lone wolves; constantly look at the map; forfeit if it's clear you're going to lose.

13 Comments

hi ìm groot5 votes

Ummm... shouldn't you learn before you teach? Why would someone go to someone stuck in bronze... to learn how to not be stuck in bronze?

quiettones2 votes

I never said this would get you out of bronze, although it probably will. But after seeing people go 0/20/6 at 20 minutes a million times, I thought I could shed some light on the issues that keep bronze players (and their unlucky teams) down.

You can learn from other people's mistakes or observations even if you're on the same rung on the ladder. Thinking that someone can't teach you anything because they're not ahead of you on the ladder is poor form. Everyone you meet has something to teach you, even if you're better off than they are.

You mentioned this in a recent discussion:

hi ìm groot (NA) about an hour ago in > Gold 2 but facing high plat players.

Ya IDK, I lost a whole bunch of games from getting gold 3 jg's when I was plat 3, and they just fed. Now im plat 4 XD. They didnt have high win rates though.

You're sort of proving my point there. People just feed because they don't think, or don't look at the map, etc. Hence, they drag you down or make it harder to climb, no matter the rank.

hi ìm groot1 votes

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I never said this would get you out of bronze, although it probably will. But after seeing people go 0/20/6 at 20 minutes a million times, I thought I could shed some light on the issues that keep bronze players (and their unlucky teams) down.

You can learn from other people's mistakes or observations even if you're on the same rung on the ladder. Thinking that someone can't teach you anything because they're not ahead of you on the ladder is poor form. Everyone you meet has something to teach you, even if you're better off than they are.

You mentioned this in a recent discussion:

You're sort of proving my point there. People just feed because they don't think, or don't look at the map, etc. Hence, they drag you down or make it harder to climb, no matter the rank.

Ya they do, but that wasn't because they didnt have some basic tenate that would cause them to feed in a game of all mid golds, it was because they were being out played and out pressured by mid plat jg's.

But like some of your points are alot of things that keep people IN bronze, I.E this is a team game. There might be 4 people on your team, but its fkin damn near impossible to get out of bronze trying to play around them because of their inconsistent playstyles. One thing I tell anyone trying to get out of low elo is to use playstyles that require as little from your teammates as possible.

Things that cause people to feed in games that are above their level of experience are way to complicated to put in a guide tbh, unless your guide is literally to tell people to play passively every game and hope they get lucky and climb somehow.

quiettones1 votes

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Ya they do, but that wasn't because they didnt have some basic tenate that would cause them to feed in a game of all mid golds, it was because they were being out played and out pressured by mid plat jg's.

But like some of your points are alot of things that keep people IN bronze, I.E this is a team game. There might be 4 people on your team, but its fkin damn near impossible to get out of bronze trying to play around them because of their inconsistent playstyles. One thing I tell anyone trying to get out of low elo is to use playstyles that require as little from your teammates as possible.

Things that cause people to feed in games that are above their level of experience are way to complicated to put in a guide tbh, unless your guide is literally to tell people to play passively every game and hope they get lucky and climb somehow.

I understand your point. I'm not trying to tell people to be passive. But when you ping that an enemy is headed their way five times, then they triple feed because they HAD to get that turret (except they didn't), and it happens multiple times....then it becomes a problem.

I understand that relying on randoms is folly. But what I tried to provide is a series of simple steps that hopefully prevents the team from going 15-2 against at the 10 minute mark. Playing champs that carry is obviously a better strategy, but I see people playing yi (who carries at this point in S8) but not doing so because they are diving, trying to 1v4 because they're late to a gank, or allowing lanes to get ganked because people should "handle their lanes".

Maybe I'm asking too much of people.

U4051203 votes

dude do everyone a favor and delete this thread lol you're bronze 2 with 700 games with 70 more loses than wins

Liquid Poro 2 votes

Read the whole thread.

ModPeriscope1 votes

It's a bronze player commenting on bronze ranked behavior and improvement. Ideally, you'd want someone who's gotten out of bronze to discuss this behavior. At any rate, he possesses the experience that can contribute and help players when they are in bronze.

Liquid Poro 1 votes

Congrats on being a moderator!

ModPeriscope1 votes

Thanks!

Mitzillfi2 votes

AS A PLAYER WHO CLIMBED OUT OF BROnze I would disagree with this post LEAGUE OF LEGENDS is not a team game it's a 1v9 ur teammates are your enemies /fullmute all in the start of the game because u probably don't want advice from bronze teammates you team isn't the only one feeding enemy is also feeding u just have to take advantage of them here is the list of broken champs in bronze (yi trynd Yorick jax) as long as u can farm u can solo carry every game I am only silver feel free to prove me wrong cause it would help me improve

Demonblade Talon2 votes

Here's my advice as a plat 1 player whom was in his diamond promos last week. Dear Bronze players, Get the less garbage team. Bronze-Silver you will get nothing but bad players so just get lucky. You'll eventually get the less garbage teams multiple times which you will climb. If you think you're going on a lose streak, QUIT FOR A WHILE.

Werdx2 votes

Every famous streamer,youtuber and their grandmothers insult Bronze players.Not only them,but rest of the LOL community as well,and most of the times same those people who are stuck in bronze,insult bronze players.

Just look at some people who advocate against toxicity(people who play LOL for years,24/7),how they behave towards bronze players,how they insult them,and being toxic towards them at the same time,not in game,but on their stream,bronze this bronze that...

People judge other people's characters and personalities based on their ranks,which is in this case 'bronze = retard in real life'

There's massive pressure on bronze players,and believe me same those streamers who are challengers,would lose 1 vs 1 vs some bronze players,they keep laughing at for years now.

WubbaLubbaDubDab1 votes

bronze players,just play ww max w camp every lane with your speed and congrats u won.

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